Relocating Keys to Top of Profiles

[ImmortalDread]

At present, this is the approach I am taking (or at least the concept I have in mind), but it still requires significant refinement and improvement.

 

[Promestein]

well feel free to edit the standard format page

 

[Colonel_Krukov]

I assume it's too late to say I am opposed to this?

 

[Antvasima]

At present, this is the approach I am taking (or at least the concept I have in mind), but it still requires significant refinement and improvement.

I would prefer if we simply change the header image of our instruction page for how to write character profile pages, along with moving the "Key" section upwards in the instruction text.

 

[Antvasima]

I assume it's too late to say I am opposed to this?

No it is not. Please elaborate.

Should I call for the other bureaucrats and administrators again?

 

[ImmortalDread]

I would prefer if we simply change the header image of our instruction page for how to write character profile pages, along with moving the "Key" section upwards in the instruction text.

Would you mind providing more details about what you have in mind? Your previous statement was rather vague, and I would appreciate a more thorough explanation.

 

[Antvasima]

I meant that the following pages should be changed in terms of structure to as limited a degree as possible. They should simply be updated with the "Key" section change, and that's it.

Standard Format for Character Profiles

When there are multiple versions of a character that are distinct enough to be split into several profiles, whether it is due to the length and complexity of the page or versions from different mediums, then the multiple pages that are created as a result of this have to be linked by a tabber...

vsbattles.fandom.com

Standard Format for Item Profiles

Insert a portrait of the item here. Standard size is 400px thumbnail and the alignment is to the right, but you should adjust the image size if it turns too large or too small, and horizontally aligned images may be placed in the center of a verse page. Here you can add a summary/short info...

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[ImmortalDread]

Unfortunately, I do not have a Word file that would enable me to easily modify and move the desired element to the top. As a result, I am in the process of creating an entirely new image that is modern and improved.

However, if you were to grant me access to modify the standard format for item profiles, I could make a swift adjustment that would satisfy our needs.

 

[ImmortalDread]

 

[Antvasima]

Thank you for trying to help out, but I much prefer an updated version of our current image that shows what the code looks like in Fandom's source editor, as that is what our members are required to use according to our rules in order to avoid lots of formatting errors that other members have to clean up afterwards.

 

[Colonel_Krukov]

I was going to suggest placing it above where it says "tier" so it'd look like this.

Key: Base | 2nd Form | 3rd Form

Tier 8-C | 8-A | 7-A

Name: Firstname Lastname

Looks weird having the tier first then the key imho.

 

[KLOL506]

I was going to suggest placing it above where it says "tier" so it'd look like this.

Key: Base | 2nd Form | 3rd Form

Tier 8-C | 8-A | 7-A

Name: Firstname Lastname

Looks weird having the tier first then the key imho.

Seems weirder to me to place it on top instead of below the Tiers, but I digress.

 

[Robo432343]

is it a good idea to have a dimensionality key for a profile
dimensionality: 5D
tier: Low 1-C
or smth

 

[KLOL506]

is it a good idea to have a dimensionality key for a profile
dimensionality: 5D
tier: Low 1-C
or smth

Nah brother, that's AP and HDE related. Also, derailing.

 

[Antvasima]

Yes, I also think that we should place the tiers first, since that is what our visitors are mainly interested in, and it is more eye-catching.

 

[Antvasima]

Thank you for trying to help out, but I much prefer an updated version of our current image that shows what the code looks like in Fandom's source editor, as that is what our members are required to use according to our rules in order to avoid lots of formatting errors that other members have to clean up afterwards.

Basically, the following overview image just needs to be updated with the new information:

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/File:V2Standard_Character_Format4.png

 

[ImmortalDread]

This is an image, not a word document. So only the owner of the image can edit it or share the file here.

 

[Antvasima]

I meant that I would greatly appreciate if you or somebody else here can structure a new example image in the exact same manner, except for that the "Key:" part is moved upwards within it, and then upload that to our wiki.

 

[IdiosyncraticLawyer]

Bump.

 

[Antvasima]

Well, if we do not get this project properly organised it will likely not be applied, and it is technically not a big problem to keep our keys where they are, especially as we will likely try to initiate our infobox-adding project relatively soon, which will require a lot of resources.

 

[Deagonx]

Well, if we do not get this project properly organised it will likely not be applied, and it is technically not a big problem to keep our keys where they are, especially as we will likely try to initiate our infobox-adding project relatively soon, which will require a lot of resources.

For what it's worth, if Promestein is busy with IRL stuff I am willing to help out too. I may not be staff, but I can start small with staff supervision to ensure it's applied properly, because I believe it would help immensely with readability of profiles.

 

[Promestein]

I said I was ready to go then. I was waiting for people to wrap things up and say I can start.

 

[IdiosyncraticLawyer]

I said I was ready to go then. I was waiting for people to wrap things up and say I can start.

Who made the current image?

 

[Deagonx]

I said I was ready to go then. I was waiting for people to wrap things up and say I can start.

Oh, I apologize for misunderstanding. I think we should be okay to start but Ant would know better than me.

 

[Antvasima]

Well, the issue is that we first need a slightly updated structure overview header image in the following page.

Standard Format for Character Profiles

When there are multiple versions of a character that are distinct enough to be split into several profiles, whether it is due to the length and complexity of the page or versions from different mediums, then the multiple pages that are created as a result of this have to be linked by a tabber...

vsbattles.fandom.com

And then we need to do a small test run with Promestein's Bot account that can easily be reverted in case something goes wrong, in order to confirm that the code works the way that it should.

 

[Promestein]

I already did a test, even if it was a short one; the code is pretty simple and there's not a lot that could go wrong, from what I can see. If anything it just won't work rather than do something it shouldn't.

 

[Antvasima]

Okay. I am just worried about that something will go wrong and mess up lots of pages. I am a rather worried type in general as you already know.

Thanks a lot for helping out in any case.



@The_Divine_Phoenix @Colonel_Krukov @Zaratthustra @ZackMoon1234 @Dark-Carioca @MistaClean @MonkeyOfLife @FinePoint @Propellus

Would any of you be willing to help out with designing a slightly updated explanation image for the top of the following page please?

Standard Format for Character Profiles

When there are multiple versions of a character that are distinct enough to be split into several profiles, whether it is due to the length and complexity of the page or versions from different mediums, then the multiple pages that are created as a result of this have to be linked by a tabber...

vsbattles.fandom.com

 

[Deagonx]

Okay. I am just worried about that something will go wrong and mess up lots of pages. I am a rather worried type in general as you already know.

Thanks a lot for helping out in any case.



@The_Divine_Phoenix @Colonel_Krukov @Zaratthustra @ZackMoon1234 @Dark-Carioca @MistaClean @MonkeyOfLife @FinePoint @Propellus

Would any of you be willing to help out with designing a slightly updated explanation image for the top of the following page please?

Standard Format for Character Profiles

When there are multiple versions of a character that are distinct enough to be split into several profiles, whether it is due to the length and complexity of the page or versions from different mediums, then the multiple pages that are created as a result of this have to be linked by a tabber...

vsbattles.fandom.com

Well with the test run done we should be good to move forward with small batches. The explanation image is a separate issue. I'd hate to delay this unnecessarily.

 

[Antvasima]

Well, we at least need a confirmation that any of our image helpers are willing to update our page structure explanation image, and preferably that somebody is willing to update the structure of the page that I linked to above somewhat, but after that Promestein can continue if she is certain that the code that she currently uses will work properly for this mass-editing task.

 

[MonkeyOfLife]

Okay. I am just worried about that something will go wrong and mess up lots of pages. I am a rather worried type in general as you already know.

Thanks a lot for helping out in any case.



@The_Divine_Phoenix @Colonel_Krukov @Zaratthustra @ZackMoon1234 @Dark-Carioca @MistaClean @MonkeyOfLife @FinePoint @Propellus

Would any of you be willing to help out with designing a slightly updated explanation image for the top of the following page please?

Standard Format for Character Profiles

When there are multiple versions of a character that are distinct enough to be split into several profiles, whether it is due to the length and complexity of the page or versions from different mediums, then the multiple pages that are created as a result of this have to be linked by a tabber...

vsbattles.fandom.com

Umm, is there a copy of that text?

There should be... otherwise it will take a very long time to do/replicate and edit

 

[Antvasima]

I am afraid not, but this is very important, so I would greatly appreciate help with this task.

Standard Format for Character Profiles

When there are multiple versions of a character that are distinct enough to be split into several profiles, whether it is due to the length and complexity of the page or versions from different mediums, then the multiple pages that are created as a result of this have to be linked by a tabber...

vsbattles.fandom.com

 

[Deagonx]

but after that Promestein can continue if she is certain that the code that she currently uses will work properly for this mass-editing task.

Well that's what I'm saying. Updating that page is a separate thing entirely. So I don't thing we should hitch them together and make her wait until we update the image. We should give her the go ahead to try it on small batches, increasing in size slowly over time as we check the pages.

 

[Antvasima]

Okay. I am fine with that solution then. But somebody also really needs to update our explanation/illustration image for proper character page structures, and write a sandbox with slightly updated contents for our character profiles explanation page, as soon as possible.

 

[MonkeyOfLife]

I've tried extracting the texts, I currently don't have time to fix this and organize it but I can try to do it later if no one else will

Spoiler: Standard Format for Character Profiles Text

Fortabbers,youtype/copyinthecodebelow.HereisanexampleofoneintheAvacynprofile.

<tabber>
|-|AngelofHope=[[File:Avacyn_1.png|right|400px]]
|-|ThePurifier=[[File:Avacyn-the-Purifier-MtG-Art.jpg|right|400px]]</tabber>
OR

[[File:Avacyn-the-Purifier-MtG-Art.jpg|right|400px]]<<-Iftabberisnotrequired
*Inthecaseabove,thefilenameswouldbe"Avacyn_1.png"(1)and"Avacyn-the-Purifier-MtG-Art.jpg"(2)
Forquotes,youtype/copyin:{{Quote|Quotesaidbycharacter|Charactername}}
ALWAYSaddthequotebelowtheimagefile/coding.

==Summary==

==PowersandStats=='''[[TieringSystemTier]]:'''

'''[[Name]]:'''

'''[[Origin]]:'''

'''[[Gender]]:'''

'''[[Age]]:'''

'''[[Classification]]:'''

'''[[PowersandAbilities]]:''' [[Ability]]<-(Typingthiswillcreatealinktothespecificabilitypageinquestion.Forexample,typing"[[MartialArts]]"willleadyoutothe"MartialArts"page)

'''[[AttackPotency]]:'''

'''[[Speed]]:'''

'''[[LiftingStrength]]:'''

'''[[StrikingStrength]]:'''

'''[[Durability]]:'''

'''[[Stamina]]:'''

'''[[Range]]:'''

'''[[StandardEquipment]]:'''

*StandardEquipment:*OptionalEquipment:*CanCreate/Summon:

'''[[Intelligence]]:'''

'''StandardTactics:''' (Optional)

'''Weaknesses:'''

'''[[Feats]]:'''

'''NotableAttacks/Techniques:'''
'''Key:'''|'''Key1'''|'''Key2'''<-Thissectionshouldonlybeusedifthereareactuallymultiplekeysforthecharacter.
'''Note:''' Self-explanatory.

==Explanations== (Optional)
==Gallery==
<gallery>
filename<-(Readthepartabove)</gallery>

<

(Typingthisaddsthe"Gallery"heading)

=Others==<-(Typingthisaddsthe"Others"heading)"NotableVictories:""
"NotableLosses:""

"InconclusiveMatches:""

==References==
<-(Typingthisaddsthe"References"heading)
<references/>or{{reflist|2}}(Use{{reflist|2}}iftherearemanyreferenceswithinasinglepage){{discussions}}<-(Typingthisaddsthe"Discussions"headingandthediscussionstemplate)

[[Category:Characters]]
[[Category:Magic:TheGathering]]

[[Category:Tier6]]
[[Category:Tier4]]
ThecategoriesabovearethemostimportantcategoriesforAvacyn'sprofile.

 

[Antvasima]

Thanks a lot for helping out.

I would greatly appreciate if you are willing to handle it please.

 

[Dark-Carioca]

While I do like this new suggestion for easier view in the regards to formatting, it shouldn't be mandatory

I concur with this

 

[Antvasima]

Well, we cannot use random formatting. If we will perform this change, we really will perform this change, and the new format will become mandatory. I will have to highlight an information thread about the change after Promestein and the staff members revising our standard format for character profiles page have finished.

 

[Antvasima]

Well, the issue is that we first need a slightly updated structure overview header image in the following page.

Standard Format for Character Profiles

When there are multiple versions of a character that are distinct enough to be split into several profiles, whether it is due to the length and complexity of the page or versions from different mediums, then the multiple pages that are created as a result of this have to be linked by a tabber...

vsbattles.fandom.com

And then we need to do a small test run with Promestein's Bot account that can easily be reverted in case something goes wrong, in order to confirm that the code works the way that it should.

Well, we at least need a confirmation that any of our image helpers are willing to update our page structure explanation image, and preferably that somebody is willing to update the structure of the page that I linked to above somewhat, but after that Promestein can continue if she is certain that the code that she currently uses will work properly for this mass-editing task.

Okay. I am fine with that solution then. But somebody also really needs to update our explanation/illustration image for proper character page structures, and write a sandbox with slightly updated contents for our character profiles explanation page, as soon as possible.

@Damage3245 @Starter_Pack @Elizhaa @Abstractions @Colonel_Krukov @Shadowbokunohero @Crazylatin77 @Zaratthustra @Just_a_Random_Butler @ElixirBlue @Tllmbrg @Nehz_XZX @Dereck03

I would greatly appreciate if any of you are willing to help out with this please.

 

[MonkeyOfLife]

This ok?

VS Battles Wiki

The VS Battles Wiki is the world's most comprehensive and popular index of statistics and powers for characters and items from all of popular fiction.

vsbattles.fandom.com

 

[Antvasima]

I think that it looks great, yes. Thanks a massive lot for your help.

However, should we change the text "if there are actually multiple keys for the character" to "if there are actually multiple statistic keys for the character" or some improved wording that explains the intended point better?