A funny skeleton fights a depressed bridgeman

[PapiSavitar5025]

Kaladin Stormblessed

Sans the Skeleton

This is Kaladin at the end of Oathbringer, so he is given his Shardblade. This fight will take place in the Final Corridor.

Both are in-character.

Speed is equalized.

Kaladin will have about 10 minutes worth of Stormlight (which is how long Sans' fight lasts without healing).
Both fighters will start at fifteen feet away from each other.

Let's begin...

 

[ShionAH]

Sans one shots and hax stomps close this

 

[Samael_010]

Sans for the reason above me

 

[LephyrTheRevanchist]

How fast can Kaladin heal soul damage? That's the only thing that makes this not a stomp, pretty much.

 

[ShionAH]

How fast can Kaladin heal soul damage? That's the only thing that makes this not a stomp, pretty much.

No. Sans is 9-A with TK

 

[ShionAH]

How fast can Kaladin heal soul damage? That's the only thing that makes this not a stomp, pretty much.

Plus sans is bloodlusted so he time stops and destroys him.

 

[LephyrTheRevanchist]

No. Sans is 9-A with TK

Good for him. He ain't killing someone that can regen soul and physical damage at Low-Mid if he doesn't decapitate him, depending on how fast Kaladin regens.

 

[LephyrTheRevanchist]

Although, how would speed equal rules apply here, given that Kaladin has effectively two different speeds? He normally is athletic human, using stormlight to augment his reactions.

 

[PapiSavitar5025]

How fast can Kaladin heal soul damage? That's the only thing that makes this not a stomp, pretty much.

He can heal it pretty much instantly, but it takes a lot of Stormlight.
Not to mention he can actually block/parry Sans' bones and Gaster Blasters with Syl, turning her into either a sword, spear, or shield.

 

[PapiSavitar5025]

Although, how would speed equal rules apply here, given that Kaladin has effectively two different speeds? He normally is athletic human, using stormlight to augment his reactions.

I'm honestly not sure. I'd imagine his physicals would be equal to Sans', and he could simply get faster via Lashings.

 

[ShionAH]

Good for him. He ain't killing someone that can regen soul and physical damage at Low-Mid if he doesn't decapitate him, depending on how fast Kaladin regens.

9-A atomizes 9-B as far as I know. Doesnt matter as he cant do anything to time stop.

 

[PapiSavitar5025]

9-A atomizes 9-B as far as I know. Doesnt matter as he cant do anything to time stop.

He's only 9-A with Telekinesis; his bones and Gaster Blasters are not piercing his Shardweapons anytime soon.

 

[PapiSavitar5025]

9-A atomizes 9-B as far as I know. Doesnt matter as he cant do anything to time stop.

Sans doesn't even use time stop when he's bloodlusted, or do we not consider Sans at the end of the Genocide Route not to be bloodlusted?

 

[ShionAH]

Sans doesn't even use time stop when he's bloodlusted, or do we not consider Sans at the end of the Genocide Route not to be bloodlusted?

Sans was basically bloodlusted but not fully since he obviously still had a personality. In threads when you bloodlust someone they forgot everything they know and just go angy mode.

He's only 9-A with Telekinesis; his bones and Gaster Blasters are not piercing his Shardweapons anytime soon.

He has dura neg on everything so it will work. Plus sans downscales to 99 600 000 joules while he seems to scale to 15 000 joules.
Sans has like 6640x advantage he atomizes and wins

 

[ShionAH]

But since you guys think somehow his Low-Mid is enough to not make it a stomp then I vote Sans even if you remove his bloodlust, though sans doesnt damage you in his first attack so I don't know how it will work in non bloodlusted case

 

[ShionAH]

Good for him. He ain't killing someone that can regen soul and physical damage at Low-Mid

I don't think Low-Mid can save you from literally being torn into pieces

 

[LephyrTheRevanchist]

He has dura neg on everything so it will work.

His shield blocks dura neg attacks. Sans' only option is TK, pretty much.

 

[ShionAH]

His shield blocks dura neg attacks. Sans' only option is TK, pretty much.

Alright Sans FRA. He is bloodlusted so he can just use his TK to atomize his soul

 

[Adem_Warlock69]

He's only 9-A with Telekinesis; his bones and Gaster Blasters are not piercing his Shardweapons anytime soon.

That's before his rework. All of Sans' magic is 9-A now

 

[ShionAH]

That's before his rework. All of Sans' magic is 9-A now

Where?? I wanna see this shii

 

[LephyrTheRevanchist]

Alright Sans FRA. He is bloodlusted so he can just use his TK to atomize his soul

Sans only uses TK to slam peeps around. Again, depends how fast Kaladin regens.

 

[Adem_Warlock69]

Where?? I wanna see this shii

https://vsbattles.com/threads/somewhat-large-ish-sans-crt.151847/

The remade profile has "9-A with Magic" instead of the old "9-A with Telekinesis"

 

[ShionAH]

Sans only uses TK to slam peeps around. Again, depends how fast Kaladin regens.

Sans will be Bloodlusted

Plus its still a 9-A Telekinesis. No Kaladin cannot regen from a pieces thats not how Low-Mid works. He needs High-Mid

 

[LephyrTheRevanchist]

I wanna note: If Sans speed gets equalized to Kaladin's athletic, then indeed, Sans can only beat him after a prolonged encounter with TK, since his blasts and bones stuff would be equalized to athletic, when Kaladin got subsonic reactions.

Plus its still a 9-A Telekinesis. No Kaladin cannot regen from a pieces thats not how Low-Mid works. He needs High-Mid

If the regen has feats of regenerating faster than the damage he takes, then yeah: See movie Wolverine regenerating from sub atomic destruction from Jean purely by how fast he's able to regen, despite dying from his brain being destroyed.

 

[ShionAH]

I wanna note: If Sans speed gets equalized to Kaladin's athletic, then indeed, Sans can only beat him after a prolonged encounter with TK, since his blasts and bones stuff would be equalized to athletic, when Kaladin got subsonic reactions.

Sans would also keep his Hypersonic+ reactions.

If the regen has feats of regenerating faster than the damage he takes, then yeah: See movie Wolverine regenerating from sub atomic destruction from Jean purely by how fast he's able to regen, despite dying from his brain being destroyed.

He doesn't have High-Mid. Its basically instant so no

 

[ShionAH]

Btw sans magic is still gonna be the same since I don't think we equalize attack speed only combat speed


Anyways even if I believe its not a stomp since @LephyrTheRevanchist seems to think its fair I vote sans

 

[Adem_Warlock69]

I wanna note: If Sans speed gets equalized to Kaladin's athletic, then indeed, Sans can only beat him after a prolonged encounter with TK, since his blasts and bones stuff would be equalized to athletic, when Kaladin got subsonic reactions.

Technically, the blasters would be around baseline Superhuman due to upscaling over Sans' reactions which are already around 2x his combat speed, but that's still like 3 times below this lad's reactions lol

 

[Dragonite007]

Sans would also keep his Hypersonic reactions.

Actually, his reactions would be reduced by the same multiplier. In another words he will became athletic, athletic+ with reaction speed

 

[ShionAH]

Actually, his reactions would be reduced by the same multiplier. In another words he will became athletic, athletic+ with reaction speed

Oh is that so? Wow

 

[LephyrTheRevanchist]

Sans would also keep his Hypersonic reactions.

He doesn't have High-Mid. Its basically instant so no

Again, depends on the speed of the regen compared to the attack. It's pretty much a slam that in any other case could turn someone to mush. However, I checked the novel where he showed regen stuff and it's not even passive. So in this case, Sans slams if bloodlusted.

Also, no, Sans' reactions and attack speeds are also reduced:

The combat speed of that faster character is assumed to be equalized to the combat speed of the slower character. Every other speed the faster character has is reduced by the same multiplier. This includes the speed of any attacks, projectiles, reactions, perception, flight etc.

 

[LephyrTheRevanchist]

Technically, the blasters would be around baseline Superhuman due to upscaling over Sans' reactions which are already around 2x his combat speed, but that's still like 3 times below this lad's reactions lol

And apparently he has blocked/dodged omnidirectional projectiles too. So yeah, I'd say is fairer if Sans isn't bloodlusted.

 

[ShionAH]

Again, depends on the speed of the regen compared to the attack. It's pretty much a slam that in any other case could turn someone to mush. However, I checked the novel where he showed regen stuff and it's not even passive. So in this case, Sans slams if bloodlusted.

The lad probably stomps if its not bloodlusted because of the BS speed equalazation lol
Actually what I am thinking is would Sans still one shot since he has 9-A TK or not since he seems to only do damage at the end of his battle

 

[ShionAH]

And apparently he has blocked/dodged omnidirectional projectiles too. So yeah, I'd say is fairer if Sans isn't bloodlusted.

Doesn't he just dodge everything and win in that case? Subsonic+ against Superhuman attacks is not good...

Edit: Its not subsonic+ so the gap isn't too big but Idk I think this is a mismatch

 

[Adem_Warlock69]

Actually, his reactions would be reduced by the same multiplier. In another words he will became athletic, athletic+ with reaction speed

*Athletic, Peak Human reactions (bordering to Superhuman), Superhuman with Gaster Blasters"

 

[LephyrTheRevanchist]

Doesn't he just dodge everything and win in that case? Subsonic+ against Superhuman attacks is not good...

That's where Sans time stop+law manip helps him. By constantly shifting the rhythm of the fight.

 

[ShionAH]

That's where Sans time stop

Only used in his second phase

+law manip helps him.

I don't think thats useable in threads but I am not sure

 

[LephyrTheRevanchist]

All in all, I'd say depends what happens first after a prolonged encounter: Kaladin stabs Sans or Sans finally pulls TK.

 

[ShionAH]

All in all, I'd say depends what happens first after a prolonged encounter: Kaladin stabs Sans or Sans finally pulls TK.

Since all of sans magic is gonna be 9-A does that mean they will one shot too?

 

[LephyrTheRevanchist]

Since all of sans magic is gonna be 9-A does that mean they will one shot too?

I'm going with the assumption Sans can one shot with AoE if hit, yes. The only thing Kaladin can't actually dodge is TK, basically.

 

[PapiSavitar5025]

However, I checked the novel where he showed regen stuff and it's not even passive. So in this case, Sans slams if bloodlusted.

The Regen itself isn't passive, but Stormlight will keep Kaladin alive until it either runs out, or comes up against damage he CANNOT heal; even then it's pretty fast. A Shardblade through the spine is basically touted as an instant-kill, and Stormlight will heal the soul before it kill them.

But I'll remove the bloodlusted, since it seems to be a stomp with it.