okay so what changed before and after the last ND chapters? do we no longer apply anything from G to the main timeline now or are their exceptions (other than common mechanics in the verse)?
how far into tier 1 exactly? and if you had to guess, who could scale, at best?
G can safely get 5D easy but I see reason for a big 6D cosmology by itself
i mean if you have a rough idea, what's the new canon look like?
kinda sad no one really scales
Arale is 6D?
After I'm finished with the manga. Just with Kurumada and co writers can stop using vague open ended statements though
I think he's talking about plot, Arale cannot be erased even with existential erasure at the plot level.
and what does that say about cross scaling?
No change there.
so basically no difference between when its part of the main timeline and when its not?
high 1-B?
you mean the cosmology? isnt that the one thing you need to keep the same in order to prove they're canon?
then? 6D?
It already didn't end well
how can one universe within a multiverse have a vastly different cosmology then another?
so like where do you see them after your "big plans" go through? i assume its tier 1 but where? high 1-B is too high and wont go well, so maybe 5D/6D then?
I saw that lol. Admittedly I recreated it in a Google doc with better evidence abd counter arguments to the counter argument, but. I'm just not going to do it. It's just going ti be another messIt already didn't end well
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The cosmologies aren't different, and I think there is a misunderstanding on "what canon" means by wiki policy imo
wait really? explain
where?? high 1-B you already denied, only reasonable options left are somewhere in low 1-C and 1-C as far as i've seen
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cosmology is completely unimportant in the context of Saint Seiya there is only 3 things that matter in regards for cross scaling. There can be 2 -B multiverse or a high 1-B one doesn't matter so long as there 3 things are consistent.
Tbh if it got more staff involvement and a bit more evidence was presented and counter arguments were addressed better. It probably could have passed. Just me though
and those things are?
i know one person who could help you greatly but i'm kinda afraid of what'll happen if I tell you
I highly doubt it, that wasn't even enough to be accepted with 1-B, there were even people who understand level 1 and said they didn't qualify, at most you would get low 1-C.
Because the counter arguments were never addressed. Like going over the thread it felt like all counter arguments got ignored
I'm just curious, but in your opinion what do yiu believe them to ne?
Even if you had it there it wouldn't be of any use, because it simply doesn't meet the requirements to be 1-B, even a vsbtles member commented there and said that all he could get from it is a low 1-C, apart from the other translations they used, which ended up with an even more polluted crt.
uh well from what i gathered in discussions over dragon ball canon, anything not written by the author (or where he was not super involved like DBS or Daima, or anything that he himself doesnt portray as the successor to his work) is supplementary at best to outright non-canon if it had even slight contradictions, even if it contains his work still
I also have the same opinion, all spin-offs are not part of the canon, i see them as parallel worlds that do not share the same history and the same cosmology.
As someone that meticulously reads and reviews the tiering I think it does, but the crt linked left of tons of new information.
Yeah that's jpw o view canon too but a few exceptions do exist on the wiki.
I'll have a lot more details in the coming crts
eh?
pretty sure most authors do so for spinoffs, adaptations (anime or movies) or even some video games of their series
makes sense
okay, not sure why its relevant but thats an interesting detail in itself
okay, the point is?
that doesnt tell me why they should be considered canon unfortunately. what you're saying is true for most well-established mangakas and even western writers.
that's an aside, but you haven't really explained why any of this makes it all canon. you've stated something that is, more or less to an extend, true for a lot of mangakas and writers
You mean like he did in G in volume 1 in a massive author note introducing Okada to the fan base?
not gonna lie i didnt really read the introduction. did he say anything in it that makes it clear all these different works from him are canon and/or a precursor and successor to his works?
G is directly called a history to the work of Kurumada, it doesn’t get much more blatant than that. Episode G when it was coming out was fully intended to be a canon prequel.
that i can get cuz at that time Kurumada hadnt worked on Zero and Origins but what about the successor to those works? besides i seem to recall Kurumada wanting to do a prequel involving the gold saints himself one day but couldnt for various reason, so i could get if G was canon but the others?
There are ways to prove they’re also canon
90% written by him? is that true? if so then yeah it would undoubtedly be canon but is there like some source for that? OG authors making active suggestions and doing art isnt really unheard of but the former statement changes everything if true
eh, they all seemed like separate points to me so thats how i chose to respond
but isnt that bad though? because Kurumada is gonna do a heaven arc for sure and i'm like 90% sure that depiction of Zeus is gonna contradict GA like how the last ND chapters did
