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Ruby Rose vs Sans

Ruby's aura forcefield, dust ammo, and semblance, on top of far superior combat skill is what lets her beat Sans here
 
Wokistan said:
Feeling pain through your aura seems indicative of a less than 100% damage absorption rate on the Aura, unless its like stands in that you just arbitrarily feel pain through it.
Yes thats literally it, you arbitrarily feel pain through it. Thats canonically how it works in-verse. Aura can let a guy take a dip in lava without taking physical damage but still feel the pain of the lava.
 
Forcefields dura still gets ignored so not really helping here.

Dust ammo needs to land a hit to activate.

Far superior combat skill is a horrible reasoning when they have completly different fighting styles and she never faced anything like him
 
WeeklyBattles said:
Yes thats literally it, you arbitrarily feel pain through it. Thats canonically how it works in-verse. Aura can let a guy take a dip in lava without taking physical damage but still feel the pain of the lava.
I need to explain why that would be bad for her in-fight?
 
This thread is confusing.

Anyway:

Sans' attacks wouldn't bypass Aura but would break it rather quickly given that even without soul hax he negs dura up to 7-C (Flowey).

The soul part isn't really a factor because if Ruby is out of Aura she'll be exhausted and will probably be overwhelmed.

Iirc speed amps are fair game, as long as they aren't literally the only factor for the slower character winning (that's what I proposed back then at least)
 
>Dust ammo needs to land a hit to activate.

She can shoot behind or near sans and catch him in the AoE, again, something she has done in character
 
I don't think you even would need a thing of her trying to hit AOE or lead her shots since that's just a really basic tactic. It still seems inferior to the volume of attacks Sans puts out though, as speed or no speed doesn't really help you against a wall.
 
WeeklyBattles said:
>Dust ammo needs to land a hit to activate.
She can shoot behind or near sans and catch him in the AoE, again, something she has done in character
When? The one you gave with ice one was aimed (at his torso as you can obviously see) legs to stop him from moving, which sans can teleport out of.

Everything else is aimed for the upperbody, and wouldn't really hit anything before being out of range.
 
Also unless we just treat it as a gigantic speed advantage you'd be kinda hard pressed to be more skilled than dodging every single hit of someone who knows exactly where and what you'll do over the course of repeating the same fight many, many times and even dodging in your sleep. He was basically hit because his assailant suddenly broke the rules of reality to attack at an impossible time. Isn't something similar to that where Mami gets her skill rating on this site?
 
Well Mami gets her skill rating via outskilling almost everyone in her verse.

But yes one of the main feats is beating Homura despite the latter having a decade of prior knowledge via time loops
 
@Wok Condiering Ruby's speed advantage lets her blitz people who are faster than herself normally, yes, its that big of an advantage.
 
If she didn't disactivate it before going for the schyte attack it would be even better, as she tends to start with that more often then not
 
WeeklyBattles said:
@Wok Condiering Ruby's speed advantage lets her blitz people who are faster than herself normally, yes, its that big of an advantage.
This has never happened
 
If she can do that why not just unequalize speed

Also no amount of speed really helps against a solid wall of attacks
 
Because MHS+ vs HS is a horrible speedblitz even with her amp

Good thing Sans doesnt use solid walls of attacks as the ones he uses have set patterns that can be dodged through and around
 
There's some that you jump or fly over that are.
 
Does her amp have a multiplier or something?
 
I'm pretty sure it was explained a lot os times weekly but Ill do it again.

Stuff like speed difference needed to oneshot and speedblitz vary from verse to verse, which is why we have a standard amount. Her becoming fast enough to blitz someone in her verse doesnt mean much unless there is something to back up the fact that it is a X10 speed amp.
 
Also, on the topic of gravity manip:

Her lifting strength would not help if he alters gravity in a direction like sideways or up to give himself a predictable shot, as she would not have anything to base herself on to just make herself not float. Think about someone floating in space, no matter how strong they are they're still unable to really do much to alter their own direction due to no base to push off of. There's a reason why Kharn loses to being thrown off a planet.

On the topic of speedblitz, it varies with the distance. At close range you don't even need a 2X advantage to have clear superiority, as IRL fighters can attest to, but at 4km out even 10x isn't much.
 
im not sure ruby would be able to deal with gravity manipulation

but if aura is one's soul then shouldn't sans' attacks be even more effective since his main target is literally plastered all over ruby's body?
 
Aura is a forcefield made by the soul, but it isn't the soul.

Otherwise everyone in RWBY would survive soul destruction because you don't die when your Aura is depleted
 
Theworldsaddestraisinbox said:
but if aura is one's soul then shouldn't sans' attacks be even more effective since his main target is literally plastered all over ruby's body?
aura isnt one's soul, its a projection, its not literally made of her soul otherwise all RWBY characters can regenerate their soul
 
So lets go with about 2X? At the starting range that is not that significant.
 
WeeklyBattles said:
Theworldsaddestraisinbox said:
but if aura is one's soul then shouldn't sans' attacks be even more effective since his main target is literally plastered all over ruby's body?
aura isnt one's soul, its a projection, its not literally made of her soul otherwise all RWBY characters can regenerate their soul
k, thanks. been literally a year since i watched RWBY
 
4X at hundreds of meters is still less than you'd think.
 
Except how half the attacks you need to fly over?
 
honestly my vote goes to Sans for three reasons

1. he. isn't gonna underestiamte Ruby for being a teenager (he saw his friends make that mistake)

2. Ruby has had no exprience with danmaku (aside from a group of machine guns here and there)

3. i just don't see Ruby lasting long enough to wear Sans down

unless Ruby's deus ex eyes activates i see sans taking it 8.5 time out of ten
 
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