Sans the Skeleton goes up against a Robot Cat from the future

[Anomalous_N_I_W_D_E]

Stop quoting text walls. Also, does this match reflect the recent undertale downgrade?

THE RECENT WHAT NOW?

 

[ApiesDeathbyLazors]

Yeah, pretty big one. I haven't been really following it so I dunno if it's gone through yet or not.

 

[Anomalous_N_I_W_D_E]

I can't exactly find a link, but it was an episode that I once watched. It was about Suneo who borrowed a battery to Doraemon that can control a gigantic gun that would instantly take down anyone that threatens him while he can do it willingly as well. Doraemon got shit multiple times by it.

And another durability feat I remembered for Doraemon was during the first volume of the Doraemon manga. One of the chapters in there was about him and Nobita travelling back in time to meet Nobita's ancestor. Doraemon gets shot by a stray arrow which completely skewered his head. He didn't show any signs of getting hurt or anything whatsoever. What he did was remove it afterwards without it leaving any damage on his head.

I can have a link for the latter feat.

http://englishmangakid.blogspot.com/2016/01/doremon-18-chin-up-to-ancestor.html?m=1

The feat is on pages 5 and 6(or 4 and 5, if the title page isn't included).

I mean I might need to look for it then, As for the arrow part that does seem to be not as impressive as the wall feats introduced thus far, maybe its a pain tolerance thing.

 

[Anomalous_N_I_W_D_E]

Yeah, pretty big one. I haven't been really following it so I dunno if it's gone through yet or not.

Oh man I can't bare to see U.T Get nerfed this horribly though.

 

[Buttersamuri]

It has not.

 

[Anomalous_N_I_W_D_E]

It has not.

What's exact context of the "Downgrade."?

Also what do you think of this? It could be possible that Sans would actually blitz first.

 

[Buttersamuri]

Supersonic+ sans is a No No. as well as other speeds (as it's tier jumping from subsonic+). lower tier monsters losing scaling and need their own feats. Undynes feat being an outlier. And I'm arguing Sans durability doesn't scale flat. As well, other contexts like no more soul destruction haxs for certain monsters. Frisk not scaling and being below average human. And murderous intent will downright force monsters into below average human, which is why they get one shot

That's what I recall anyway.

 

[The_Web_Adventurer]

I mean I might need to look for it then, As for the arrow part that does seem to be not as impressive as the wall feats introduced thus far, maybe its a pain tolerance thing.

Nobita's durability is 9-B, believe it or not, based on his feats(he gets beaten up by Gian, bitten by a dog, and whacked by a car at the same day and still recovers in less than a day.) and Doraemon is superior than him physically. Won't exactly upgrade Doraemon's durability to 9-A, but maybe around At least 9-B, possibly higher. But IIRC there are feats Doraemon has that could put him around 9-A, and all I have to do is to find them again.

 

[Anomalous_N_I_W_D_E]

Nobita's durability is 9-B, believe it or not, based on his feats(he gets beaten up by Gian, bitten by a dog, and whacked by a car at the same day and still recovers in less than a day.) and Doraemon is superior than him physically. Won't exactly upgrade Doraemon's durability to 9-A, but maybe around At least 9-B, possibly higher. But IIRC there are feats Doraemon has that could put him around 9-A, and all I have to do is to find them again.

I mean surviving presumably huge impacted holes on the ground and causing building disruptions is pretty up there on small building NO a great urban range ordeal man, very impressive stuff for an innocent looking 4 foot something Robot Cat.

We also need to later find supporting speed for Doraemon as without enhancements he lacks heavily in that, has he by any chance at least had reactions to fast projectiles before like say: Bullets, Missiles, Lightning... Lasers? Knowing the setting he takes place in I shouldn't find it all to hard to believe that he did something like that at one point in the series.

 

[Anomalous_N_I_W_D_E]

Supersonic+ sans is a No No. as well as other speeds (as it's tier jumping from subsonic+). lower tier monsters losing scaling and need their own feats. Undynes feat being an outlier. And I'm arguing Sans durability doesn't scale flat. As well, other contexts like no more soul destruction haxs for certain monsters. Frisk not scaling and being below average human. And murderous intent will downright force monsters into below average human, which is why they get one shot
That's what I recall anyway.

a few I actually agree with... But most of these sound like horrendous down play no disrespect.

 

[Buttersamuri]

You would have to go to the thread yourself to see it. I get where it comes from. Even the below average thing I see the logic in it. There is a lot more to it then what I said. I just summarized it. I definitely never agreed to supersonic+ sans. And I am one still arguing Sans durability no scale to the small building. But the other stuff you'd need to read up yourself

 

[Threemagi]

So this thread is main culprit why Doraemon page has lot of views then.

Sans FRA. No prep Doraemon is dead Doraemon.

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

You would have to go to the thread yourself to see it. I get where it comes from. Even the below average thing I see the logic in it. There is a lot more to it then what I said. I just summarized it. I definitely never agreed to supersonic+ sans. And I am one still arguing Sans durability no scale to the small building. But the other stuff you'd need to read up yourself

I also don't think anyone had any rebuttals to my point that Sans is too game play reliant to use for vsbattles.

Several attacks and powers he uses abuse game mechanics that can't be verse equalized after all.

 

[Buttersamuri]

Well. For Vs Threads. A page, well. We have worse characters who have pages. Even Gaster got one.

But yea. Attacking during a players turn, His special attack (I despite seeing people try and use that). Ect. They shouldn't be applied to any other fight. But hasn't been applied or accepted yet. That thread went dead a bit ago

 

[The_Web_Adventurer]

What? Like, are we serious? Doraemon is shit in 1 to 1 confrontations with no prep.

He doesn't just insta-summon anything he wants, and there were plot points and scenes that relief on the fact that he needed time to díj a gadget he was looking for.

Getting smashed to the ground and pierced with attacks that are 9-A way out speeds Doraemon fishing for gadgets in his pouch.

Actually, I remembered the fact that Doraemon taking time to dig for his gadgets only occurs in the anime/cartoons, and the times this happens is when he panics or doesn't specifically know what item he's looking for. In the manga, however, Doraemon can just simply take out the item that he wants to take out immediately. This is even proven further when Nobita in the manga got ahold of Doraemon's spare pocket.

 

[Anomalous_N_I_W_D_E]

Actually, I remembered the fact that Doraemon taking time to dig for his gadgets only occurs in the anime/cartoons, and the times this happens is when he panics or doesn't specifically know what item he's looking for. In the manga, however, Doraemon can just simply take out the item that he wants to take out immediately. This is even proven further when Nobita in the manga got ahold of Doraemon's spare pocket.

Given this is probably a composite of the blue cat then yeah this would apply.

 

[Anomalous_N_I_W_D_E]

So this thread is main culprit why Doraemon page has lot of views then.
Sans FRA. No prep Doraemon is dead Doraemon.

Not yet, apparently the verse is getting downgraded.

 

[Threemagi]

Not yet, apparently the verse is getting downgraded.

Which verse got downgraded?

And if Dora can really pull anything with pinpoint precision, I imagine he'd pull Time Stop watch then use Earth destruction bomb to destroy whole Milky Way galaxy while Doraemon himself flee to Mirror World or to Andromeda Nebula.

https://ja.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/ドラえもんのひみつ道具_(ち)#地球はかいばくだん :

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A tool taken out by Doraemon who became panic after seeing the rat. It was never actually used, but he said the words that Doraemon could "blow the Milky Way Galaxy" when this tool was put out. The official site [4] describes it as "a bomb with enough power to destroy everything in the galaxy."

 

[GalacticIron]

Undertale is getting downgraded, waiting for results is the main reason i stopped bumping my thread of Sans vs Kowalski.

 

[The_Web_Adventurer]

Given this is probably a composite of the blue cat then yeah this would apply.

Even if the anime weakness is included, Doraemon wouldn't exactly be taking time to dig out the gadget that he wants to get. And it usually takes a second or even less for him to do it(given they are bloodlusted, it's likely faster). But then we also have to remember both of them are bloodlusted. It's very likely that Sans would hit him first but it won't be a guaranteed kill. Once Doraemon succeeds taking out a gadget from his pocket Sans is doomed. Doraemon 6/10 due to Sans' speed.

But then Ik it's composite alright, except I don't exactly agree with including Doraemon's weakness. The manga is the main canon and I don't exactly agree with it. When two feats from the same character are contradicting each other there are only two options to solve the problem:

1. If both are canon, the stronger feat should only be considered. 2. If one is canon and the other isn't, the latter feat should be ignored if it either: does not make the character more powerful; or if it weakens them.

And by this logic, his weakness from the anime should be ignored since the manga is the main canon. I know it doesn't matter much, but it just bothers me.

I apologize for ranting. I'm not quite used to vs battles yet.

 

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