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Robot Bears Speed Upgrade

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Okay, this hasn't happened before because we were too skeptic over it, but I think we should stop asking for further confirmation.

The purpose of this thread is to upgrade the speed of Bartholomew Kuma and the Pacifistas to Speed of Light with laser beams. Maybe this would apply to Post-Timeskip Franky as well.

No, Kuma's speed with Pad Ho and that shit isn't something I want to mess with yet.

The reason is quite simple, all of those lasers are based on Borsalino's powers, and there's not a single anti-feat to disprove it, actually. In fact, everything suggests these are the same lasers.

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As you might know at this point, Borsalino's lasers and light attacks are considered lightspeed here.

Vegapunk developt the Pacifista's technology based on Kuma's body and Kizaru's light powers. That's why they can use lasers both a regular Pacifista and Kuma.

In the scans above you can see people stating about the laser beams too many times to not mean anything. In fact, when Kizaru appears in the battlefield they did no difference between his lasers and those of a Pacifista. X Drake also confirmed that a Pacifista does use Kizaru's laser, saying that Vegapunk managed to use such power in his creations.

Franky's case is debatable as he found the design in Vegapunk's home that might not be the same he used for the Pacifistas, but Caesar was completely interested in getting his technology because it was Vegapunk's, not like Vegapunk's even.

There's no counter-evidence nor anti-feats to dismiss this. The case is pretty self-evident as we have Kizaru as SoL yet the weapons built from his powers aren't.

So to summarize, Kuma and the Pacifistas should get Speed of Light attack-speed with Laser Beams. Franky would get a Likely with Radical Beam.
 
I completely agree with this. All of the evidence points to them being speed of light.

Thanks for taking the initiative to make this thread. I felt that it would never get brought up and acknowledged by regular users
 
Completely agree with this also like you said if is self evident; although I see the reasoning for likely due to the unsurity but considering the radical beam functions exactly like the other two, is sourced from the same place and doesn't have an anti feat going for it (I assume) then I think it's safe to just give it the full rating instead of likely.
 
My main stipulation is that I don't think any of the low tier characters should directly scale to this. But as Calaca mentions there are no anti-feats against it, I think that concern is satisfied.

It should be fine, and I agree with "Likely" for Franky.
 
Like I said in Foxy's thread, any scaling that might come from this will be discussed in its own thread.

This one is purely done for what the OP says.

We seems to be in consensus, so I'll update the profiles accordingly.
 
... Why do I feel like that's code for, "I'm going to calc Pre-Timeskip Zoro to be Relativistic?"
 
I mean, for threads like these that insist on focusing on the feat itself and not the potential scaling that may happen as a result of it, it always seems like there's an ulterior motive to them.

Nobody really cares if a character has a particular attack speed, but when the possibility comes up that they can scale other characters to it then people are insistent on it being accepted.
 
You're the one who wants to be accurate. Denying we have a pattern here would be pedantic.

And no, I have been caring about the verse's speed since years ago. The only reason why I didn't do this before it's because we were on stand-by, asking for more information despite having all we need already. I noticed that and created the thread.

Even if the scaling is rejected, the last two threads are valid.
 
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