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Saitama vs Mori Jin (7-19)
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Lemonade125
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Mori wins for reasons above
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Lugh_Tuathe_Dé
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Yea they just came and go without reading the fight from the start.
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All these for Beatrice to oneshot
Lugh_Tuathe_Dé
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I'm gonna vote for Mori now for Ovens reason obviously so this can finish now
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Mori FRA. I don't see saitama having any feats that counters time stop Atm.
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Isn't mori more skilled and hated in general? And also that's forgetting his absurd amps
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I still don't think clones or durability negation will be useful at all because of the AP gap and AD. Mori's time stop wincon is as valid as Saitama's time travel if not less. And seeing how Saitama should be able to survive near-death experiences similar to Garou, Mori needs to rip Saitama apart during time stop or destroy his brain (both don't seem to be in character for Mori but I am not sure) because otherwise, it will have a completely opposite effect.
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Even with timestop, I have no clue how he gonna beat someone with higher durability, specially Saitama never shown to be hurt in the whole series
Lugh_Tuathe_Dé
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Can he even use that alone or has he shown to use it alone with his own knowledge? Saitama even barely understand the thing that's happening and now you wanna say Saitama can use it somehow. Phoenks already addressed the AD Saitama needs to be in an emotion burst or whatever you call it for his AD to be jumping on high development. Although i'm not sure if Phoenks put him in a state like that and even if that's the case if the time stopped his AD stops as well. Plus Mori already has experience fighting someone who has crazy Passive AD on top of RPL and ***** which is Satan. And Phoenks said above that the acupuncture will work on Saitama, Phoenks can correct me there if i'm wrong. And did you even read what Ovens said just it isn't just clones and the dura neg.
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Garou literally made him learn how to do it. And it is in his profile. I don't know why he shouldn't be able to use it.
I already mentioned why it would work. A worthy opponent is enough for an emotional burst. Just look at the Subterranian fight. Besides that, near-death experience is also a way of AD for people in OPM verse.
Didn't we already go over this on the other thread? Garou couldn't keep up with Saitama even with his Power Mimicry combined with his own AD. His power mimicry gave over quintillion times boost previously and Saitama was still stomping Garou. And unlike Satan's, Saitama's rate of growth increases as well. Satan doesn't compare to that.
Phoenks saying it doesn't neccesarily make it true. I already listed my reasons for thinking why it wouldn't work on page 3.
I think I read it but I already forgot
Lugh_Tuathe_Dé
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Bruh Satan has better AD than Saitama unlinke Saitama who needs to have strong emotions for to grow that big Satan doesn't. He literally go from 4-B to 4-A just by sitting for hours and do note that it gets stronger while fighting and top it up by RPL and Power mimicry. Satan's growth literally increases too.
And after that does he remember how to use it? No, stop because 1 he doesn't know himself how to use it and Garou helped him. 2 Now you're just saying that he can use the things he hasn't shown to do on his own. Or at least after he did it he already forgot to do it. 3 Saitama doesn't lead with that because he'll go to physicals real quick.
The AD wouldn't happen since Mori would prolly be calling the alternate versions of him due to knowing Saitama strength and immediately using time stop according to ovens, so before he could even AD the shit or feel the strong emotions it'll be a no go. Unless you say Saitama's gonna know what's happening while the time has stop which'll be NLF he won't be able to do anything.
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That just means it is passive and nothing more. It is good but the rate of growth is what matters here. And that's vastly in the favor of Saitama
His strength increases, not his growth.
Did you read the thread? This is the parallel timeline Saitama.
This is so frustrating. What part of "He learned it" you don't understand.
He was literally doing it on his own after learning. Garou even talks about how Saitama can perform his techniques better than him and do it without "God"s power. Garou didn't fully master that technique, to begin with.
Even after knowing Saitama's strength, it is not guaranteed that he will go for the best possible wincon at the beginning since he lacks sufficient information about Saitama besides his strength. If that's how you want to play, Saitama would immediately time travel before any of that happens. Even before that, it is not like he will freely allow Mori do whatever he wants. And time stop isn't a 100% wincon
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That's is exactly why I told everyone it should be limited, but hell naw, no one listened to me
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The fact people think Saitama's Time Travel is limited is just ridiculous to me.
Garou explained it to him and he did it exactly as he was taught. He learned it and performed it right as Garou died in front of him. He should have no problem doing it.
Unless you assume Saitama has that bad of a memory for something he learned literally seconds ago feels dumb to me.
Garou explained it to him and he did it exactly as he was taught. He learned it and performed it right as Garou died in front of him. He should have no problem doing it.
Unless you assume Saitama has that bad of a memory for something he learned literally seconds ago feels dumb to me.
Lugh_Tuathe_Dé
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He literally has.
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For a move he just picked up and showed genuine awe at and not an example used for a gag or joke?
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Also for the record I'm not voting here. I'm just saying Saitama CAN use his Time Travel.
Would he use it before Mori uses his hax on him? Probably not.
Would he use it before Mori uses his hax on him? Probably not.
Lugh_Tuathe_Dé
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Sigh............... i'm just gonna wait this to be finished since grace already has started like a few votes ago.
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You and me both.
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1) Saitama doesnt know anything about Mori and his weird abilities
2)Time travel Zero Punch isnt exactly his first move and he doesnt quite remember it either he can pull it off.
3) Saitama is therefore is very unlikely to lead with it or suddenly use it at the start of the fight. Hence Mori is most likely to can hax him faster.
2)Time travel Zero Punch isnt exactly his first move and he doesnt quite remember it either he can pull it off.
3) Saitama is therefore is very unlikely to lead with it or suddenly use it at the start of the fight. Hence Mori is most likely to can hax him faster.
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The argument about him having a bad memory is invalid since he did not have limited time travel at all.
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Saitama has Garou's technique. He does not have the mindset, the knowledge, or the training to put any of those techniques to use. Saitama openly rejects martial arts, because he views the entire concept as a waste of time. Why would he need to look cool if he has all the strength in the world? Martial arts are a non-essential in his mind.
The only reason he used his time traveling abilities was because Garou pleaded for him to reverse the damage he had done. It is otherwise out-of-character for Saitama to use any ability he might have picked up off of Garou.
The only reason he used his time traveling abilities was because Garou pleaded for him to reverse the damage he had done. It is otherwise out-of-character for Saitama to use any ability he might have picked up off of Garou.
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Doesn't Saitama already have a oneshot worthy AP gap and enough durability to tank Mori attacks for days? Also the arguments being made as to why he doesn't know/remember/needs Garou to do the time travel technique are literal garbage when we are shown that when Saitama is serious his technique mimicry and martial arts surpass Garou's
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The first point is true but the rest doesn't make sense. Saitama has already seen them in action and knows how to use them. And you have to be exceedingly stupid to not be able to use martial arts you mastered.
He rejected them because he never needed them. Everyone was over trillions of times weaker than him. But he has no reason to not use them against someone comparable to him. And he definitely doesn't see them as a waste of time either in this key since he openly called Garou's martial arts amazing.
Using everything in his arsenal wouldn't be out of character against a comparable opponent. And it was already shown that he was willing to use martial arts against Garou when serious.
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We are still saying skill is irrelevant in this match
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I don't know a lot about Mori but him starting with time stop seems only a little more likely than Saitama starting with time travel.
The kind of durability negation Mori has (attacking cells or blood whatever) is one that can be stopped by large enough gap. It is not soul manipulation or something. Besides, Saitama has already shown resistance to similar stuff to what Mori has
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No, it's not. Mori is able to read Saitama's strength to figure out that Saitama is much stronger than himself, and as such he would start off with his hax abilities.
Mori is not at all comparable to Saitama in strength, and Saitama has no form of Extrasensory Perception to read strength or find out abilities. Mori does.
Do you see what I mean?
Saitama does not resist being in the center of Black Holes. He didn't show the resistance and it isn't on his profile.
Mori can create Black Holes the size of several Solar Systems with his cloud, and can just strike Saitama with lightning continuously.
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How did he survive it according to your logic?
azontr
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Excuse me? I do not understand your question.
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You said he did not show any resistance to black holes, how did he survive the black hole from Garou? He showed up with 0 stretches in his body.
azontr
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Because he was not in the Black Hole. It didn't touch him.
Being next to it and actually being inside the Black Hole are two different things. Garou was in the center, Saitama was not.
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Doesn't Saitama already have higher durability than he can technically resist it?
azontr
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I do not think higher durability allows one to resist Black Holes.
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