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Like I said before, I definately can't see how a reduction of 400000K can make such a massive tiering drop
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Revising the MCU. Part 2
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Multiplicative values skews things massivly as every part of the overall number matters far more to the final result. Though perhaps the math is wrong and if thats the case someone should redo it.
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Isn't the calc itself for the full on beam, too? A good majority for it got through Thor.
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@risci also true
@Blue I think your underselling the 400000 value, its nearly halving the original calc.
@Blue I think your underselling the 400000 value, its nearly halving the original calc.
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I think halving the calc would be more on the 7-A scale than low 7-B
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Maybe it's wrong, if so it should be redone, id do it but I have no talent with math.
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Me neither
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Oh yeah, Surturs swing parted the clouds on asgard a bit, would that increase his AP or is that just calc stacking
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We could calc the individual value for the ke of swinging his sword and parting the clouds but we couldn't add them together AFAIK... we'd just take the more consistent value
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Consistency doesn't matter too much unless it is shown to beyond surturs pay grade (6-C, since he died from that attack)
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Actually in the above discussion we learned the explosion wasn't his attack it was him cracking the crystaline core of asgard that exploded, destroying him and asgard in the process...
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Well either way, if we get a 7-A calc we ain't dropping it due to "it being an outlier"
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If nothing else supports it? If we can't find anything else supporting the rating? We very well could for consistencies sake. Saying that I highly doubt we'll get 7a values from either calc.
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He was 4 KM already. I doubt we will get 7-A for the cloud parting anyway, likely 7-C
Also, it seems the calcer in question is here
From what I remember, he was getting hit by the beam itself
If the beam calc is lower we still have 7-B due to the storm feat
Also, it seems the calcer in question is here
From what I remember, he was getting hit by the beam itself
If the beam calc is lower we still have 7-B due to the storm feat
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The storm feat needs to be redone doesn't it? I thought most of thors storm feats were out the window due to new standards...Could be confused though, a bit tired.
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No, the wakanda storm re calc that he did on the last thread
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It was, all the energy was coming through the beam
Also @Newdingo, we got 1 final feat which can make a difference which would be him staggering surtur. It also seems that the star calc was made with the whole star, which may be the reason why they are low 7-b and not higher
btw, they are 7-B for the wakanda storm feat from last thread btw
Also @Newdingo, we got 1 final feat which can make a difference which would be him staggering surtur. It also seems that the star calc was made with the whole star, which may be the reason why they are low 7-b and not higher
btw, they are 7-B for the wakanda storm feat from last thread btw
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@Dino W.
It's extremely unlikely that the force was outputted by the full star size, since the shots only show the energy bast coming from the beamed area alone
It's extremely unlikely that the force was outputted by the full star size, since the shots only show the energy bast coming from the beamed area alone
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The previous calcs have assumed that every bit of power outputted by every square meter of the entire star is channeled through the beam. This is extremely unlikely because the rest of the star stays bright even when the beam is fired, indicating that there is still power going to those areas of the star.
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I don't know this looks like we should drop the calc, not all the power is going through the beam and the blast that is hitting thor is CLEARLY not the full star. That means they are still 7-B. All we got left is recalcing the witch leaving london in a storm and Hulk staggering surtur before we donwgrade them as the anime fans celebrate as the hated MCU gets downgraded because they want to make their anime verse look stronger (By the way this is a joke and i am not being serious and not trying to diss eastern stuff)
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Did you use the accepted mass?? That was 301013637600 kilograms (Which THAT is 331810737.468975) btw
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looking over the scene I doubt we'll get much from the stagger, he doesn't actually cause any harm to sutur beyond pushing him back slightly, sutur then flicks him like a bug... though with that mass might be good.
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No, his 4 KM height, he got bigger than his base when hulk hit him
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It's on surturs page
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oof
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Where??ByAsura said:
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https://www.fxguide.com/fxfeatured/building-character-with-thor-part2/ According to this article "During the sequence Mega Surtur grew. He ranged from roughly 800m when he first appeared to about 4,000m when he finally destroyed Asgard" meaning he slowly grew, so we would have no way of determining his height when Hulk staggered him.
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We have 2 shots of his size which was the size when hulk staggered him, we can size calc that
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