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Rimuru Tempest vs Meng Hao (again)
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Does Rimuru have a winning condition
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Although, I'd like to mention that while the Karma stuff is a win condition for Meng, it's not something he'd pull right off the bat. He'd probably pull it when he realizes what's Rimuru's deal, but he could still lose till then if Rimuru has something that could kill him for good.
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Eh... I guess "Soul Corridors substitute Karmic Threads" didn't quite get across to anyone, but eh, whatever. Out and unsubscribed again.
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Yes because they do not subtitute Karma threads as you claim, and were already brought up. That was already taken into account and dealt with, if you read above you would have seen that..... Also this is kinda the 2nd time you come after you said you "unsubscribed and left us".....suspicious OwO
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I vote Stomp too can't fight that and also fix Meng Hao's profile to avoid confusion
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Meng fra
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So for now :
Meng Hao :
- 9 votes : Me, Zack, Kon, Sage, Ricsi, Karmicto, Setsuna Tenma, Planck69, Udlmaster
- 5 stomps : Milly, Elizhaa, Ricsi (he says it's either Stomp or Meng fra), Jaw201, MrDrProf
Rimuru : 0 (seems like RatherClueless didn't actually intend to vote for him, hence the strikethrough.........)
Grace starts I guess.
Meng Hao :
- 9 votes : Me, Zack, Kon, Sage, Ricsi, Karmicto, Setsuna Tenma, Planck69, Udlmaster
- 5 stomps : Milly, Elizhaa, Ricsi (he says it's either Stomp or Meng fra), Jaw201, MrDrProf
Rimuru : 0 (seems like RatherClueless didn't actually intend to vote for him, hence the strikethrough.........)
Grace starts I guess.
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What's Rimuru's wincon?
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Killing Meng before he uses Karma, I guess
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Is he able to do that?
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Idk
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Yea of course he can be kileld without severing his Karmic Connections. When you cut Karma connections you get Existence Erasure-ed, but you can kill people without severing Karma obviously (or else everybody would have EE in the verse >_>).Elizhaa said:
Specifically talking about Meng now, to kill him basically you gotta exterminate him both in soul and body at the same time. His soul is reliant on the Eternal Larva tho, if it's not destroyed the soul dosen't die, and if the soul dosen't die the Larva isn't destroyed. (his soul can also apparently regen btw, but take that with a grain of salt.
In case he gets killed in body and soul (and mind) there's still that Mid Godly regen to save his rear I guess.
Hopes that answers your question
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He doesn't have 1B immortality, that's just for existence erasure. Anything else is fair game.
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Could it even be added? Since some people thought it was stomp.
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There was killing Meng before he uses Karmic Severing
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Realistically, the only way Rimuru wins, is if he[Meng Hao] has no way to resist time stop [rather, being able to move in stopped time if someone else besides him stops it, (like if he wasn't prepared for the time stop)] or if Karmic Severing isn't an instantaneous effect which could possibly allow Rimuru to blitz in time stop due to his massive speed buff in time stop. Otherwise, I don't see a win con for Rimuru.
EDIT: Here is an even better question, does EoS Rimuru even have a wincon if he was to face him?
EDIT: Here is an even better question, does EoS Rimuru even have a wincon if he was to face him?
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He can move during a time-stop, yeah
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EoS Rimuru is 2B, no? He should just nuke High 4-C Meng pretty easily.
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So then the question about Karmic Severing, is it an instantaneous activation, and an instantaneous effect, or is there a way to out speed the attack? Because if the effect isn't instantaneous, there *MIGHT* be a chance for Reactive Evolution to do something, but that argument was struck down in the past, which is why I don't think its a valid wincon. Speed blitz also seems unlikely due to the fact that Meng Hao basically moves at least at the same speed as Rimuru does in stopped time, in normal time flow, so they would be at around the same speed, if not Rimuru being slightly faster, but not enough to really speed blitz.
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It takes some seconds to complete, but the target is paralyzed while it happens iirc. Could take more time depending on how much Karma one has.
Does he still get the speed amp if the opponent resists the time stop?
Does he still get the speed amp if the opponent resists the time stop?
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I don't remember him fighting Rimuru's 2B key, Meng was never 2B afaik.Jaw201 said:
2B Rimuru's AP is massively higher, so I don't think Meng could do anything before getting nuked.
