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I did... What's the problem?
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Regarding FTL Kaido
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Just to note I don't agree with the logic of "It's a Vegapunk creation, so it must be inferior to the real thing."
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Okay did u actually understand it?
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Yes.. You still haven't said anything... If someone can react to light and not a character in a fight then it would mean their combat speed is FTL
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@MonkeyOfLife
You need a statement that says "your power is multiplied".
All increases are not multipliers. They can be large additions.
That is not the topic of this thread. If you wish to have a multiplier, make an alternative thread.
Please don't reference this topic any further.
Also, do not reference other series to justify your upgrades. There are alternate reasons for different series.
You need a statement that says "your power is multiplied".
All increases are not multipliers. They can be large additions.
That is not the topic of this thread. If you wish to have a multiplier, make an alternative thread.
Please don't reference this topic any further.
Also, do not reference other series to justify your upgrades. There are alternate reasons for different series.
PrinceofPein
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I doubt, then you will understand the difference between aim dodging with precog or how distance play a role and circumstances surrounding dodging
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If luffy is able to precog light and dodge it then he should be able to do the same when fighting doflamingo...
PrinceofPein
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Outlier or the beams are not sol
No precog, close range dodging
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Explain why it's an outlier and explain how the beams are not SoL when the wiki currently accepts them as SoL
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Zoro also dodged them
PrinceofPein
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Wiki says "possibly" and I'm waiting for this thread to close so I can open a CRT to remove the "possibly Sol" and yes with proof that they are not Sol at all and much more slower
PrinceofPein
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So did nami, usopp, chopper
Outlier or the beams are not sol
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Go check the page, I've revised it since my CRT made the possibly get removed.
Prove the beams are slower.
PrinceofPein
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Why do I need to prove it here if it won't change the pages??
But well let me drop a point
Luffy could dodge the PX beams in base and close range, but somehow can't react to kizaru beams from afar?
Even G2 luffy was called too slow by kizaru in logia form.
Yes they are not as fast as light
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Can someone quickly summarize the situation here?
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If it won't change the pages, stop talking about it.
Send scans of Luffy not reacting to Kizaru's beams.
Everybody's travel speed is slower than light. Keep going.
Try again
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Damage has an issue with the calc and @Pain_to12 feels like saying lasers are not SoL even though the wiki has accepted them as SoL, so this thread is all over the place
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I wonder what the profiles would look like if we did list character's travel speeds.
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Average human Travel Speed, MHS+ Combat speed, MHS+ Reaction speed
PrinceofPein
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Which is exactly what I said or did you miss the part where I can't open another one piece CRT unless this closes?
Scroll up he couldn't, had to be saved by Ivan
Kizaru was not travelling then tho, he statued luffy when he entered logia form and blitzed him lol if luffy can react to light prior in base why couldn't he react to another light while in G2?
Not interested
Anyway just waiting for this CRT to be done or u want to put it on hold so we can discuss and argue Sol PX beams?
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Proof he was incapable of moving out of the way?
Point blank CoO user, keep going.
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The moment he didnt move, saved by Ivan and said "thanks you saved me"
Kizaru was coming from a distance tho, he didnt react either way
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No proof he couldn't move out the way. We don't see him being incapable of moving.
Luffy scales to Ivankov so what is your point.
Luffy wasn't looking at him, and that's travel speed. Keep going.
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Well those lasers are definitely Speed of Light, I don't agree with them not being SOL
And I don't see an issue with Rayleigh's calc, not sure about Ussop's tho
PrinceofPein
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"Thanks you saved me"
And if anything ivankov did his wink thing before the beam was released or u have proof it was after?
PrinceofPein
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I'm waiting for this CRT to end so I can present my argument, it's currently all over the place
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Luffy saved Whitebeard from Crocodile. Is Luffy > WB now?
Proof?
The Sfx of the laser was fired before Ivankov winked.
You love telling people to go check out the speed page. Go check combat vs travel speed.
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If someone tries to help would you not say thanks? And luffy reacted prior and after against light speed...
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PrinceofPein
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Huh?
What's with the false equivalency?
Makes me sick
Or SFX of the laser been formed?
Huh?
It doesnt change the fact that luffy could not react to kizaru in logia form coming at him from a distance lmao
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Also the times he couldn't dodge light is when he is mid air or down on the ground... But still reacted...
PrinceofPein
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Dude: Luffy reactedReacted and reacted...
Ivanov protecting luffy is not an anti feat
proceeds to send scans of luffy getting hit by the laser
Lmao
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False equivalency because you don't agree
Go learn SFX and you'll be able
Luffy looks south.
Kizaru comes from north and gets an inch away from Kizaru's face using travel speed.
Luffy notices him.
Never got touchedDude: Luffy reacted
proceeds to send scans of luffy getting hit by the laser
Lmao
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I hate arguing w/ people desperate for downgrades.
Unfollowing.
Unfollowing.
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PrinceofPein
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I can also say the same about someone desperate for upgrade that he thinks pre ts usopp is FTL
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Guys accusing each other of fishing for upgrades or downgrades is an Appeal to Bias Fallacy
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Luffy literally looks at the moving light speed movement.... That's reaction...
PrinceofPein
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I'm sure u can also notice something as large as a cup moving at sonic speed, but u are not reacting.
Or u can react to a bullet train even though u can see the train?
Do u get the difference now?
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