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To be able to watch someone use infinite speed attacks and then argue he won't be fast enough to react to attacks that aren't even infinite speed sounds asinine without elaboration
 
To be able to watch someone use infinite speed attacks and then argue he won't be fast enough to react to attacks that aren't even infinite speed sounds asinine without elaboration
he can react to it... but he won't be able to be fast enough to dodge... or block multiple wide range Aoe
 
To be able to watch someone use infinite speed attacks and then argue he won't be fast enough to react to attacks that aren't even infinite speed sounds asinine without elaboration
infinite speed can also be equalized btw
 
Steel is the actual translation btw, Kuma is harder than steel and Zoro had no idea about the extents of Kuma durability, especially after being buffed by Vegapunk. Hell he was probably meaning to slash flesh there, not even a metallic substance.
Shouldn't the breath have warned him about it's material? And even then, we have seen Zoro trying to cut metal and failing due to it's dura in the tunnel, if he tries to cut flesh and said flesh has higher dura than his AP the same would happen.
 
if he tries to cut flesh and said flesh has higher dura than his AP the same would happen.
More so if he tries to cut flesh/any other material that exceeds the damage boost of Goken it will result in failure. An opponent can be far above his normal AP and his attacks should still be effective with Goken (Like we saw with Mr. 1)
 
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Shouldn't the breath have warned him about it's material?
No? That's not how Breath works. It has information analysis but it doesn't tell Zoro the substance to which his opponents is composed of.
And even then, we have seen Zoro trying to cut metal and failing due to it's dura in the tunnel,.
This is taken out of context Heavily. Do you have any idea on the durability and the thickness of said tunnel? It's ******* massive and thick.
if he tries to cut flesh and said flesh has higher dura than his AP the same would happen.
Not really, steel no matter how you cut it is gonna be a lot more dense than flesh is.
 
that makes no sense... but ok... with infinite time... what is he doing... his body aint fast enough
I'm seeing this argument of infinite reactions. I don't know why, we have a note on infinite speed fate, but whatever.
he doesn't do that in character..
He's got infinite time to do literally anything. Eventually he's gonna decide to do it.
 
No? That's not how Breath works. It has information analysis but it doesn't tell Zoro the substance to which his opponents is composed of.
This is why he questioned what the material even was in the tunnel as he didn't believe it was so durable that he couldn't cut it.
 
What? it can, why can't it?
Sasaki is the slower one here and thus he isn't affected by speed equal:

The combat speed of that faster character is assumed to be equalized to the combat speed of the slower character. Every other speed the faster character has is reduced by the same multiplier. This includes the speed of any attacks, projectiles, reactions, perception, flight etc.
 
What? it can, why can't it?
Basically, Zoro is rel while Sasaki is MHS with inf speed reactions. If you equalise them then they are both MHS or rel and Sasaki's inf speed would scale proportionally to the equalisation which would just keep it at inf speed.
 
Basically, Zoro is rel while Sasaki is MHS with inf speed reactions. If you equalise them then they are both MHS or rel and Sasaki's inf speed would scale proportionally to the equalisation which would just keep it at inf speed.
Nah, iirc, the speed of the highest is equalized with the lowest, there isnt such a thing of ''Infinite speed reaction'' if speed is equal
 
Basically, Zoro is rel while Sasaki is MHS with inf speed reactions. If you equalise them then they are both MHS or rel and Sasaki's inf speed would scale proportionally to the equalisation which would just keep it at inf speed.
Sasaki doesn't have infinite speed reactions, at least not base Sasaki. Stop spreading misinformation that goes against the profiles.
 
Okay look if we're gonna use shit that's not even on the profiles then I'm gonna do the same thing. So Zoro states that he can cut through a macrocosm, that means he can cut through the multi verse so GG.
 
Sasaki doesn't have infinite speed reactions, at least not base Sasaki. Stop spreading misinformation that goes against the profiles.
Yeah, that's what I was saying. I'm prepared to argue infinite speed if thats the case, but it ain't.

By the way Servants very specifically aren't flesh and blood. Plus servant invulnerability lolnos any normal sword swing zoro does.

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Why would he do nothing with an attack coming at him again? Kojiro isn't Gilgamesh.
 
Why would he do nothing with an attack coming at him again? Kojiro isn't Gilgamesh.
because his body IS SLOW...
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Yeah, that's what I was saying.
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By the way Servants very specifically aren't flesh and blood. Plus servant invulnerability lolnos any normal sword swing zoro does.
Not true in the slightest, Servant's still bleed and very obviously have functioning organs. Also invulnerability also works against normal shit, anything with mystery or a certain amount of age can bypass it, and Zoro's swords all do.
Why would he do nothing with an attack coming at him again? Kojiro isn't Gilgamesh.
Because he's never been shown actually utilizing his intang mid combat to avoid shit? Neither has any Servant.
 
Also considering zoro starts with speed amps and precisely what he needs to win I'd call stomp because Kojiro can't do anything against the amps specifically.
Not true in the slightest, Servant's still bleed and very obviously have functioning organs. Also invulnerability also works against normal shit, anything with mystery or a certain amount of age can bypass it, and Zoro's swords all do
looks at the numerous mentions of servants not being flesh and blood in FGO, to the point where it's said Holmes survived a death rune because he WASN'T flesh and blood

Check your facts.
 
Also considering zoro starts with speed amps and precisely what he needs to win I'd call stomp because Kojiro can't do anything against the amps specifically.



Check your facts.
And look at the numerous showing of Servant's literally needing blood to stay alive and dying from blood loss. They have blood and that's objective, as seen in various mediums. Servant's die from organ destruction and blood loss all the time.
 
Iirc we don't have a fixed gap for speedblitz like we do with one-shots, but i really doubt a speed gap smaller than 3x can speedblitz, and a single speed amp without a multiplier probably isn't going to blitz here as well.
 
Also considering zoro starts with speed amps and precisely what he needs to win I'd call stomp because Kojiro can't do anything against the amps specifically.



Check your facts.
winning because of speed amp, isnt a stomp...
 
Iirc we don't have a fixed gap for speedblitz like we do with one-shots, but i really doubt a speed gap smaller than 3x can speedblitz, and a single speed amp without a multiplier probably isn't going to blitz here as well.
It's 10x for a blitz.
And look at the numerous showing of Servant's literally needing blood to stay alive and dying from blood loss. They have blood and that's objective, as seen in various mediums. Servant's die from organ destruction and blood loss all the time.
looks at Arash surviving a wound that would've easily nuked several vital organs long enough to shoot down the Lion Kinf's shit in the Camelot Singularity
Well, that and the fact we have the nasty tendency to go with whatever is newest, and it's pretty consistent
 
Sasaki doesn't have infinite speed reactions, at least not base Sasaki. Stop spreading misinformation that goes against the profiles.
Ohhh then lets go with that. Now you need at least 4D soul attack to damage servants.

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And affect someone who is not part of the regular system Acausality type 4

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