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Real Life Big Animals CRT

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Antvasima said:
What do you think that we should do here?
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I'm casually waiting for Spino's response here on his sandbox, although he's stated to procrastinate on Real World revisions. Since's he's considered staff & invested in many verses I'll give him like 1-2 months (Apr 4-May 4) after he's made his statement to do the sandbox. After that I'll probably ask him on the sandbox.

I could make a sandbox blog on some of the IRL animals here in this CRT with refs on reliable source since I'm a high schooler with some time on his hands. I'll do it if there's little progress in this thread for like months at a time.
 
Spinosaurus75DinosaurFan said:
I've got COVID at the moment, the others can work on the project in the meantime if they want. I've started listing some of the animals here before though but it's a very very rough draft: https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User:Spinosaurus75DinosaurFan/Sandbox_9
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Your odds of surviving the disease are excellent! ;) You can push through, the staff here likely has been through a lot of stress stuff. I'm sure that you'll live.

The sandbox is excellent though.
 
KLOL506 said:
Ye, I calc'd one of those and using linear momentum the bear still receives Wall level energy, just gotta find that calc I made years ago.
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That's interesting, I wonder what animals it would scale to though. I don't think lions and tigers are necessarily as powerful as bears in terms of brute strength alone, though I could be wrong.
 
Spinosaurus75DinosaurFan said:
That's interesting, I wonder what animals it would scale to though. I don't think lions and tigers are necessarily as powerful as bears in terms of brute strength alone, though I could be wrong.
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The bear that I got to be Wall level via the linear momentum thing was a small black bear BTW, it got hit by a semi-truck at decent enough speeds and lived to tell the tale.
 
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Antvasima said:
Have any useful conclusions based upon which revisions can be applied been made here?
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Basically, I did give supporting evidence to the ratings in this thread, Giraffes are deadly, & the bears that survived car crashes may not survive in other circumstances. I mean, you can link &/or type the feats into the pages as long as they're archived via a screenshot, quote, or archive site like the waybackmachine, archive.ph (orginally archive.vn), & ghostarchive.org in case the evidence proofs out of existence. For me, I just like to do things in references (I'm saving the sheep & hunter-gatherer-Cro magnon stuff for another thread).
 
I think I'm planning in making a couple of sandboxes with refs on the animals with sources here in this CRT if I have the time (I have homework from school).

I'm taking a mental breather & I'll calculate the linear momentum of the bears just to see if their peak durability/one shot from cars holds up, & then I'll put it in a blog.
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I think you can find plenty feats of (black) bears surviving being hit by cars (in Massachusetts "According to the state, about 30-40 bears are hit by cars on an annual basis, with the majority on interstate or state highways."), but they do get killed by them in other circumstances "Tennessee television station WBIR reported that 35 bears were killed by cars near the Smoky mountains in just ten months. This was put down to a growing human population around bear habitats."
Weight: 100 - 600 lb for Black Bears depending on many factors (Archived), but I'll use the middle value of ((100 + 600)/2 or) 350 lb. The average car weighs 4,094 lb (Archived). The average body mass of the human is 62 kg for this calculation (pdf pg 3) (Archived)
Speed: Passenger vehicle speed limit on completed segments of interstate highways is 65 mph, 60 mph during daytime, 55 mph during nighttime (Archived) However depending on the person & situation, they'll go under, or over the speed limit (Archived). I'll deduct/add the speed limit by 5 mph for this calculation due to this.
Calculation:
Under speed limit by 5 mph
(((((4094)4.448222)/9.80665) + 62)(60*0.44704))/((((350+4094)4.448222)/9.80665) + 62) = 24.77296051 m/s
-> 0.5((((350)4.448222)/9.80665))((24.77296051)^2) = 48714.65683 J
(((((4094)4.448222)/9.80665) + 62)(55*0.44704))/((((350+4094)4.448222)/9.80665) + 62) = 22.70854713 m/s
-> 0.5((((350)4.448222)/9.80665))((22.70854713)^2) = 40933.84357 J
(((((4094)4.448222)/9.80665) + 62)(50*0.44704))/((((350+4094)4.448222)/9.80665) + 62) = 20.64413376 m/s
-> 0.5((((350)4.448222)/9.80665))((20.64413376)^2) = 33829.6228 J
At the speed limit
(((((4094)4.448222)/9.80665) + 62)(65*0.44704))/((((350+4094)4.448222)/9.80665) + 62) = 26.83737388 m/s
-> 0.5((((350)4.448222)/9.80665))((26.83737388)^2) = 57172.06251 J
(((((4094)4.448222)/9.80665) + 62)(60*0.44704))/((((350+4094)4.448222)/9.80665) + 62) = 24.77296051 m/s
-> 0.5((((350)4.448222)/9.80665))((24.77296051)^2) = 48714.65683 J
(((((4094)4.448222)/9.80665) + 62)(55*0.44704))/((((350+4094)4.448222)/9.80665) + 62) = 22.70854713 m/s
-> 0.5((((350)4.448222)/9.80665))((22.70854713)^2) = 40933.84357 J
Over the speed limit by 5 mph
(((((4094)4.448222)/9.80665) + 62)(70*0.44704))/((((350+4094)4.448222)/9.80665) + 62) = 28.90178726 m/s
-> 0.5((((350)4.448222)/9.80665))((28.90178726)^2) = 66306.06068 J
(((((4094)4.448222)/9.80665) + 62)(65*0.44704))/((((350+4094)4.448222)/9.80665) + 62) = 26.83737388 m/s
-> 0.5((((350)4.448222)/9.80665))((26.83737388)^2) = 57172.06251 J
(((((4094)4.448222)/9.80665) + 62)(60*0.44704))/((((350+4094)4.448222)/9.80665) + 62) = 24.77296051 m/s
-> 0.5((((350)4.448222)/9.80665))((24.77296051)^2) = 48714.65683 J
Geez, the Wall level results are staggering. If the results are legit, then it's no wonder that black bears can get easily injured/one-shotted by cars.
Edit: The calculations have been edited to accompany the fact that there's a driver in the car.
Realistically speaking, if a character/animals severely injuries a black bear to incapacitation or one shots the black bear in a (single) physical attack, I guess the wall level results are applicable. You can find videos (Archived) of (Archived) black bears (Archived) fighting/wrestling each other, but no one-shots or them severely injuring each other with their attacks. (A domestic piggy wrestled & pushed a Black Bear (Archived))
 
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Spinosaurus75DinosaurFan said:
If we know the impact velocity of a punch we could multiply force by velocity to get power, which is Joules per second but a good enough approximation.
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ft-lbs can be directly converted to joules tho, it's only when the unit is just left as pounds of force is where it becomes difficult to measure.

But now I think most pounds of force measurements are, well, most likely, references to ft-lbs.
 
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