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I did... What's the problem?Read the vs wiki speed tiering page boss
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I did... What's the problem?Read the vs wiki speed tiering page boss
Okay did u actually understand it?I did... What's the problem?
Yes.. You still haven't said anything... If someone can react to light and not a character in a fight then it would mean their combat speed is FTLOkay did u actually understand it?
I doubt, then you will understand the difference between aim dodging with precog or how distance play a role and circumstances surrounding dodgingYes.. You still haven't said anything... If someone can react to light and not a character in a fight then it would mean their combat speed is FTL
I doubt, then you will understand the difference between aim dodging with precog or how distance play a role and circumstances surrounding dodging
If luffy is able to precog light and dodge it then he should be able to do the same when fighting doflamingo...I doubt, then you will understand the difference between aim dodging with precog or how distance play a role and circumstances surrounding dodging
Outlier or the beams are not sol
No precog, close range dodging
Explain why it's an outlier and explain how the beams are not SoL when the wiki currently accepts them as SoLOutlier or the beams are not sol
Zoro also dodged themOutlier or the beams are not sol
Wiki says "possibly" and I'm waiting for this thread to close so I can open a CRT to remove the "possibly Sol" and yes with proof that they are not Sol at all and much more slowerExplain why it's an outlier and explain how the beams are not SoL when the wiki currently accepts them as SoL
So did nami, usopp, chopperZoro also dodged them
Go check the page, I've revised it since my CRT made the possibly get removed.Wiki says "possibly" and I'm waiting for this thread to close so I can open a CRT to remove the "possibly Sol" and yes with proof that they are not Sol at all and much more slower
Why do I need to prove it here if it won't change the pages??Go check the page, I've revised it since my CRT made the possibly get removed.
Prove the beams are slower.
If it won't change the pages, stop talking about it.Why do I need to prove it here if it won't change the pages??
Send scans of Luffy not reacting to Kizaru's beams.But well let me drop a point
Luffy could dodge the PX beams in base and close range, but somehow can't react to kizaru beams from afar?
Everybody's travel speed is slower than light. Keep going.Even G2 luffy was called too slow by kizaru in logia form.
Try againYes they are not as fast as light
Damage has an issue with the calc and @Pain_to12 feels like saying lasers are not SoL even though the wiki has accepted them as SoL, so this thread is all over the placeCan someone quickly summarize the situation here?
Everybody's travel speed is slower than light. Keep going.
Average human Travel Speed, MHS+ Combat speed, MHS+ Reaction speedI wonder what the profiles would look like if we did list character's travel speeds.
Which is exactly what I said or did you miss the part where I can't open another one piece CRT unless this closes?If it won't change the pages, stop talking about it.
Scroll up he couldn't, had to be saved by IvanSend scans of Luffy not reacting to Kizaru's beams.
Kizaru was not travelling then tho, he statued luffy when he entered logia form and blitzed him lol if luffy can react to light prior in base why couldn't he react to another light while in G2?Everybody's travel speed is slower than light. Keep going.
Not interestedTry again
Proof he was incapable of moving out of the way?Scroll up he couldn't, had to be saved by Ivan
Point blank CoO user, keep going.Kizaru was not travelling then tho, he statued luffy when he entered logia form and blitzed him lol if luffy can react to light prior in base why couldn't he react to another light while in G2?
The moment he didnt move, saved by Ivan and said "thanks you saved me"Proof he was incapable of moving out of the way?
Kizaru was coming from a distance tho, he didnt react either wayPoint blank CoO user, keep going
No proof he couldn't move out the way. We don't see him being incapable of moving.The moment he didnt move, saved by Ivan and said "thanks you saved me"
Luffy wasn't looking at him, and that's travel speed. Keep going.Kizaru was coming from a distance tho, he didnt react either way
Well those lasers are definitely Speed of Light, I don't agree with them not being SOLDamage has an issue with the calc and @Pain_to12 feels like saying lasers are not SoL even though the wiki has accepted them as SoL, so this thread is all over the place
"Thanks you saved me"No proof he couldn't move out the way. We don't see him being incapable of moving.
Luffy scales to Ivankov so what is your point.
Luffy wasn't looking at him, and that's travel speed. Keep going.
I'm waiting for this CRT to end so I can present my argument, it's currently all over the placeWell those lasers are definitely Speed of Light, I don't agree with them not being SOL
Luffy saved Whitebeard from Crocodile. Is Luffy > WB now?"Thanks you saved me"
Proof?And if anything ivankov did his wink thing before the beam was released
The Sfx of the laser was fired before Ivankov winked.or u have proof it was after?
You love telling people to go check out the speed page. Go check combat vs travel speed.So the PX beams don't travel but go for drives?
If someone tries to help would you not say thanks? And luffy reacted prior and after against light speed...I'm waiting for this CRT to end so I can present my argument, it's currently all over the place
Reacted and reacted..."Thanks you saved me"
And if anything ivankov did his wink thing before the beam was released or u have proof it was after?
So the PX beams don't travel but go for drives?
Huh?Luffy saved Whitebeard from Crocodile. Is Luffy > WB now?
Or SFX of the laser been formed?The Sfx of the laser was fired before Ivankov winked.
Huh?You love telling people to go check out the speed page. Go check combat vs travel speed.
Dude: Luffy reactedReacted and reacted...
Ivanov protecting luffy is not an anti feat
False equivalency because you don't agreeHuh?
What's with the false equivalency?
Makes me sick
Go learn SFX and you'll be ableOr SFX of the laser been formed?
Luffy looks south.Huh?
It doesnt change the fact that luffy could not react to kizaru in logia form coming at him from a distance lmao
Never got touchedDude: Luffy reacted
proceeds to send scans of luffy getting hit by the laser
Lmao✌
Lol I'm doneFalse equivalency because you don't agree
Go learn SFX and you'll be able
Luffy looks south.
Kizaru comes from north and gets an inch away from Kizaru's face using travel speed.
Luffy notices him.
Never got touched
I can also say the same about someone desperate for upgrade that he thinks pre ts usopp is FTLI hate arguing w/ people desperate for downgrades.
Unfollowing.
Luffy literally looks at the moving light speed movement.... That's reaction...Lol I'm done
I will just wait
I'm sure u can also notice something as large as a cup moving at sonic speed, but u are not reacting.Luffy literally looks at the moving light speed movement.... That's reaction...