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Ritsuka Key Revisions

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Iapitus_The_Impaler

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We have summoning on Ritsuka's page, so we should put a "Varies between Wall Level and Large Planet Level [or whatever the strongest servant she can summon is] via summoning" key on their profile. other characters with summoning have keys for their summoning. Maybe we should clarify that she needs prep or something, but we do know that she should be able to summon at least the servants in the shop precisely. And we should at least give her the servants that they support and get in story.

Just to clarify, They can use summoning in VS threads, correct?
 
GalaxianAegis said:
Would this make her a kind of composite FGO Servant profile via her summons?
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it wouldn't have to by necesity. we need to figure out how exactly we would regard her summoning. if we did, we would probably have to decide which servants she gets. I was discussing it with Jman earlier.

If we decide that she cannot use her summoning in combat, then it should be removed from her profile (even if this is about documentation). If we decide that she can, then we need to talk about the other masters. Maybe its because they only manage it with help of the holy grail
 
Ritsuka doesn't have any of the origin Servants or Prime Gil and Enkidu.

It would be unreasonable to give him a 5-A rating.

4-B with Kiara's NP, maybe.
 
5-A was meerly a place holder for whatever the strongest servant they have access to is. Do you guys agree with the key in general tho?

A seperate thread can be made discussing which servants Ritsuka 'canonically' holds, and what parts are just game play and what is story. I think it can at least be agreed that servants who have interludes and those recieved as rewards for completing singularities (on top of those directly mentioned obviously), are ones Ritsuka canonically holds
 
We can't really have placeholders like that when no Servant has stats like that outside of their NPs.

Even Meltlilith and Passionlip are watered down compared to their CCC incarnations and BB is explicitly stated to be weaker than her CCC counterpart due to not havin the Moon Cell's backup.

Ritsuka canonically holds everyone given the materials, since Servants like EMIYA, Drake, and Fergus all appear in various events whether the player has them or not.
 
I see, so I guess Kiara's NP would be the highest. We do know Enkidu should be just as powerful tho, since even as a normal servant he seems to be largely un nerfed.


I didn't know about that, good to know. I guess they would have all the GO servants then
 
I can see this going both ways, speaking purely on the key revision.

Like, what Iapitus said, we need to decide whether Ritsuka is capable of summoning and sustaining several Servants in combat. Because to be completely fair, they can only do so with the assistance of the FATE system, Chaldea's energy supply and the rayshifting technology. If we assume that every available FGO Servant has already been summoned in Chaldea, then aside from a Command Spell, Ritsuka has no way of actually summoning them to their side on their own.

So are we assuming that the entirety of Chaldea is considered part of Ritsuka's standard equipment? If so, then I agree with the revision - and we'd only have to decide the range before adding it. If not, then I'm doubtful.
 
Isn't Gudao some low-tier magus? How is he going to be able to sustain a servant without the Spiritron drive powering them (which would fall under outside interference iirc, else, Iron Man's entire armory being AI-piloted to fight for him will be standard equipment)?
 
@Gemmy

Gudao is a low-tier magus.

In the storyline, he only brings Mashu and gets help from the local Servants/people before reaching a leyline to call in backup.
 
@John

Interludes usually only have Mashu and a handful of other Servants though, not his full force.
 
In EoR 2 you have both D'eon and Astolfo. Then in EoR 4 Sanson, Mata Hari, Medea(Circe), Robin and Nezha. So you can say the master have them. But you can also argue, that the reason they're materialized is because of fate system.

Edit: Oh and Anderson as a script writer.
 
At the very least, would having Shielder alongside him as they rarely are not together, unless some circumstances happen like the Journey to the West event, be reasonable?
 
Should add atmost wall level to they Page to.

You know while they are weak they are still Magus. And they use Mash shield to smash goetia to dead too.
 
Shouldn't their Endurance be higher? They survived blows from Noble Phantasms quite a few times, managed to survive through an assault by Goetia alone (although protected by Mashu's Shield, still had to hold it to block so they absorbed the blows) and pushes through conditions of advanced necrosis to their limbs to continue fighting (noted during the fight against Tiamat, Gorgon (Ana) chides Mashu for not noticing that their fingers were almost beyond repair due to the toll of mana consumption on their body from supporting Ishtar/Quetzalcoatl and the successive activation of Quetz's strongest Noble Phantasm, yet they were still willing to keep on fighting).
 
Isn't his durability would be higher as well? Because he did use Mash shield in the final battle.
 
None of the servants in any singularity, unless specifically noted to have contracted with him, are his servants.

The ones that arrived to help in the latest fight are summoned presumably by Alaya, and are not in any way related to Chaldea.
 
@Gemmy

The Salomon Servants aren't summoned by Alaya. Or at least, we can't assume. Their appearance could also be Merlin shenanigans, for all we know.
 
There shouldn't be any problem. Listing down the proposed changes (that haven't been implemented):

1. Stamina should be at least "Very High (Perservered despite advanced necrosis and extreme magical energy consumption in Babylonia)"

2. Durability could have "Street level, possibly higher (Survived taking a direct cannonball from a Revolutionary War-era cannon, albeit with broken bones. Managed to tank blows from an unquantifiably weakened Goetia with Lord Camelot.)

3. AP, Dura and combat speed could have a "higher with Command Spells" added due to using them to buff themselves in Salomon.

Are we considering Chaldea as part of their standard equipment or no? Because if not, he can't use his summoning, even if Mash is around for LC to act as a summoning circle.
 
I assume you mean the Command Spells. Who even uses "Command Mantra" anymore?

Anyway, I'm not sure if even the CSs are strong enough to summon a Servant through space-time. If it were so easy, he'd have done it before considering his CS refresh every day.
 
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