DaMonkeMan
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Sabo literally said he sends one throughout the target to crack it and break it up. You should know this because YOU said it first!
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I said force, not shockwaves. There's a difference.Sabo literally said he sends one throughout the target to crack it and break it up. You should know this because YOU said it first!
Not reallySure, but Sabo sending the force through the cracks is pretty similar to some other shockwaves we've seen.
Dude, it looks exactly like Whitebeard destroying that mask with his powers. It's quite likely a shockwave attack.Not really
Occam's Razor. There are so many other things it could be rather than shockwaves. As I've pointed out, the way we handle shockwaves in this verse and in the wiki in general require direct statements such as these three I've listed here:It's quite likely a shockwave attack.
For example, Marco's Bluebird, Impact Dials, and Kuma's Paws
I literally showed you a panel of someone using a shockwave and it having an effect very similar to Sabo's techniques
Stop repeating the same arguments.Occam's Razor. There are so many other things it could be rather than shockwaves
When?Sabo even implies it may be one.
It may look that way, but we have no way of knowing for sure wether Sabo's Ryu no Ibuki is a shockwave attack or not. We don't give abilities off of what-ifs or possibilities. We need actual proof.does something that looks incredibly similar to what Sabo does.
And yet we see him sending the "force" through the cracks he made in the stage.And Sabo even describes this as sending force THROUGH something, to the "core" of it, implying it's very similar to Internal Destruction Haki as well, just more focused.
That is not at all what I'm saying and you know that. You're choosing to ignore my point.it has blaring similarities to other forms of Dura Neg, but you don't know what it actually is! "
While Shanks sits pretty with Advanced Conq on his profile with practically no feats with it and Oda just saying " oh, it's pretty strong Haki! ".It is much too early to give Sabo durability negation when he's only ever used the ability once, and in that one time, it did not act at all like durability negation.
And? He simply taps on the arena > sticks his Armament infused fist into the arena a little > sends a force/shockwave through it to break it up into tens of pieces.It may look that way, but we have no way of knowing for sure wether Sabo's Ryu no Ibuki is a shockwave attack or not. We don't give abilities off of what-ifs or possibilities. We need actual proof.
And yet we see him sending the "force" through the cracks he made in the stage.
He split the sky with his clash against whitebeard which is a sign of it.While Shanks sits pretty with Advanced Conq on his profile with practically no feats with it and Oda just saying " oh, it's pretty strong Haki! ".
Who said I was leaving?Leave if you like, you've done more than enough in the thread so don't be afraid to go out Kachon.
What are your thoughts on Damage Boost instead?I'm not sure I'd describe this as being durability negation.
You said you were done debating.Who said I was leaving?
It's mainly his description of it that makes me think that it's either Dura Neg, or some strong application of Air Manip.I'm not sure I'd describe this as being durability negation.
Damage Boost seems fitting.What are your thoughts on Damage Boost instead?
That's just a weird form of pressure points, hitting it in a specific place as to where it stretched outThough, shouldn't Sabo still get something for what ever he did to exert force into the cracks and destroy the ring?
I feel like that should at least be counted as Air Manip or something, if it's not seen as a shockwave.
Could genuinely just be the energy from his fist. You don't need air or shockwave generation to make widespread damageSure but he already had his fists in it and they don't show him taking it out and in again, it's implied he just output something into it to separate it.
Don't you need more than two?Two staff members have given their opinion and durability negation seems to be rejected.
I don't think that's how that works though.Could genuinely just be the energy from his fist. You don't need air or shockwave generation to make widespread damage
You need at least 2.Don't you need more than two?
Since you proposed this & @Damage3245 liked it, could we at the very least add pressure points via Ryusoken for Sabo & Robin?Pressure points really, nothing else
AND AIR MANIPADD THE PRESSURE POINTS
You still agreeing on this?Damage Boost seems fitting.