Rule Violation Reports (New forum)

[PrinceofPein]

I am sorry for getting this badly condescending, I am, but I do not appreciate you not acknowledging that your arguments are already addressed or irrelevant. You have repeatedly just ignored the material of the thread! My language was toxic, and I think it was wrong, but genuinely, you were not contributing to the thread! You were ignoring the material and arguments of it!

Like I said, me providing my argument and not agreeing with your conclusion is not me ignoring the material of the thread.
Because I do not agree with you, I should acknowledge that my arguments are irrelevant?
Are you even hearing yourself at all?
You were wrong, not think, you were wrong.

Pein, seriously, I asked you to read the blog, and you did not. How is that not frustrating?

You saying someone lacks reading comprehension is an irony.
Please read what I am saying.
I did not agree with your blog =/= I did not read it.
The blog is your opinion and not facts, leave it at that, people can disagree with you, you need to accept that fact now.

once again, like I said let the mods decide.

 

[Tyranno223]

I did not agree with your blog =/= I did not read it.
The blog is your opinion and not facts, leave it at that, people can disagree with you, you need to accept that fact now.

Last comment on the matter since I agree staff should evaluate. You
A. Did not make this at all clear. I cannot read your mind. You made no reference to the already present rebuttals to the material you posted. It wasn't even new, I'd already made them months ago.

B. You already displayed a poor willingless to read the thread in your first two posts. The summary both containted an insistence to read the blog and a present rebuttal to the point you presented.

C. Your presented material was already rebutted. This is a seriously damning point, why post already rebutted stuff if you had read it? If you had addressed the rebuttal, there would be no confusion. Either you didn't read it properly or you ignored it. That is not contribution, that is obstruction.

 

[Antvasima]

Tyranno223 is generally a constructive member of this community, and I do not think that he went far enough in his harsh language to warrant a punishment here.

 

[Antvasima]

https://vsbattles.com/threads/strongest-one-punch-man-discussion-thread.107591/post-6862237

Reporting this guy for whatever this was lol

He was just ranting and saying f-ing a lot, so that likely only warrants a warning to stop in itself.

He has a sordid history of this kind of stuff (albeit usually when provoked to some degree), so maybe a month or few month ban would work, especially given more recent behaviour.

This, however, is severe enough to warrant a ban.

 

[Tyranno223]

Tyranno223 is generally a constructive member of this community, and I do not think that he went far enough in his harsh language to warrant a punishment here.

Thank you for the support Ant!

Just as a counterpoint if I may ask, at what point can someone post here for obstruction?

While I do not think Pein has done enough to deserve a warning or anything really, I am of the opinion he has just been largely obstructive to the thread he and I quarrelled in.

I just want to ask in case it feels like its come to a point where I need to post here.

 

[PrinceofPein]

Tyranno223 is generally a constructive member of this community, and I do not think that he went far enough in his harsh language to warrant a punishment here.

So anyone can keep throwing around "you lack reading comprehension"
Please when it comes to rule violation let's be objective.
If everyone argues the way he does this will not be a conducive place to make a hobby

Edit: the first two post is me saying I have not read the blog but his summary and my next post is me providing my argument and I have not said any other argument in the thread since then.
The first 2 post are like 2 lines each without any argument, so I will like to see why he is being defensive when people disagree with him.
Anyone who disagrees is being obstructive is a funny stance to take in a battle boarding site.

 

[Tyranno223]

The first 2 post are like 2 lines each without any argument, so I will like to see why he is being defensive when people disagree with him.
Anyone who disagrees is being obstructive is a funny stance to take in a battle boarding site.

Pein, the first two lines were you coming in and saying the thread is invalid for erroneous reasons and then admitting you didn't read the blog before then making it clear you poorly read the OP.

You are being obtuse. I have been disagreed with and have changed my opinion on various things on this wiki. I removed tier 5 from LotR after arguing for it, argued against anything higher than tier 2 until convinced otherwise, and argued against LotR being above Low 1-C until standard changes made it suggestible. Heck, one of the staffs I ping most is Bambu who I appreciate for being critical of my revisions.

Pein, there is serious issues with how you entered that thread and serious issues with the posts you made. Stop pretending as if there is nothing legitimate about my outrage. By your points, we need not even properly read a thread before contributing to it.

Edit: oops in the third paragraph.

 

[Vzearr]

He has a sordid history of this kind of stuff (albeit usually when provoked to some degree), so maybe a month or few month ban would work, especially given more recent behaviour.

Yeah, this warrants a flat out ban for 3-6 months imo.

 

[Vzearr]

I honestly wanted to let this go since I do not take offence with things like this, which is why I am just making this report now.
I wish to report @Tyranno223
He has a way of positing his opinion as some sort of facts and dislikes it when people disagrees with him.
Here in his single reply to me, he adds statements that undermine the other person's intelligence

To which I called him out on his attitude

Which he gave a half assed apology, admitted he is being condenscending and doubled down on his said attitude to other people's argument

Certainly it is not a serious rule violation but insulting and doubling down is certain an offence regardless

Eh, someone telling him to be more kind would at most be warranted here. I don't think a warning is needed here.

Edit: Apologies for not putting my two replies into one post.

 

[PrinceofPein]

Exchanging words with you is pointless, I will come again, me not agreeing with you is not the same as I did not read your blog, after I read the blog, I provided arguments which you did not read, which is why I was also not interested in the whole arguments again.
You have absolutely no reason to say someone lacks reading comprehension, if you feel frustrated by someone, bring it to the RvR for the mods to decide if I was being obtuse or not

 

[Tyranno223]

if you feel frustrated by someone, bring it to the RvR for the mods to decide if I was being obtuse or not

Very well.

I suppose I'll make a report that Pein came into the thread in question and first made post that was entirely unconstructive, the contents already being addressed in the OP and blog.

Tolkien Tier High 1-A+ and 0 Proposal

Many thanks to Ultima for helping me with this project! This is a cosmology expansion for Tolkien's Legendarium that proposes Eru as tier 0 and the Ainur in their "Prior to entering Eä" key as High 1-A+...

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When confronted, they did not claim any error in their activity and instead simply claimed that they did no wrong as they were repeating the summary. This is in spite the summary containing a rebuttal of their first post.

Tolkien Tier High 1-A+ and 0 Proposal

Many thanks to Ultima for helping me with this project! This is a cosmology expansion for Tolkien's Legendarium that proposes Eru as tier 0 and the Ainur in their "Prior to entering Eä" key as High 1-A+...

vsbattles.com

After that point, they then delayed the the thread by stating they were preparing a rebuttal after reading the blog. I was already displeased with them at this point, but said I was fine waiting.

Tolkien Tier High 1-A+ and 0 Proposal

While Tolkien's faith influenced his writing, the tier justification stands on its own based on the source material's explicit descriptions. high 1-A+ placement for the Ainur is also well-supported by their described abilities and relationship to sub-creation, while still maintaining a clear...

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Tolkien Tier High 1-A+ and 0 Proposal

While Tolkien's faith influenced his writing, the tier justification stands on its own based on the source material's explicit descriptions. high 1-A+ placement for the Ainur is also well-supported by their described abilities and relationship to sub-creation, while still maintaining a clear...

vsbattles.com

(Two posts here. One shows my frustration and declining opinion, while the other shows a reminder to Pein from that I believed Grace was closing, it was in fact already past, but that they should be fine to post since the thread needs to stay open. I was waiting on the belief they would provide genuine criticism).

They then made a post that was entirely already answered in the blog or already accepted on previous threads. Pein makes the claim he was just stating his opinion. That is no issue in and of itself, but he did so while ignoring everything despite claiming to read the material. That is not constrictive, it is obstructive, especially considering this was a delaying matter.

Overall, I am of the opinion Pein is being overly obstructive in this thread.

I do not want to issue a warning or anything, but I want to make a note of their behaviour and activities in case this is repeated or has already been repeated.

Edit: I now see that they already have one warning for disruptive behavior. Perhaps another would not be amiss.

 

[Antvasima]

I do not think that Pein deserves a warning for disagreeing with you and possibly misunderstanding.

 

[Antvasima]

Yeah, this warrants a flat out ban for 3-6 months imo.

Maybe a 3 months ban then as a compromise solution?

 

[Tyranno223]

I do not think that Pein deserves a warning for disagreeing with you and possibly misunderstanding.

Sure, no problem with that. Like I wrote, I was mostly posting that to make a note of what I believed to be disruptive behavior. I'll stop posting here now unless asked to again.

 

[Catzlaflame]

I support a 3 month ban for Dbz. Their manner of speech is so unnecessarily rude, and even if he was “provoked” the retaliation is far worse than what people said to them.

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Regarding Pein and Tyrano — i will reiterate what I have said in the past: People are allowed to feel however they want about a thread unless it is objectively out of spite.

Tyrano is saying that Pein is repeating arguments already countered in the blog… but Pein is saying he’s providing a different perspective. You are both entitled to those opinions.

Tyrano if you genuinely believe Pein is just repeating arguments (not saying he is, I haven’t read the blog obviously) what you need to do is: (1) Reply to arguments for as long as you are willing to do so (2) Put Pein down as disagreeing (3) move on. We have staff for this very reason, it’s them who are going to pass or not pass a thread, so you have literally no reason to start being rude. Again, I don’t know if your claims that his posts lack substance are true, but that doesn’t mean you should insult him. Let staff decide who is right.

To add on to that, I don’t think he was being obstructive. Obstructive goes back to what I said earlier about objectively spite responses (and some other circumstances)… but Pein is stating his stance, and defending it from what I can see — no violations there.

TLDR: no action against either user.

 

[Tyranno223]

Tyrano is saying that Pein is repeating arguments already countered in the blog… but Pein is saying he’s providing a different perspective. You are both entitled to those opinions.

Tyrano if you genuinely believe Pein is just repeating arguments (not saying he is, I haven’t read the blog obviously) what you need to do is: (1) Reply to arguments for as long as you are willing to do so (2) Put Pein down as disagreeing (3) move on. We have staff for this very reason, it’s them who are going to pass or not pass a thread, so you have literally no reason to start being rude. Again, I don’t know if your claims that his posts lack substance are true, but that doesn’t mean you should insult him. Let staff decide who is right.

For the record, I was responding cordially for a good while. It wasn't until it was, at least from my perspective, a third time that Pein didn't read the material that I got upset. I also did put them down in the disagree section and I didn't state that disagreement was in and of itself a bad thing. I have apologised for the extent to which I got condescending in language and for getting insulting, but I do believe my frustrations are at least justified. At the very least, they admitted not to reading the blog before their initial post in their second post, and made it rather evident that they didn't read the summary properly for the reasons I listed. The third post can be contested, but I'm planning to drop the matter after today.

Sorry for any disruptions caused by all this.

 

[LephyrTheRevanchist]

Yeah, this warrants a flat out ban for 3-6 months imo.

Maybe a 3 months ban then as a compromise solution?

3 months is fine with me, given the multiple crash outs

Regarding Pein and Tyranno, I'm in th same boat as Catzlaflame

Also a reminder that the 2 weeks ban for @Shiedaisthepeak hasn't been applied.

 

[Maverick_Zero_X]

3 months for Dbz is fine with me, especially considering this is far from an outlier for him.

 

[CodeCCLL]

Is posting such images a violation of the rules? If so, and no one has reported Robo for this before, I'm reporting Robo for this.

 

[Mr._Propeller_Hat]

Is posting such images a violation of the rules? If so, and no one has reported Robo for this before, I'm reporting Robo for this.

I deleted the message and the quoted messages. I'll just wait for the others opinion on this matter.

 

[Planck69]

Not the worst thing that could've been posted there, but it is fetish art, albeit mild. A warning maybe?

 

[Catzlaflame]

Although not explicitly pornographic (which is what the rules technically prohibit):

Do not post links to pornographic images or videos.

I think the implications are clear enough here.

@Robo432343 Please don't post weird stuff on the forum. There are minors on here, and people who don't care to see shit like that (understandably so).

 

[Dereck03]

If sharing such things is considered worth rvt then a warning would be fine in case robo has not shared something similar previously.

 

[ByAsura]

Since 6 staff agree, I'll apply a 3 month ban to DBZ.

 

[Antvasima]

Since 6 staff agree, I'll apply a 3 month ban to DBZ.

You seem to have forgotten to ban his wiki account as well.

Antvasima

vsbattles.fandom.com

 

[ByAsura]

Done.

 

[Robo432343]

@Roirr posted some creepy and disgusting words into @Floxiaaa wall

 

[Dereck03]

I have translated the message and it was literally something that has no justification whatsoever, whether it was a joke or not. I have taken the decision to ban Roirr permanently. If others decide is too harsh, which i don't think it's based on what they said then it can be discussed.

I've deleted the message by the way, so only administrators can see it.

 

[OneBleachHurricane]

I have translated the message and it was literally something that has no justification whatsoever, whether it was a joke or not. I have taken the decision to ban Roirr permanently. If others decide is too harsh, which i don't think it's based on what they said then it can be discussed.

I've deleted the message by the way, so only administrators can see it.

Would Shiedaisthepeak's message on Floxiaaa's wall also warrant a ban extension?

kız floxia amını yiyim mi
yaaa gilgamesh abi
fiyt fiyt fiyt
laylalylaylalyalylalaylalylylaylalyalylalyll

 

[Dereck03]

Would Shiedaisthepeak's message on Floxiaaa's wall also warrant a ban extension?

They were already reported for this. Though I haven't followed their case so I don't know what the outcome was.

 

[StrymULTRA]

They were already reported for this. Though I haven't followed their case so I don't know what the outcome was.

It was a two weeks ban.

 

[HammerStrikes219]

Is somebody willing to apply a two weeks block to Shieda's forum and Fandom account with a suitable justification text then?

Ant mentioned the 2 week bans for Shieda earlier

 

[Dereck03]

Okay, I've applied the 2 weeks ban.

 

[GrathOfLux]

Hello.

This is an announcement post regarding a recent private report against the user @Sdjlakjh, who was previously temporarily banned recently regarding racially insensitive comments made on-site. Sdjlakjh's ban has been extended indefinitely after an investigation into numerous instances of off-site misconduct, including repeated attempts to destabilise the wiki and pedophilic comments.

Further discussion on this topic is not permitted.

That will be all.

 

[Udlmaster]

This person called LazerDim8000 is for some reason harassing me in DMs.
Apparently trying to dig up dirt on me (though the best they got was a 3 year old post form a deleted r/buddhism thread where I got downvoted by a bunch of Mahayana Buddhists lol) and just in general trying to flame me.

I don't even know who they are, they just seem to be really angry I have any repour?

Edit:

Apparently he's from a Journey to the West thread where I said I was going to be handling JttW and they got so mad at that, that they was going to "say some shit that'll get me kicked out" to quote them.

 

[Antvasima]

What do our other staff members here think about this?

Also, @LazerDim8000 , do you have anything to say for yourself?

 

[Agnaa]

This comment is clearly disparaging, but it is fairly mild.

I'd endorse a ban of 3-21 days.

 

[Antvasima]

Thank you for helping out.

 

[Udlmaster]

Thank you for helping out.

Yeah, so he's not bothered about the ban and is just continuing to spout garbage in my DMs. He's obviously already seen this thread and has still chosen to continue to go after me.

 

[Antvasima]

For how long should we ban him? For 3 to 6 months?