Salad Saiyan (Dragon Ball What If) Discussion Thread

[The_2nd_Existential_Seed]

So uh a few questions about Cell Prime vs the Saladverse
With the official statement from Salad that Super Shenron can grant any wish as long as it is contained within a singular timeline, wouldn't this upgrade him to Low 1-C , and thusly Cell Prime to Low 1-C as of fighting the Moro who absorbed Super Shenron ?

Also, It was stated by Salad's Narration that neither Base Cell or Ultra Infinite Zamasu held any superiority towards one another, as in Salad's works they couldn't really do anything to each other, stating Ultra Infinite Zamasu doesn't have enough strength to defeat Cell (implying he's weaker), and Cell Prime can't kill Ultra Infinite Zamasu. So that should probably be noted under that key tha Cell does have the power advantage over Ultra Infinite Zamasu and it isn't just a durability then

 

[Spinoirr]

So uh a few questions about Cell Prime vs the Saladverse
With the official statement from Salad that Super Shenron can grant any wish as long as it is contained within a singular timeline, wouldn't this upgrade him to Low 1-C , and thusly Cell Prime to Low 1-C as of fighting the Moro who absorbed Super Shenron ?

Also, It was stated by Salad's Narration that neither Base Cell or Ultra Infinite Zamasu held any superiority towards one another, as in Salad's works they couldn't really do anything to each other, stating Ultra Infinite Zamasu doesn't have enough strength to defeat Cell (implying he's weaker), and Cell Prime can't kill Ultra Infinite Zamasu. So that should probably be noted under that key tha Cell does have the power advantage over Ultra Infinite Zamasu and it isn't just a durability then

Alright, and you're free to edit the sandbox

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[The_2nd_Existential_Seed]

Oh cool. i'll go ahead and do that then.

 

[GrayCraft_Dragon]

forgot this thing existed

 

[The_2nd_Existential_Seed]

Is there anyway we can argue for At least 1-A God Tiers ? Salad effectively states in Episode 15 that there's no difference between the powers Fu had (which Cell scales to, as they are stated to have the same level of powers) and what SaladSaiyan has as the Creator of the Saladverse. In-fact he even implies the power Piccolo/Slug had with their God powers were essentially the same thing as well.

 

[GrayCraft_Dragon]

Is there anyway we can argue for At least 1-A God Tiers ? Salad effectively states in Episode 15 that there's no difference between the powers Fu had (which Cell scales to, as they are stated to have the same level of powers) and what SaladSaiyan has as the Creator of the Saladverse. In-fact he even implies the power Piccolo/Slug had with their God powers were essentially the same thing as well.

i don't think so, we would need a lot of evidence for tier 1-A

 

[The_2nd_Existential_Seed]

i don't think so, we would need a lot of evidence for tier 1-A

It's explicitly stated on their level that the entirety of the continuities were never real to them and they viewed them as nothing but fiction.

 

[Spinoirr]

It's explicitly stated on their level that the entirety of the continuities were never real to them and they viewed them as nothing but fiction.

3:49:16

Could be 6D, possibly 7D via being higher then all continuities, but could be used for R>F

 

[The_2nd_Existential_Seed]

3:49:16

Could be 6D, possibly 7D via being higher then all continuities, but could be used for R>F

Could be R>F ? Let's go over the stuff stated in Episode 14-15

• Salad Saiyan states his Author powers and the God-Tiers powers were one in the same (which while technically beyond the tiering system is at least bare minimum R>F)
• Salad Saiyan states Fu acheived a higher level of existence where all of the continuities were never real to him [again, an R>F difference as it's the difference between real and not real]
• Salad Saiyan states Fu views the Continuities as no more than fiction [Again, R>F]

There is no contradiction. Other than the God-Tiers [Chronoa, Prime Cell, Super Shenron Slug, Continuity God Piccolo, and an extremely amped Frieza Potential GoD Goku], literally no one stood even a ghost of a chance against him and were constantly getting fodderized.
Salad Saiyan even covers the idea of an anti-feat as he explicitly implies he created characters specifically to rival Fu, meaning them being able to fight against Fu in that state isn't an outlier

 

[GrayCraft_Dragon]

3:49:16

Could be 6D, possibly 7D via being higher then all continuities, but could be used for R>F

I don't think it's R > F cause I'm pretty sure that's not how R > F works or at least I think, but I'm all here for the possibility of it being so, but I say it's more likely it is 6D, possibly 7D

 

[The_2nd_Existential_Seed]

People have gained R>F for seeing [insert Tier 2/1 cosmology] as Fiction, and viewing it as not real in comparison to themselves. It is literally R>F. The only way of contention is if there's an anti-feat, and as I proposed, there isn't, as Salad Saiyan (Avatar not the IRL Salad Saiyan) purposely granted the characters power on this level.

 

[The_2nd_Existential_Seed]

Bump. So, Chronoa explicitly stated that Super Shenron's wish granting ability can grant any wish but can only affect his Continuity that he is in, plus stated that he can affect other timelines which confirm at bare minimum minimum he's at Low 1-C because, well, hypertimelines. But if his only limit is that he can only affect his own Continuity with his wishes, couldn't you argue way higher than Low 1-C ?

Here's the clip: https://youtube.com/clip/UgkxBGcLMJ1-a7RqLCDGop14tNXRSOMLAllu?si=m3FA_uUeM3z3auQp