Rwby - Some updated calcs and a supporting feat

[Spinoirr]

So a new weight for Amity Colosseum has been accepted, scales to all the Maidens and downscales to all other 8-A characters

Ambrosius gets a update to his lifting strength and AP, becoming large island level

And there's this large town level Maiden Cinder feat that's supporting evidence

Mod agreements: Maverick_Zero_X, DarkDragonMedeus

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[GrayCraft_Dragon]

cooked, I'll wait for the other peps of RWBY community opinion first though

 

[Oscar]

downscales to all other 8-A characters

Sorry if I didn't understand that part. Are you trying to put all the hunter characters in High 6-C?

 

[Cire]

Did Amity Arena get an increase in size? What made that change?

 

[Spinoirr]

Did Amity Arena get an increase in size? What made that change?

Penny in the Atlas Arc is 5'6" instead thanks to new information

 

[Cire]

Penny in the Atlas Arc is 5'6" instead thanks to new information

What’s the new info?

 

[Spinoirr]

What’s the new info?

Height​

• 5'5" (1.65m)[2] (Volumes 1-3)
• 5'6" (1.67m)[3] (Volumes 6-8)

the old Calc used 5'5"

 

[Cire]

Height​

• 5'5" (1.65m)[2] (Volumes 1-3)
• 5'6" (1.67m)[3] (Volumes 6-8)

the old Calc used 5'5"

So how does one inch drastically increase the values?

 

[Cire]

Also, with the new weight of Amity Arena, how strong is that in tnt tons?

 

[Spinoirr]

Also, with the new weight of Amity Arena, how strong is that in tnt tons?

That's for later

This is just for lifting strength

 

[Spinoirr]

So how does one inch drastically increase the values?

Eh it's more accurate also better pixel scaling

 

[Cire]

That's for later

This is just for lifting strength

Gotcha. So there will be a recalc of the lifting feat as a whole?

 

[Spinoirr]

Gotcha. So there will be a recalc of the lifting feat as a whole?

Kinda, but this is it for now

 

[Oscar]

I guess this is just for the maidens... Anyway, it looks good.

 

[Spinoirr]

I guess this is just for the maidens... Anyway, it looks good.

Not really, remember JNR, WBY and Emerald restrained Maiden Penny from flying away

 

[Oscar]

Not really, remember JNR, WBY and Emerald restrained Maiden Penny from flying away

I'm a little dubious about that scale in the first place...

 

[Spinoirr]

I'm a little dubious about that scale in the first place...

Still they restrained her regardless, even if it took all of them together to hold her back

 

[Oscar]

Still they restrained her regardless, even if it took all of them together to hold her back

I think that feat should be left as an Outlier... Most of the feats of Team Rwby and JNR mostly don't reach the absurd scales of the maidens... Adding to the fact that there are A whole thread explaining why no one should climb maidens

 

[Spinoirr]

I think that feat should be left as an Outlier... Most of the feats of Team Rwby and JNR mostly don't reach the absurd scales of the maidens... Adding to the fact that there are A whole thread explaining why no one should climb maidens

And yet they can survive attacks (without aura too) from a casual maiden Cinder whos large town level with casual attacks

Either way it's shown that way for lifting strength at least and again it took All of them together to hold her back

 

[Oscar]

And yet they can survive attacks (without aura too) from a casual maiden Cinder whos large town level with casual attacks

It's not a good argument, really. It's like saying that Mr. Satan, because he survived an attack from Cell, should be able to scale from him.

Either way it's shown that way for lifting strength at least and again it took All of them together to hold her back

I think we would have to see how much the LF of all of them together would give to see if it is necessary.

 

[Spinoirr]

It's not a good argument, really. It's like saying that Mr. Satan, because he survived an attack from Cell, should be able to scale from him.

I think we would have to see how much the LF of all of them together would give to see if it is necessary.

No full power Maiden Cinder low 7-B

Her casual attacks are shown to be high 7-C, the characters can survive her casual attacks without aura

We have a actual value for how strong her casual attacks are

 

[Keeweed]

For one that’s not causal, it just wasn’t pushing herself either. Though bigger issue is that is a heat attack and heat doesn’t scale physically. That’s been the case for years now.

 

[Maverick_Zero_X]

Hard disagree with scaling the cast to the Maidens, that was already covered.

Other proposals seem fine.

 

[Cire]

For one that’s not causal, it just wasn’t pushing herself either. Though bigger issue is that is a heat attack and heat doesn’t scale physically. That’s been the case for years now.

For Cinder, the heat comes from her magic and semblance, which both amp her up physically. Cinder is also capable of taking magic blasts from maidens in her own weight class too, like Penny, Raven and Winter.

 

[Keeweed]

Yeah but it can’t be used as like physical evidence for other characters to scale to her. It’s just support for her magical energy, which doesn’t scale to anyone else. That isn’t a maiden.

 

[Cire]

Yeah but it can’t be used as like physical evidence for other characters to scale to her. It’s just support for her magical energy, which doesn’t scale to anyone else. That isn’t a maiden.

For now, let’s just do it for maiden tiers. Since other maidens and higher should be able to replicate the feat easily.

 

[Cire]

What does everyone think about Cinder’s melting feat btw? I lean towards using the vaporization value.

 

[Jesterofgames]

Hard disagree with scaling the cast to the Maidens, that was already covered.

I feel like this point has been kinda lost in translation. Pretty sure the scaling directly proposed by OP is only for lifting strength, Not AP.

and I'm pretty sure downscaling to Maiden Penny's lifting strength already accepted for Ruby weiss, blake and the others. It's on their page at least.
if there are disagreements about the lifting strength scaling, feel like they should be adressed in a different thread after the changes have been accepted.

What does everyone think about Cinder’s melting feat btw? I lean towards using the vaporization value.

Pretty sure the vaporization value is the one that was accepted. at least one of the large town level ends was accepted.

(Oh also I agree with the threads proposal's since it's just updating already accepted stuff.)

 

[Maverick_Zero_X]

I feel like this point has been kinda lost in translation. Pretty sure the scaling directly proposed by OP is only for lifting strength, Not AP.

and I'm pretty sure downscaling to Maiden Penny's lifting strength already accepted for Ruby weiss, blake and the others. It's on their page at least.
if there are disagreements about the lifting strength scaling, feel like they should be adressed in a different thread after the changes have been accepted.

Oh I meant I disagree with bumping the cast to Tier 7 via the Maidens, the Lifting Strength downscaling is fine.

 

[KobsterHope07]

So a new weight for Amity Colosseum has been accepted, scales to all the Maidens and downscales to all other 8-A characters

Ambrosius gets a update to his lifting strength and AP, becoming large island level

And there's this large town level Maiden Cinder feat that's supporting evidence

What 8-A characters? I thought RWBY were 8-B currently. Though, shouldn’t the LS for the main cast when they restrain Penny be divided by the amount of people that assisted?

The Ambrosius and Cinder stuff is fine

 

[Spinoirr]

What 8-A characters? I thought RWBY were 8-B currently. Though, shouldn’t the LS for the main cast when they restrain Penny be divided by the amount of people that assisted?

The Ambrosius and Cinder stuff is fine

There's a CRT that passed that makes Atlas arc characters 8-A, it just wasn't added yet

 

[Cire]

I will say that Penny was able to lift up the arena in her base form. She just needed her maiden powers for the extra boost.

 

[Oscar]

I will say that Penny was able to lift up the arena in her base form. She just needed her maiden powers for the extra boost.

That's already entering the realm of speculation honestly. From what I remember, Penny definitely needs her maiden powers for that.

 

[Jesterofgames]

That's already entering the realm of speculation honestly. From what I remember, Penny definitely needs her maiden powers for that.

not really. in this clip amity is rising a bit. she could push it a bit without her maiden powers. But she couldn't reach the required height. Hence her using them.

 

[Cire]

Aside from Penny’s height, why is the vaporation value so much higher than before, going up to large town?

 

[Spinoirr]

And there's this large town level Maiden Cinder feat that's supporting evidence

This one uses vap + melting

The old one doesn't

 

[Cire]

Why combine the two? Shouldn’t it be either melting or vaping?

 

[Keeweed]

This one uses vap + melting

The old one doesn't

Hold on a second, the new one uses iron since we don’t have a value for steel, but that’s a terrible substitute. Iron has a vastly higher heat resistance than steel.

 

[Cire]

How so?

 

[Keeweed]

Iron has a melting point that is over 10% higher, and likely has a vaporization difference that is even higher as a result. That’s a different between town level and large town level. Granted the feat is purely support since it’s heat but it won’t be fully accurate using a metal with quite a bit higher resistance than the other one.