Saiyan Saga Vegeta Joule Estimation

[Firestorm808]

Piccolo's Moon busting feat is calculated and accepted to be about 2.9161038 * 10^32 J

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Darkanine/Dragon_Ball_Z:_Piccolo's_Moonbust_revisited

How much would we estimate Vegeta about to turn the Earth to ashes in the AP scale?

 

[TheJ-ManRequiem]

Barely above planet .

 

[Firestorm808]

In other words, about the same as Piccolo's.

 

[TheJ-ManRequiem]

Yeah . Not that it matters , as Kaioken is x4 that and then some .

 

[Firestorm808]

I thought Goku matched Vegeta's beam with KKx3? Wouldn't that make Base Goku 1/3 of Piccolo's?

 

[TheJ-ManRequiem]

Piccolo moon busted the night he killed raditz . Sub 1,000 , far weaker than raditz .

Goku would be 8000+, x4.

Goku is significantly more powerful than raditz , then slap the 4x on that . (Piccolo, krillin can instakil raditz tier fodder after training , Goku in base is far more powerful, than slap Kaioken on that ) .

 

[Firestorm808]

http://*********.com/Manga/Dragon-Ball/Chapter-231?id=260817

I'm basing it on the manga.

Goku KKx4 > Goku KKx3 = Vegeta Galick Gun > Piccolo Pre-Training (2.9161038 * 10^32 J)

Base Goku is about 1/3 of whatever Vegeta is.

 

[TheJ-ManRequiem]

?

And vegeta is hilariously above what piccolo is . Base goku is far above what piccolo was . Piccolo is above what piccolo was . Piccolo is far enough above what he was he could kill himself at that time in one attack .

 

[Firestorm808]

That's what I was asking in the OP. How much stronger is Vegeta compared to Pre-Training Piccolo in terms of numbers? From there, I can estimate Base Goku.

 

[TheJ-ManRequiem]

Vegeta>(can casually oblierate)>>nappa>>Piccolo>>saibmen=raditz(equal, Piccolo, krillin can kill both in one attack)>>Piccolo who did the feat .

 

[Firestorm808]

Post-Training Piccolo is about 2.5x stronger than Pre-Training. Nappa is about 15% stronger than Piccolo. Vegeta is about 4.5 times stronger than Nappa.

Vegeta's KE output should be about 3.7492763143 * 10^33 J.

In turn, Base Goku's is about 1.2497587714 * 10^33 J.

Is this about right, or should I not use power levels to scale?

 

[TheJ-ManRequiem]

No . Do not use power rankings , even the gap between Nappa and Vegeta would be larger .

 

[Firestorm808]

Using power rankings between characters not good. I understand that.

Does the same apply to the same character? IE Post-Training Piccolo is about 2.5x stronger than Pre-Training.

 

[TheJ-ManRequiem]

No, because power ranking bullshit not linear .

Plus vaporizing someone above who was stronger than ya , that us more than just 2.5 .

 

[Firestorm808]

In terms of Joules, all I can say for sure is that it's way more than the moon feat but less than Frieza's Planet Vegeta feat.