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We have a possible 8-B upgrade for Pre-Timeskip characters, and a possible 8-A upgrade for Haven Battle/Post-Haven characters. I'll be explaining why for both, and would like for us to come to an agreement on my reasons and the calc being used. After we discuss if the below is alright, we can move onto to the scaling.
8-A Upgrades
So I was going through Weiss' page and noticed this calculation on her profile. Which is her reason for being High 8-C+, which appears fine to me. Now the calc list that the feat is 20.8 Tons, but it's divided by three (6.93 Tons) since Weiss did this feat by shooting three fireballs at once. This makes sense, and I think this should work in the other direction as well.
As Weiss' fireball attacks is fueled by dust, and you can see her putting the dust in her weapon here. Weiss in this scene, shoots out six fireballs before throwing out the three fireballs that would perform the 20.8 Ton feat. Now assuming that was all of the fire dust she had in that canister, that would mean that the entire canister has a energy value of 6.93 x 9 = 62.37 Tons or 8-B+.
You can count the fireballs yourself here.
Now if you look here. That container she takes the dust from has four other canisters of fire dust, excluding the one she'll take from it. Ignoring the other dust, as we don't know how much energy they'd have. Those four canisters would have a energy value of 62.37 x 4 = 249.48 Tons or 8-A.
I'm bringing this up because Weiss, in this same battle, will end up throwing multiple containers of this dust into the Queen Lancer... And it does nothing to stop it. I'm purposing that the Queen Lancer have 8-A durability, via tanking an explosion which was made with four canisters of fire dust. With a single canister being 62.4 Tons.
There are other dust in there, but like I said we don't know how much energy they'd add to the explosion. Along with the fact there could be more canisters of fire dust in the other containers, though we don't know for sure. So I believe 249.48 Tons as a low end should be alright.
And I'll point out this isn't a heat/fire feat, which wouldn't scale physically. The three fireballs Weiss made shattered rocks which was calculated at 8-B. So this does indeed scale to the Queen Lancer who tanked four times the amount of fire dust that a single canister holds. The Queen's Lancer AP will still scale to Weiss' dura, but will have 8-A durability.
The inverse square law, I know someone will bring it up. "The character is face-hugging/bear-hugging the bomb/explosion source or standing/sitting/crouching right on top of it or directly adjacent to it and the bomb/explosion source happens to be smaller than them" The Queen Lancer is far bigger than the explosion source, and it explodes right next to it. According to our rules with how close the Queen Lancer is and being far bigger than the source, we can scale it to the full yield of the blast.
Also the explosion is likely much stronger than 249.48 Tons, so treating it as if it only took a 249.48 Tons should be fine.
In terms of consistency, Weiss has a 8-A feat she uses with her Ice Dust here. This didn't scale to anyone as it was a temperature feat, but it shows that 8-A levels of energy is possible for Volume 6 characters. And far stronger characters like the Maidens scale to Low 7-C, possibly 7-C.
Also I've made a blog about all of this Queen Lancer stuff here, so we can link that to the pages instead of a thread.
8-B Upgrades (Rejected)
Now there is a calc I made that could use some attention. Basically this calc finds the Kinetic Energy of a Nevermore during the Fall of Beacon. These results are 8-B, and would scale to the students during Volume 3. As Nora is shown to be capable of injuring this Nevermore, and Sage and Yatsuhashi are able to slice off its head.
And beforehand Ruby was shown to injure the Nevermore and even push it back.
This would upgrade most Volume 3 characters to 8-B. And this ironically fits with the 8-A feat that higher tier characters might scale to. And Weiss herself has an 8-B feat, though it was divided by three as she used three fireballs to perform it. But still, the rating by itself shouldn't be any issue.
This is far more simple than the 8-A stuff. Same as above, let's discuss if this is alright and
Scaling List
Edit: Here is a full list of the changes I'm purposing.
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