Removing the Momoshiki/Kinshiki>Kaguya rule.

[Deceived3596]

Guy's statement literally means jack shit, Guy isn't a sensory ninja, he can't measure the power-levels of others, his statement shouldn't be taken this seriously, especially to the point of acting like it trumps all the established feats and scaling within Boruto that completely contradict what he is saying.

 

[Darsh748]

And by the last chapter Naruto clears off his rustyness and Sasuke gets his chakra back. Furthermore, Naruto had his battle sense dulled, that has nothing to do with his stats.

Evidence about it?

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

Evidence about it?

It’s in the short 10 chapter Gaiden series. You’ll find it if you try to provide evidence to back your own claims based on misinterpretation.

 

[Shadowbokunohero]

also kurama's statement about naruto being rusty has nothing to do with strength, it has to do with battle sense, how you approach a fight, Naruto was caught off guard because of negligence.

 

[Darsh748]

this is massively taking what Shin was saying out of context.

Shin was talking about the Limitations of self growth in relation to evolving through your off spring, in a similar way how evolution weeds out the weak until the best version of that specific thing exist.

Shin was talking about their strength here exclusively:

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

Shin was talking about their strength here exclusively:

No where in this scan does it mention strength. Stop asserting your headcanon.

 

[Shadowbokunohero]

Shin was talking about their strength here exclusively:

the context here is that Sasuke is putting himself in harms way instead of what shin does earlier when he uses his own clone/son as a meat shield.
this is what Shin see's as a weakness

 

[Deceived3596]

Shin was talking about their strength here exclusively:

......

No he wasn't, that's your assumption he's saying that, you have to prove that assumption.

 

[Darsh748]

No where in this scan does it mention strength. Stop asserting your headcanon.

No matter how much evidence I put on the table you will continue to ignore context and call it a headcanon

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

you will continue to ignore context

Irony

the context here is that Sasuke is putting himself in harms way instead of what shin does earlier when he uses his own clone/son as a meat shield.
this is what Shin see's as a weakness

This is the proper context.

 

[Darsh748]

also kurama's statement about naruto being rusty has nothing to do with strength, it has to do with battle sense, how you approach a fight, Naruto was caught off guard because of negligence.

I'm talking about he's not worried about an invasion by someone stronger than Kaguya in the future, if he really wanted to get stronger he would have done something but it turns out he's only sat on his ass all these years so his battle sense has gone rusty and it's an evidence that he hasn't gotten stronger but also not that he's gotten weaker that's my whole point

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

battle sense has gone rusty and it's an evidence that he hasn't gotten stronger but also not that he's gotten weaker that's my whole point

Battle sense has nothing to do with stats, so this is objectively false

 

[Darsh748]

Battle sense has nothing to do with stats, so this is objectively false

And you keep ignoring the obvious things, if he had been active all these years this wouldn't have happened

 

[Shadowbokunohero]

And you keep ignoring the obvious things, if he had been active all these years

You realize Naruto has only been hokage for like 5 to 6 years at this point not decades lol

 

[Darsh748]

You realize Naruto has only been hokage for like 5 to 6 years at this point not decades lol

We don't know at what point he started to get rusty, him becoming hokage may have only contributed more to this and not that it is the beginning of this phase

 

[Deceived3596]

And you keep ignoring the obvious things, if he had been active all these years this wouldn't have happened

He isn't.

You haven't actually provided proper evidence for your interpretations at all, the statement you did give doesn't inherently prove your point at all, you have to prove that interpretation you're exclaiming is more likely compared to the interpretations of Arc, you haven't done that.

Until you do you can't claim he's ignoring evidence when you haven't even proved your argument to be more likely.

 

[Shadowbokunohero]

We don't know at what point he started to get rusty, him becoming hokage may have only contributed more to this and not that it is the beginning of this phase

No Naruto would have to be going on missions as is his duty as a Jonin.

 

[UchihaSlayer96]

No Naruto would have to be going on missions as is his duty as a Jonin.

Also to support this, Sasuke never stopped going on missions or being a ninja, and Naruto is still his equal in power, so the statement being about Naruto's battle senses rather than power makes more sense regardless.

 

[Darsh748]

No Naruto would have to be going on missions as is his duty as a Jonin.

Well, in boruto it is said that he never became a jounin so he was a genin going on a jounin mission out there?

 

[Darsh748]

Also to support this, Sasuke never stopped going on missions or being a ninja, and Naruto is still his equal in power, so the statement being about Naruto's battle senses rather than power makes more sense regardless.

Sasuke is also stated to be rusty by Naruto

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

Well, in boruto it is said that he never became a jounin so he was a genin going on a jounin mission out there?

Do you think they restricted what type of missions Naruto could go on

 

[UchihaSlayer96]

Well, in boruto it is said that he never became a jounin so he was a genin going on a jounin mission out there?

He did become a Jonin during the Blank Period, and even worked as an academy instructor alongside Sakura for a short period.

 

[Shadowbokunohero]

Well, in boruto it is said that he never became a jounin so he was a genin going on a jounin mission out there?

yes in the same way he was a genin and slapped the shit out of a guy who was going to drop a moon on the planet.

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

Sasuke is also stated to be rusty by Naruto

No we see that Sasuke’s poor performance was due to him being low on chakra from dimension hopping.

 

[Darsh748]

He did become a Jonin during the Blank Period, and even worked as an academy instructor Sakura for a short period.

This statement is contradicted in boruto so which one is right?

 

[UchihaSlayer96]

Sasuke is also stated to be rusty by Naruto

No, Naruto stated that his performance against Shin was pitiful, which we find out is because he was severely low on chakra due to his dimension hopping.

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

This statement is contradicted in boruto so which one is right?

Can you provide scans proving a contradiction and anyways Whether Naruto was a Genin or Jounin actually just doesn’t matter. Idk why it’s even being discussed.

 

[Darsh748]

that's not how i see it:

 

[Shadowbokunohero]

It doesnt even matter if Naruto was a Jonin or a genin, saying Naruto the hero of the hidden leaf and literally the saviour of the fourth great ninja war in the eyes of many people would be restricted to go on high level missions because of his rank is insane.

 

[Darsh748]

Can you provide scans proving a contradiction and anyways Whether Naruto was a Genin or Jounin actually just doesn’t matter. Idk why it’s even being discussed.

Wait I'll get it

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

that's not how i see it:

You’re omitting the scans where Sasuke mentions it was because he was low on chakra from dimension hopping, the scene where he regains his MS and Rinnegan tomoe.

 

[Shadowbokunohero]

it's mentioned during the Iwabe episode.

 

[AnimesFreak2]

Assuming many things here, Urashiki never watched Kaguya fight against Hagoromo and Hamura, that was never said anywhere, the information he tells Momoshiki and Kinshiki even people who never saw Kaguya knew like Toneri, Urashiki knowing this from other sources is completely feasible as well, another weird thing about this whole story is that Isshiki was never mentioned even though he was the superior of the duo lol

Oh my god....you're only proving @Wrath_Of_Itachi 's point that Naruto fans can't read.....

1. Urashiki DID watch Kaguya vs her Sons...he literally SAYS THIS on the scans I POSTED




2. PROVE with SCANS that someone else told Urashiki this instead of just your headcanon


3. Once again showing me you didn't read Boruto lmao....bruh as far as Kaguya was concerned ISSHIKI WAS DEAD

 

[MinatoSparkle]

Out of curiosity, is there any actual implication that the two of them got a lot stronger?

Naruto was actually stated to train.

And while this is a bit vague, Hokage Naruto's strength was stated to at the "strongest level," which you could say implies he's at his peak of strength.

 

[Nierre]

Agree FRA

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

This probably can be applied ngl

 

[LordGriffin1000]

Delete, delete, delete, delete...

 

[MinatoSparkle]

Delete, delete, delete, delete...

R u able to?

 

[JohnHendrix212]

Never understood how that rule got passed anyway. OP looks good.

 

[LordGriffin1000]

Since multiple staff members and other members agree with the removal, I'm going to go ahead and remove the rule.

Edit: It has been nuked!