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Reinhard's boyfriend vs one aztec boi
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And he can control the souls and survive soul destruction showing that he has a pretty big resistance against soul manipulation.
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Correct me if I'm wrong shouldn't Kars be able to copy Mercurius abilities and stuff just not the ones that are 1-a right?
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Does Awaken My Masters play from this thread for anyone else? How do you choose the audio that plays for a thread lol
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Reminder, Kars can tank soul annihilation with zero effort . And his time stop can time stop DIO (who can tank time stops) and the acasual world .
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J-mans point is that Mercurius soul transmutation won't work on Kars. And Mercurius strength being superior to Kars and being able to pulverize him doesn't really matter since Kars can just stop time.
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Whitesnake though . Or MIH suicide bombing . Maybe even BTD . The time stop will work . After the time freeze Kars will have fun adapting .
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I think BTD and Whitesnake mind discs would definitely work dunno about MiH though
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Mih just kills the universe and everything in it .
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But if the opponent is a made out of nothingness how exactly will MiH kill/defeat them?
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Well can he tank universal destruction . And , hell if i know .
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Dunno but based on Mercurius profile his intangibility seems to make him immune to a 3-A universe destruction since no physical damage can affect him because his body made out of nothingness but idk if this means he is unaffected by a low 2-C universe destruction.Anyways my vote is for Kars since he has other abilities that can deal with Mercurius and can copy his abilities and make them better, while Mercurius can't really do anything.
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Yeah he can copy And adapt it at least attempt mimicry .
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Mercurius: 0
Kars: 1 (Dienomite22)
Inconclusive: 3 (Sir Ovens DMUA Iapitus The Impaler)
Kars: 1 (Dienomite22)
Inconclusive: 3 (Sir Ovens DMUA Iapitus The Impaler)
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My vote goes to Snakes. An almost identical matchup (Kemono-dono vs. Novel Kars) was judged overwhelmingly to result in Heydrich's victory (using IKaBey Reinhard), and IKaBey Reinhard is *far* weaker than Mercurius' Sensory (since in Kei's route, despite 4-C Reinhard seriously trying to kill him, Reinhard is unable to). But if we judge solely on Mercurius' merits, he should still be easily able to take this.
First of all, Kars' ability to copy anything would not work against Mercurius. Not only can Kars not properly perceive the source of Mercurius' abilities (and thus not understand them), since Kars isn't 1-A, but, like what was judged in Reinhard v. Kars, even if Kars *could* copy Mercurius' abilities, it wouldn't do him any good because Kars doesn't have the sheer volume of souls required to use them as well as Mercurius (in the case of Mercurius, that number is "every soul to have ever existed").
Secondly, Sensory Mercurius is capable of using Acta Est Fabula. From Habaki's Page, it says that because Habaki is the Sensory of Hajun's Tumour, he's able to use the Tumor's Taikyoku, Shoko Mandala - Yaoyorozu. So if Mercurius actually fought seriously, he could annihilate Kars using, say, Sequere Naturaam, or to be extra thorough, Disce Libens, which not even Kars could escape unscathed, since it annihilates the entire universe.
Thirdly, Kars' most powerful attacks are wholly useless against Mercurius. D4C Ultimate doesn't work on Snakes because Snakes is present in every universe affected by the Throne (which is any universe where he is present, because even if the Sensory were to be brought to a universe outside the Throne's influence, the Sensory is basically a terminal for 1-A Mercurius, who would then incorporate said universe into the Throne, giving him an even greater powerup), so the best that D4C could do is escape to another universe where Snakes can't touch him, in which case Kars would be BFR'ing himself. Made in Heaven Ultimate Requiem is useless because Mercurius is immune to time-based attacks that aren't 1-A.
However, in character, it's unlikely that Kars could actually affect Snakes in such a way that it would prompt him to fight back or do aything, which is Kars' only saving grace - because it hasn't been specified that the two are bloodlusted. If they're both bloodlusted, Snakes instantly wins because his attack power is Outerversal, which not even Kars can sustain a hit from.
First of all, Kars' ability to copy anything would not work against Mercurius. Not only can Kars not properly perceive the source of Mercurius' abilities (and thus not understand them), since Kars isn't 1-A, but, like what was judged in Reinhard v. Kars, even if Kars *could* copy Mercurius' abilities, it wouldn't do him any good because Kars doesn't have the sheer volume of souls required to use them as well as Mercurius (in the case of Mercurius, that number is "every soul to have ever existed").
Secondly, Sensory Mercurius is capable of using Acta Est Fabula. From Habaki's Page, it says that because Habaki is the Sensory of Hajun's Tumour, he's able to use the Tumor's Taikyoku, Shoko Mandala - Yaoyorozu. So if Mercurius actually fought seriously, he could annihilate Kars using, say, Sequere Naturaam, or to be extra thorough, Disce Libens, which not even Kars could escape unscathed, since it annihilates the entire universe.
Thirdly, Kars' most powerful attacks are wholly useless against Mercurius. D4C Ultimate doesn't work on Snakes because Snakes is present in every universe affected by the Throne (which is any universe where he is present, because even if the Sensory were to be brought to a universe outside the Throne's influence, the Sensory is basically a terminal for 1-A Mercurius, who would then incorporate said universe into the Throne, giving him an even greater powerup), so the best that D4C could do is escape to another universe where Snakes can't touch him, in which case Kars would be BFR'ing himself. Made in Heaven Ultimate Requiem is useless because Mercurius is immune to time-based attacks that aren't 1-A.
However, in character, it's unlikely that Kars could actually affect Snakes in such a way that it would prompt him to fight back or do aything, which is Kars' only saving grace - because it hasn't been specified that the two are bloodlusted. If they're both bloodlusted, Snakes instantly wins because his attack power is Outerversal, which not even Kars can sustain a hit from.
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firstly habaki can use shoko mandala because tumor/seventh heaven was with him. Mercurius himself isn't with karl kraft...so his abilities are actually limited due to not having his true host also he can't use any 1-A attack while he only trolled Ren he is a sensory =/= merc. Like I said Habaki only can use shoko mandala because he was with his true self the tumor
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That match is actually rather old.
Incorrect, he can replicate them even if not down to the exact method , and Kars has billions if not a nigh infinite amount of souls. On hand at all times . Plus kars' "understanding" dies not actually require him to understand he could have no idea what it does , he could still copy .
>implying universal destruction can kill kars.
Considering he tanked 37 universal destructions unscathed ?
Not how d4c works, also, >bfr himself.
Not tryebat all, if he is still fighting, like through duplicates or anything he will still be counted as fighting.
Mih effects everything but mercurious anyway, it speeds up kars abd destroys the universe, mercurious being effected at all or not at all effects nothing .
Abd ya do realize anything from his 1-A form gets tajen away right?
Incorrect, he can replicate them even if not down to the exact method , and Kars has billions if not a nigh infinite amount of souls. On hand at all times . Plus kars' "understanding" dies not actually require him to understand he could have no idea what it does , he could still copy .
>implying universal destruction can kill kars.
Considering he tanked 37 universal destructions unscathed ?
Not how d4c works, also, >bfr himself.
Not tryebat all, if he is still fighting, like through duplicates or anything he will still be counted as fighting.
Mih effects everything but mercurious anyway, it speeds up kars abd destroys the universe, mercurious being effected at all or not at all effects nothing .
Abd ya do realize anything from his 1-A form gets tajen away right?
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Mercurius: 1 (Morthra)
Kars: 1 (Dienomite22)
Inconclusive: 3 (Sir Ovens DMUA Iapitus The Impaler Hizack123)
Kars: 1 (Dienomite22)
Inconclusive: 3 (Sir Ovens DMUA Iapitus The Impaler Hizack123)
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Quick question, but how good is his temporal tanking ?
Kars has time stop that effects acasual beings and beings that no sell time stop .
Kars has time stop that effects acasual beings and beings that no sell time stop .
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i...have no clue...merc's sensory RARELY fights only in kei route i will be frank at that part. Should be at least as good as reinhard tanking Methuselah's most powerful attack (speeds billions of years in a second + soul (don't ask)) without a scratch
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But can he tank time stop which can completely stop acasual beings and fighters that have shown the ability of tanking time stop prior but failing against this one ?
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Outdated, Kars is universal.
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Made and got accepted.
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No? Gotta go from part 1-7 then the novel.
Gonna start later.
Accepted though.
Gonna start later.
Accepted though.
