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Hey how’s about don’t.I mean do ya blame him?
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Hey how’s about don’t.I mean do ya blame him?
She is using her aura to activate it yes, all Dust ammunition requires Aura to function properly. This is further emphasized by the existence of semblance like Coco' Hype, as well as Blake's clones and Weiss' glyphs, both of which utilize aura in conjunction with Dust bullets to manifest different elemental properties.Don’t call me boyo, you say that when you’re about to get agitated.
The question was for dust bullets.
When Ruby shoots a normal dust bullet, she is not using her aura to activate it, she’s just shooting a bullet through her scythe’s mechanism. And as you said, that is never shown to have actual Aura on it. But the point in total isn’t completely relevant either way.
The manga version of the arma gigas comes from the Official Manga, which is non-canon yes, but the guidebook and later volume 4 commentary confirm that it is a bunch of Geists in one body, Ice Queendom is confirmed to be canon though.I would much rather you talk about the Arma.
Because the only way you could say that Weiss has NPI for killing them is to say she didn’t hit their masks… but she would have had to hit their masks when she burned their entire construct.
On top of the Giant Knight even BEING an Arma coming from the manga anthology, which is… very very different. Also using Ice Queendom, which is also very very different and specifically non-canon, doesn’t aid you.
Methinks I will is betterHey how’s about don’t.
Her killing the Knight by destroying it totally would have inevitably hit the masks inside it, is my claim.She is using her aura to activate it yes, all Dust ammunition requires Aura to function properly. This is further emphasized by the existence of semblance like Coco' Hype, as well as Blake's clones and Weiss' glyphs, both of which utilize aura in conjunction with Dust bullets to manifest different elemental properties.
The manga version of the arma gigas comes from the Official Manga, which is non-canon yes, but the guidebook and later volume 4 commentary confirm that it is a bunch of Geists in one body, Ice Queendom is confirmed to be canon though.
Bro they had to retcon the Arma Gigas in general. Its just messy to even try and bring it up tbhHer killing the Knight by destroying it totally would have inevitably hit the masks inside it, is my claim.
So the point of “their mask are selectively intangible, and are completely tangible while possessing something” remains
Ice Queendom is separate universe wha?
k idc i said i dont wanna derailBoringGeoff - Post - Rooster Teeth
Hey FNDM! Well that was a helluva weekend, huh?? We hope you’re as excited for RWBY: Ice Queendom as we are. This moment has been a long time coming. Believe it or not, this new show has been in the works for almost a decade. The story goes that, about 8 years ago, Monty was at a convention...roosterteeth.com
"According to Rooster Teeth, the anime was not an alternate universe or a reboot. While the story was set in the same universe as the main show, they are calling it “canon adjacent”.
The first three episodes recaped Volumes 1 and 2 before moving to an original story that includes new characters, settings, and Grimm.
Ice Queendom occurred during the Beacon Arc after Volume 2."
Ice Queendom is canon
Imagine thinking I said that though?I mean that ddoesn't take away from the fact its called canon
Her killing the Knight by destroying it totally would have inevitably hit the masks inside it, is my claim.
So the point of “their mask are selectively intangible, and are completely tangible while possessing something” remains
Tangible when possessing stuff sure, but both Harriet and Ruby hit and killed their respective Geists when they werent possessing stuffHer killing the Knight by destroying it totally would have inevitably hit the masks inside it, is my claim.
So the point of “their mask are selectively intangible, and are completely tangible while possessing something” remains
Which perfectly also applies if the Grimm wasn't intangible, and we are clinging way too hard and making assumptions of NPI just for it being based off a ghost, to be 'immaterially' passively intangible 24/7Tangible when possessing stuff sure, but both Harriet and Ruby hit and killed their respective Geists when they werent possessing stuff
Hell the fact that Clover, a seasoned huntsman who has undoubtedly faced Geists before given he knew exactly how to beat it, even attempted to hook the Geist's body would be evidence that he can interact with its body if he hadnt missed.
Yes? Hence why it should be specified that they have NPI for both Elemental and Immaterial intangibilitieis, but not Phasing.Elemental intangibility is a simulation of intangibility. Its a form of intangibility that doesnt actually make you intangible, but allows you to pass through PARTIALLY permeable things. Like someone made of water being able to walk through a grate.
Interacting with a substance/element is NOT the same as being able to interact with non-corporeality, or any of that stuff. Hence why theres a big differentiation
With all of the context taken int consideration as one it is pretty clear that it is intangible. The one making huge assumptions is you, acting like the Geist being intangible only comes from one word as opposed to a handful of sources coupled with consistent showings throughout the series.Commentary describes it as a ghost grimm in the design aspect. Doesnt make it a ghost.
Guidebook uses one adjective to say its intangible, moves on to its main possession power, and you're making huge assumptions abt how it works just based on one word.
It does when said possession power involves physically entering matter in order to take control of it.Possession power =/= Intangibility.
It ran away after Harriet punched through the wall, yes. Before that it was effectively just floating in front of Blake while she unloaded into it.She was spooked, it was dark, the Geist took her by a clear surprise, and it wasn't stationary, you yourself admit it just kept running away. We do not see any of the bullets physically go through, or even interact with the Geist. This is another assumption
Prove that it only goes intangible when it possesses things. The burden of proof is on you to do so.The Geist possesses. It only goes intangible through things it wants to possess. Its a linked power, but doesnt mean as such. If anything we can see the geist actively make an impact on the ground when it possessed the tree
It was in fact fully broadcasted as such. Hell the fact that Clover, a seasoned huntsman who has undoubtedly faced Geists before given he knew exactly how to beat it, even attempted to hook the Geist's body would be evidence that he can interact with its body if he hadnt missed.He didn't say this in exact regards to his semblance. It was in regards to the rock that was about to fall on Clover or whatever.
The semblances cancel out clearly. We cant just blame every plot inconvenience on Qrow unless its fully broadcasted as such
Its almost like the cast can hit intangible opponents or something.If you were intangible to every physical attack then you shouldnt be scared of being hit in the first place.
Because an intangible creature is still able to attack stuff? Being intangible doesnt remove your ability to attack.They possess the rocks to make themselves actually capable of dealing damage, but are still implied to cause harm in general in its true form, as well as the fact it physically tried to attack Blake.
If a Geist was always intangible, why are they actively trying to attack a character physically?
Th is an intangible being doing trying to physically attack someone?
NopeBro, if anything it proves YOU wrong. Actually says only SPECIALIZED people and things can even interact with a chill (Not kill it. Much like you said)
The Chill is just as big of a point as the Geist. There are still feats of normal huntsmen killing Chills.Literally every instance of the Chill being the reason for NPI was swapped to the Geist. No one acknowledges this as a point and you've actively skipped my point just to try and quote on something irrelevant.
Even i admit the Geist is a much better argument to make than the Chill, please just save us the extra useless talking point
Except you havent, despite me begging you numerous times to do so. All youve done is demand others prove their points with evidence but refuse to practice what you preach because you know that there is no evidence to prove yourself right, so you just insult people and divert away from the fact that you have no way to prove anything you are claiming.Except i have...and the main issue here is i dont think theres enough evidence for NPI since you are only assuming the ideal.
Yes, because that is the logical conclusion. What proof do you have that it is contradicting itself? The guidebook is primary canon, anything established in the guidebook is canon to the show.Gotta love how the Geist could literally get physically hit, multiple times, and it'll just be assumed RWBY have NPI over thinking that m a y be RWBY is just contradicting itself? Over a fact not even officially and concretely established in the show.
Love how youre just ignoring all the other evidence that it is intangfible and claiming that the only thing that makes it intangible is that its based off of a ghost and nothing else. Not the fact that its outright stated to be intangible in the guidebook. Not the fact that it can enter inert matter at will in order to possess it. Nah, its only intangible because the directors and writers based it off of a ghost.Which perfectly also applies if the Grimm wasn't intangible, and we are clinging way too hard and making assumptions of NPI just for it being based off a ghost, to be 'immaterially' passively intangible 24/7
Intangibility does not remove your ability to attack things by default.Fr how does a completely intangible being try to attack Blake physically? You cant claim the Geist can NOW turn its tangibility on and off when thats literally what you've been denying.
While hitting their masks. Which is why I said the masks are their weak point.Tangible when possessing stuff sure, but both Harriet and Ruby hit and killed their respective Geists when they werent possessing stuff
Hell the fact that Clover, a seasoned huntsman who has undoubtedly faced Geists before given he knew exactly how to beat it, even attempted to hook the Geist's body would be evidence that he can interact with its body if he hadnt missed.
Elemental Intangibility does apply for NPI period.Yes? Hence why it should be specified that they have NPI for both Elemental and Immaterial intangibilitieis, but not Phasing.
Its only showings of actual intangibility go hand in hand with what its exclusively possessing. Theres been nothing showings its intangible to regular physical attacks, or the fact that Aura is needed to hit them. These are the assumptions you've made and if you're scanning anything, prove this.With all of the context taken int consideration as one it is pretty clear that it is intangible. The one making huge assumptions is you, acting like the Geist being intangible only comes from one word as opposed to a handful of sources coupled with consistent showings throughout the series.
Yes. Its intangible to perform that. It has never shown intangibility outside of possessing something either though. And how WOULDNT this be considered phasing intangibility?It does when said possession power involves physically entering matter in order to take control of it.
It was attacking Blake. If Blake hit the geist, prove it. Otherwise she was scared, panicking and didnt get it RIGHT after it was physically attacking herIt ran away after Harriet punched through the wall, yes. Before that it was effectively just floating in front of Blake while she unloaded into it.
Through the fact that this is the ONLY TIMES we've ever seen it go intangible.Prove that it only goes intangible when it possesses things. The burden of proof is on you to do so.
The hook wasnt. And clover is literally there to balance out Qrow. We cant 100% confirm every bad thing happening just cause of Qrow.It was in fact fully broadcasted as such. Hell the fact that Clover, a seasoned huntsman who has undoubtedly faced Geists before given he knew exactly how to beat it, even attempted to hook the Geist's body would be evidence that he can interact with its body if he hadnt missed
Or the 'intangibility' is questionable maybe? One adjective that is unclear and can be taken in multiple ways usually isnt enough to confirm a verse-wide power.Its almost like the cast can hit intangible opponents or something.
Yes it does? If its immaterial, and is passively intangible 24/7, then it cant interact since it cant control its own tangibility. If you can PROVE its a one-sided relationship, then by all means. But you cant. You have to overlap all of this with a bunch of assumptionsBecause an intangible creature is still able to attack stuff? Being intangible doesnt remove your ability to attack.
Nope
Only says remove, not kill.
Chills are stated in the lore to be incorporeal, and huntsmen have killed them before.
only says remove, not kill.
huntsmen have killed them before
W h e r e ? ? ?The Chill is just as big of a point as the Geist. There are still feats of normal huntsmen killing Chills.
Actual mirror. You'll sit here and post a whole text excerpt that says nothing.Except you havent, despite me begging you numerous times to do so. All youve done is demand others prove their points with evidence but refuse to practice what you preach because you know that there is no evidence to prove yourself right, so you just insult people and divert away from the fact that you have no way to prove anything you are claiming.
Its not the logical conclusion, its just the conclusion you want so you can have RWBY fight Jojo stands or w/eYes, because that is the logical conclusion. What proof do you have that it is contradicting itself? The guidebook is primary canon, anything established in the guidebook is canon to the show.
Nope! It hasn't got 'phasing intangbility' somehow but it has 'immaterial intangibility' that makes it immune to physical attacksHas a Geist ever phased through a wall or anything with its mask?
Yes, it does. That is a wiki-accepted standard. You are too locked into “physical.”Elemental Intangibility does apply for NPI period.
Bro's really acting like discovering the existence of a phasing semblace is the ultimate trump card, acting like i havent read Before the Dawn and knew about Rosa's semblance for years lmaoNope! It hasn't got 'phasing intangbility' somehow but it has 'immaterial intangibility' that makes it immune to physical attacks
Bro is making this up as he goes along after finding out theres a legit semblance that makes you actually intangible
1 Adjective that the show contradicts to be intangible in the way you say so.Love how youre just ignoring all the other evidence that it is intangfible and claiming that the only thing that makes it intangible is that its based off of a ghost and nothing else. Not the fact that its outright stated to be intangible in the guidebook. Not the fact that it can enter inert matter at will in order to possess it. Nah, its only intangible because the directors and writers based it off of a ghost.
It does if you're passively intangible and cant turn yourself tangible like you have been saying.Intangibility does not remove your ability to attack things by default.
???If your issue is the “Non-Physical” aspect then that’s a fault of the name. The general ability would still be given to RWBY characters.
Ofc you do SuperRWBYFan234.Bro's really acting like discovering the existence of a phasing semblace is the ultimate trump card, acting like i havent read Before the Dawn and knew about Rosa's semblance for years lmao
No, that’s why they’re separated. Elemental intangibility would never be equated to someone being incorporeal.???
Elemental Intangibility literally uses physical substances what?
Are you saying someone elementally intangible via water, like Juvia from Fairy Tail, is the same as being incorporeal?
It's a little more limited, but yes. Shit basically acts like intangibility???
Elemental Intangibility literally uses physical substances what?
Are you saying someone elementally intangible via water, like Juvia from Fairy Tail, is the same as being incorporeal?
Okay but NPI would still not apply if an opponent can merely 'interact' with Elemental Intangibility?No, that’s why they’re separated. Elemental intangibility would never be equated to someone being incorporeal.
Like I said, it’s a fault of the name. It’s not quite accurate for elemental intangibility.
You can have one type of NPI but not another, and therefore be useless against a different opponent.
I know what it is. It ACTS like intangibility, but it isnt non-physical since it uses actual physical elementsIt's a little more limited, but yes. Shit basically acts like intangibility
As I said, it’s not really a discussion for this thread. You are actually correct about this, but it’s just a naming problem than a scaling one.Okay but NPI would still not apply if an opponent can merely 'interact' with Elemental Intangibility?
NPI is being able to touch and interact something you normally wouldnt be able to. That doesnt apply to like, 99% of the potential elements that can be made for.
Whats Non-Physical about a physical substance?
Cool, but as long as it doesnt mean RWBY gets to have NPI just for a character being able to hit someone with 'elementally intangible' (Even though she has to actively choose to split herself up into sections, its not passive. Elemental Intangibility is just the best general way to describe the semblance in this wiki's terms).As I said, it’s not really a discussion for this thread. You are actually correct about this, but it’s just a naming problem than a scaling one.
Either way, let’s just agree to focus on the Geist right now.
The ability will remain, and it will be labeled as NPI until the name is changed.Cool, but as long as it doesnt mean RWBY gets to have NPI just for a character being able to hit someone with 'elementally intangible' (Even though she has to actively choose to split herself up into sections, its not passive. Elemental Intangibility is just the best general way to describe the semblance in this wiki's terms).
Again, for the people in the back, Elements/substances in Elemental Intangibility are STILL physical world.
She turns into a cloud of molecules when she uses her semblance, she doesnt have to think to do anythingCool, but as long as it doesnt mean RWBY gets to have NPI just for a character being able to hit someone with 'elementally intangible' (Even though she has to actively choose to split herself up into sections, its not passive. Elemental Intangibility is just the best general way to describe the semblance in this wiki's terms).
Again, for the people in the back, Elements/substances in Elemental Intangibility are STILL physical world.
Even though its not non-physical interaction.The ability will remain, and it will be labeled as NPI until the name is changed.
Such as?Many, MANY other profiles have NPI for interacting with elemental intangibility, this is not just RWBY. Until the ability is changed/adjusted or a new one is made, it will remain as NPI when listed on the profile. You are proposing a Wiki-Wide change, that is no where near simple.
Non-Physical Interaction for a physical-based power is crazy whaIt will still be a downgrade since they will only have elemental, and not immaterial or incorporeal.
I mean until she doesnt, and she gets smacked out of her semblance. She still has some form of mass that she can be hurt by.She turns into a cloud of molecules when she uses her semblance, she doesnt have to think to do anything
No way bro is tryna technicality thisFor the person in the front with the industrial strength earplugs; hitting someone who has elemental intangibility is still NPI
I mean until she doesnt, and she gets smacked out of her semblance. She still has some form of mass that she can be hurt by.