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[DarlingAurora]

this is minor but I added 10-B female key to Cheetahs & some weakness
I fixed some things & added discussions

 

[DarlingAurora]

Hi, I'm thinking on change the Domestic Pig profile.

• First, I think that we can include a image of the Feral Pig, they exists too.
• And second, in that case we need to rename "Domestic Pig" to just "Pig (Real World)", is that better?

 

[DarlingAurora]

I did the clouded leopard profile.

 

[DarlingAurora]

Hi, I'm thinking on change the Domestic Pig profile.

• First, I think that we can include a image of the Feral Pig, they exists too.
• And second, in that case we need to rename "Domestic Pig" to just "Pig (Real World)", is that better?

opinions?, just this left

 

[Antvasima]

The suggested new additions seem good to me. Thank you very much for helping out.

 

[DarlingAurora]

this is minor too but I added a 10-A for females in gorilla profiles
because females are obviously much weaker than males and is the half of their size

 

[Antvasima]

I think that even being five times stronger than a regular human, rather than ten times for males, should land them in 9-C territory.

 

[DarlingAurora]

I think that even being five times stronger than a regular human, rather than ten times for males, should land them in 9-C territory.

Through, the females are still much weaker, and they usually use that strength for pull..
Well, what about scaling female to just 10-A+? Since 40*5 = 240

 

[Antvasima]

If female gorillas are 10x stronger than regular human females or 5x stronger than regular human males, that should still be 9-C as far as I am aware.

 

[DarlingAurora]

If female gorillas are 10x stronger than regular human females or 5x stronger than regular human males, that should still be 9-C as far as I am aware.

Well, there exists no claim about females exactly being stronger, I'm pretty sure that is just for males gorillas, western or eastern ones..

 

[Antvasima]

If male gorillas are 10x stronger than regular human males, and female gorillas are half as strong, the logic seems fairly straightforward.

 

[DarlingAurora]

If male gorillas are 10x stronger than regular human males, and female gorillas are half as strong, the logic seems fairly straightforward.

so.. 10-A+ fits better? Also.. females are much less robust and weaker

 

[Antvasima]

I was thinking that 40 Joules as the lower border of our 10-B tier would be a quite weak human woman, and the upper limit of 100 Joules would be a rather fit regular male. So we would end up with either 10x 40 Joules or 5x 100 Joules, which ends up as 9-C in either case.

 

[DarlingAurora]

I was thinking that 40 Joules as the lower border of our 10-B tier would be a quite weak human woman, and the upper limit of 100 Joules would be a rather fit regular male. So we would end up with either 10x 40 Joules or 5x 100 Joules, which ends up as 9-C in either case.

Well, I think that just using 40*5 is better imo.. females gorillas are easily killed by leopards too, only males can defeat them.. I thought that we actually use 40 for average human

 

[KLOL506]

Well, I think that just using 40*5 is better imo.. females gorillas are easily killed by leopards too, only males can defeat them.. I thought that we actually use 40 for average human

We do use 40 for average humans, that is correct.

Though how do leopards kill female gorillas? Is it by going straight for the throat? It's not as if the Leopards kill the gorillas with a tackle into a wall.

 

[DarlingAurora]

We do use 40 for average humans, that is correct.

Though how do leopards kill female gorillas? Is it by going straight for the throat? It's not as if the Leopards kill the gorillas with a tackle into a wall.

Well, I find cases where a panther tore off male gorilla arm, both leopard & gorilla dies after encounter, panther killed gorilla again, there many cases of predation or fights with gorillas but for sure they can easily kill females if they can do that to males too.

 

[KLOL506]

Well, I find cases where a panther tore off male gorilla arm, both leopard & gorilla dies after encounter, panther killed gorilla again, there many cases of predation or fights with gorillas but for sure they can easily kill females if they can do that to males too.

Tore off male gorilla arm: Was this done after multiple bites to the arm joints to weaken them and make it easier to pull out? Or was it just done after the leopard got a good grip on the gorilla's arm with its jaws and then ripped the entire thing out?

The rest of the battles seem like they lack context on the full details.

 

[DarlingAurora]

Tore off male gorilla arm: Was this done after multiple bites to the arm joints to weaken them and make it easier to pull out? Or was it just done after the leopard got a good grip on the gorilla's arm with its jaws and then ripped the entire thing out?

The rest of the battles seem like they lack context on the full details.

Probably the first, but still impressive.

Yeah, but still happened. These battles still happened and leopards are known to easily hunt gorilla, some fights them and others bite on the neck.

Through, leopards avoid adult male gorillas since they can fight them, but not about females or young ones—

 

[DarlingAurora]

Just did the common snapping turtle profile to avoid confusion with the alligator one

 

[DarlingAurora]

wait- why Peregrine Falcon is 9-C?.. we need to downgrade it to just 10-C like eagles.. their entire rating is based on just KE..

 

[LephyrTheRevanchist]

wait- why Peregrine Falcon is 9-C?.. we need to downgrade it to just 10-C like eagles.. their entire rating is based on just KE..

I believe there has been cases where a Falcon does use their insane diving speeds to "punch" prey and one shot them, so they should retain 9-C, but specifying it only applies to their dives (and the profile sorta acknowledges this already, given they have 10-C durability).

 

[Propellus]

I believe there has been cases where a Falcon does use their insane diving speeds to "punch" prey and one shot them, so they should retain 9-C, but specifying it only applies to their dives (and the profile sorta acknowledges this already, given they have 10-C durability).

I think that's based off their KE, which we shouldn't scale to their true physicals

 

[KLOL506]

I believe there has been cases where a Falcon does use their insane diving speeds to "punch" prey and one shot them, so they should retain 9-C, but specifying it only applies to their dives (and the profile sorta acknowledges this already, given they have 10-C durability).

9-C via dives then, and making them 10-C in striking strength. They don't necessarily have piercing damage per se without that speed so eh, whatever.

 

[DarlingAurora]

so, is everyone fine with 10-C physically for falcon? I can apply it?

 

[LephyrTheRevanchist]

9-C via dives then, and making them 10-C in striking strength. They don't necessarily have piercing damage per se without that speed so eh, whatever.

I agree.

 

[DarlingAurora]

And what about the 10-A+ female gorillas?; is everyone fine with it too?

 

[LephyrTheRevanchist]

I believe there has been cases where a Falcon does use their insane diving speeds to "punch" prey and one shot them, so they should retain 9-C, but specifying it only applies to their dives (and the profile sorta acknowledges this already, given they have 10-C durability).

Here a peregrine is seen slashing through a hawk while diving.

 

[H3110l12345I20]

Here a peregrine is seen slashing through a hawk while diving.

A human is like at least out of it's weight class on the things it hunts. This source should provide a bit more supporting evidence. Edit: They're more 10-C normally to me, but these suggestions here I'll accept if it's on topic on the Falcon.

 

[DarlingAurora]

• Peregrine Falcon: 9-C to 10-C
• Female Gorilla: 10-A to 10-A+
• Domestic Pig: Changing profile name to just "Pig", and adding the Feral Pig on their profile.

 

[DarlingAurora]

Also, Gigantophitecus needs a downgrade but I will talk about it later

 

[LephyrTheRevanchist]

A human is like at least out of it's weight class on the things it hunts. This source should provide a bit more supporting evidence. Edit: They're more 10-C normally to me, but these suggestions here I'll accept if it's on topic on the Falcon.

Oh yeah, not saying they could hunt a human. But more so, their ke should be noted regardless, as it is indeed part of their hunting strategy, unlike many other animals that aren't truthfully able to utilize said ke.

 

[Antvasima]

What KLOL506 has accepted here can probably mostly be applied, as long as it is properly justified/explained within our pages, but I would still much prefer a proper investigation of the strength of gorillas, not just go by "10x stronger than a human of unknown physical capacity".

 

[DarlingAurora]

What KLOL506 has accepted here can probably mostly be applied, as long as it is properly justified/explained within our pages, but I would still much prefer a proper investigation of the strength of gorillas, not just go by "10x stronger than a human of unknown physical capacity".

What about the Pig changes? Nobody talked about that

 

[Antvasima]

The name change seems fine to me at least.

 

[DarlingAurora]

I did the caracal profile

 

[DarlingAurora]

• Peregrine Falcon: 9-C to 10-C
• Female Gorilla: 10-A to 10-A+
• Domestic Pig: Changing profile name to just "Pig", and adding the Feral Pig on their profile.

I applied all, the only left is the pig

 

[Apex_Predator_GX]

I applied all, the only left is the pig

Aren't signs + gonna be removed from the profiles?

 

[DarlingAurora]

Aren't signs + gonna be removed from the profiles?

We need to remove that in like thousands of profiles then.. but we need acception

 

[Propellus]

Aren't signs + gonna be removed from the profiles?

Unless if the profiles has calcs for them, then they don't need to

 

[Apex_Predator_GX]

We need to remove that in like thousands of profiles then.. but we need acception

I mean if they aren't based on calculations we could avoid adding them in the first place, isn't it?