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Sailor Moon: Base Downgrade, Adjustments and Profile Keys

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Ok, I'm going to attempt to clean up some stuff about Sailor Moon bit by bit. Let's start off with Jadeite's Dimension. It's pretty safe to say that the feat is pretty...unreasonable. But I'll go over it and point out why it's controversial.

So the first argument was that: it was part of her transformation. : Though Usagi had already transformed before going into Jadeite's Dimension.

The second argument was that: it was part of her "In the name of the moon" speech. I believe this a good reasoning. As shown in these these two scans, : here and : here, the backround of the moon is shown accompanied with stars. Now, there was reasoning that the backround in Jadeite's Realm that there were no stars and is a replication of the night sky. I have to say that even if there were stars, both are drawn in a cartoonish style that would seem as visual effects. You know, stuff that you would find in clipart. Others argument included that the Dimension was incredibly unstable as Usagi's Sonic Scream was effecting it, Rei was able to burn it down in her first appearance and not knowing the full proportions of the realm. Though I think the second argument is the most reasonable.

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So in going back through the manga, I came across Kunzite freezing Tokyo, in which i did a : calculation and posted it as a blog. In summation, it comes out to City Level with a possible chance of being Country Level ( though that may be too much of a stretch. )

This would serve base for the Sailor Moon verse and would apply to: Sailor Mercury, Mars, Jupiter , Venus (as they killed Kunzite in a combined attack panels later), Kunzite himself and possibly the rest of the Four Generals. Though Sailor Moon's base should be Large Star Level due to the power of the Silver Crystal.

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Accompanied with that, I was wondering if I could reform Sailor Gaurdian's keys as personally, I find it too confusing to which versions they correspond to. I think we should we should replace it with the name of the arcs/saga like with the DBZ profile key.

For example, Sailor Moon's new profile would look like this:

Tier: High 4-C | 4-B | likely 3-C | likely 3-C | 3-B, High 3-A when enraged | Low 2-C | Low 2-C

Key: Dark Kingdom Arc | Black Moon Arc | Infinity Arc | Dream Arc | Stars Arc | Neo Queen Serenity/Lambda Usagi | Sailor Cosmos


This would apply to the other Sailors with the exclusion of the last one of course.
 
I am not informed about Sailor Moon, but recognise that the profiles were left unfinished due to Imperator's absence, and will highlight this for more information.
 
You should probably explain what was the controversy for the 5-A feat and explain why it shouldn't be used.
 
Too weak.

You must remember that the Tau System was called as the "miniature universe".

And two crystals in the previous arc could destroy the world.
 
DarkLK said:
Too weak.
You must remember that the Tau System was called as the "miniature universe".

And two crystals in the previous arc could destroy the world.
I think that was crystal anime only. It's always been a galaxy in the manga.


Also on the topic of the OP; Neo Queen Serenity shouldn't be included with "Lambda" form as they didn't remain in their perfect forms and wished to return to the 30th century as they were before.


Also, I think there should be a disclaimer that the Lambda forms only occured when they were inside the Galaxy Cauldron.
 
@Iamunanimousinthat I think that seems reasonable.
 
Sounds good. Putting Lambda Forms seems unnecessary anyway. Should we exclude Neo Queen Serenity as well since she doesn't seem viable due to the existence of Sailor Cosmos and would take up space in the key.
 
Well, Iamunanimousinthat did not say to exclude them, except for Serenity, just to mention in notes that they are not normal states for the Senshi.
 
Iamunanimousinthat said:
DarkLK said:
Too weak.
You must remember that the Tau System was called as the "miniature universe".

And two crystals in the previous arc could destroy the world.
I think that was crystal anime only. It's always been a galaxy in the manga.

It never been a galaxy (Úèǵ▓│) in the manga. Only a star system (µÿƒþ│╗) or a universe (Õ«çÕ«Ö).

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Is it possible to scale such a small universe though?
 
i think their profile's are too long and messy, is there any chance to put the last part of sailor moon's characters pages (where her forms and attacks are described) in tabbs?
 
Well, shouldn't it simply contain energy proportionate to its size?
 
Would creating a small universe a space-time hax, or would it qualify as an AP feat?

Which Sailor Moon form would this apply to?
 
I think that we generally count creating pocket realms as hax according to their size, in the case of Kaguya, and similar.
 
DarkLK said:
Iamunanimousinthat said:
DarkLK said:
Too weak.
You must remember that the Tau System was called as the "miniature universe".

And two crystals in the previous arc could destroy the world.
I think that was crystal anime only. It's always been a galaxy in the manga.
It never been a galaxy (Úèǵ▓│) in the manga. Only a star system (µÿƒþ│╗) or a universe (Õ«çÕ«Ö).


Wow! What a turn of events! Can you check these scans to see if the japanese says universe here as well?


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Because if the Tau system in Japanese is a universe, even a miniature universe! Then Pharaoh 90 gets a huge booooost! Seeing as he actually brought the Tau System to earth via space dis
 
The first scan is talking about how there was a warp in space-time fabric and that's how Pharaoh 90s henchmen got to earth. I'm not very efficient in Japanese, but in the Mixx, Kodashi and Miss Dream translation they only refer to it as the Tau System or Tau Nebula. Although, the Miss Dream Translation first described as a :"Miniature Replica of a Galaxy" the Kodashi Translation says it's a miniature galaxy and the Mixx Translation calls it a "Shadow Box Universe"
 
The scan that I presented is the only scan where it is called a miniature universe.

For all other scans it was a star system/nebula (µÿƒþ│╗).
 
Hmm. It seems unreliable then. Especially considering the small size. For example, Grant Morrison's JLA Classified had a sentient miniature universe character, and it was strictly treared as a regular superhuman.
 
Okay. That is different then.
 
So sorry for reviving this thread. I've been inactive for quite some time due to personal issues. Though i've returned and wanted to foresee a conclusion to this. To summarize: All 5-A feats are downgraded to 7-B (Except for Sailor Moon which will be the afformentioned High 4-C) and to rename the keys to the title of the respective arcs.
 
Well, I do not remember this thread very well, but would appreciate if other staff members could check it up.
 
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