Re Zero Skill Evaluation Part 2

[Fezzih_007]

That's the problem actually, since this feat as done while Ram have no mana, so she was not using flow-mo, that means just Ram can do this specific feat, not the other characters, since they need flow-mo.

 

[Zabazab]

It's not that straight-forward I think. To give an extreme example, even without Flow Method Reinhard would obviously be able to perform something far beyond even this example of Ram's godlike intuition and talent- because everyone's (except Reid's) intuition and talent pale in comparison to Reinhard's.

 

[Fezzih_007]

I mean yeah, Reinhard probally would be the exception because his talent is complety broken.

 

[VortechsTG]

Ram ran out of enough mana to use physical abilities but she's still buffing her mind I guess. She would make sure leave enough mana for herself to survive. She's clearly still using flow method abilities.

Or alternatively maybe they're actually engrained in the od? Still a magic ability then.

 

[Zabazab]

Oh yeah according to Beatrice in Arc 2 (and many other sources after), having literally all of your mana drained would just kill you outright. Even running extremely low on mana knocks most people out from what we've seen, like when Reinhard drained Felt.

The fact that it specifically mentions "She’d already run dry of the mana she’d used for physical enhancement", i.e she hadn't run dry of mana not used for physical enhancement, is significant in this context.

 

[Fezzih_007]

Ram ran out of enough mana to use physical abilities but she's still buffing her mind I guess.

The text don't really say that, so we can't assume It.

She's clearly still using flow method abilities.

No?

Still smiling softly, Ram leaped in and drove a knee into the great tiger’s torso. She bounced off hard; the damage to her kneecap was severe. She’d already run dry of the mana she’d used for physical enhancement; now, her body was only as strong as her petite appearance suggested.

Or alternatively maybe they're actually engrained in the od? Still a magic ability then

What you talking about?

Oh yeah according to Beatrice in Arc 2 (and many other sources after), having literally all of your mana drained would just kill you outright. Even running extremely low on mana knocks most people out from what we've seen, like when Reinhard drained Felt.

Ok, I said "zero mana" kinda losely, because i din't mean literal no mana, I just said she was no mana to use flow-mo, not that she don't have mana at the moment.

The fact that it specifically mentions "She’d already run dry of the mana she’d used for physical enhancement", i.e she hadn't run dry of mana not used for physical enhancement, is significant in this context.

Ok yeah, she still have mana to survive, true.

 

[Arnoldstone18]

Ram ran out of enough mana to use physical abilities but she's still buffing her mind I guess. She would make sure leave enough mana for herself to survive. She's clearly still using flow method abilities.

Or alternatively maybe they're actually engrained in the od? Still a magic ability then.

bruh… you guys pick a side, is she using mana or not?

 

[Zabazab]

It doesn't need to be so black & white I think.

Evidence in the series states that literally totally running out of mana will kill a person as mana is life-force. Even running low on mana will cause lethargy and even fainting or more serious unconsciousness.

Ram is stated to have run out of the mana she uses for physical enhancement- but I don't think that means she was out of mana completely, as even running low on mana would have knocked her unconscious.

It seems most likely that Ram, although unable to enhance her body due to the limits of her body brought on by her disability, was able to use mana to improve her mind similar to how Subaru uses it unconsciously.

This makes it most likely that Ram's feat was one of analytical precog, instinctive action, perception manipulation, or a combination of the three.

That's the last I wanna say in regards to Ram's feat.

 

[Fezzih_007]

It seems most likely that Ram, although unable to enhance her body due to the limits of her body brought on by her disability, was able to use mana to improve her mind similar to how Subaru uses it unconsciously.

That's not mentioned in the text trought.

This makes it most likely that Ram's feat was one of analytical precog, instinctive action, perception manipulation, or a combination of the three.

Considering that the quote is so vague, implying that is one of the three is kinda hard. The text just say It was talent and intuiton, It could be these three, but since analytical prediction is Impossible in that situation, instinctive action and perception manipulation would probally be the answer.

But that's just a feat for Ram, It should't scale to anyone.

That's the last I wanna say in regards to Ram's feat.

This is Fine.

 

[VortechsTG]

bruh… you guys pick a side, is she using mana or not?

Not to enhance her physical stats. Our "side" has not changed.

 

[Arnoldstone18]

Not to enhance her physical stats. Our "side" has not changed.

you made up a “side” off of non-existent text so it can better suit your made narrative of what the text says.

It never said Ram used a mental enhancement.

 

[VortechsTG]

you made up a “side” off of non-existent text so it can better suit your made narrative of what the text says.

It never said Ram used a mental enhancement.

Ok.

Never respond to me again.

 

[Arnoldstone18]

Well… okay… fine..

 

[Ped2018]

Lmaooo

 

[Fezzih_007]

lol

Okay, so every character that is scaling for Ram feat, should get them removed i think, should i make a CRT?

 

[CloverDragon03]

"Dodging attacks 130x faster than her via pure skill"

Lol

 

[SatellaTheWoE]

Ram only did this feat while being nerfed, people like Reid should technically be able to dodge infinite speed due to being infinitely over Ram.

 

[Zabazab]

I'm assuming you're joking, as Arc 12 is when we'll get Infinite Speed Reid Analytical Precog + IA is only useful as long as you can percieve the opponent.

Reid could dodge Infinite speed attacks (assuming they move in a straight line) from a FTL character, but outright Infinite combat speed is no dice for him.

 

[SatellaTheWoE]

I'm assuming you're joking, as Arc 12 is when we'll get Infinite Speed Reid Analytical Precog + IA is only useful as long as you can percieve the opponent.

Reid could dodge Infinite speed attacks (assuming they move in a straight line) from a FTL character, but outright Infinite combat speed is no dice for him.

Disagree fra

 

[Fezzih_007]

Ram only did this feat while being nerfed, people like Reid should technically be able to dodge infinite speed due to being infinitely over Ram.

I like SatellaTheWoE because of they arguments, is always one of the things that make me cry.

 

[SatellaTheWoE]

I like SatellaTheWoE because of they arguments, is always one of the things that make me cry.

The feeling is mutual

 

[Arnoldstone18]

I'm assuming you're joking,

I’m assuming wayyyy more than you here. It’s probably an illusion

 

[SatellaTheWoE]

To clarify yes i was joking

 

[Arnoldstone18]

Nah you definitely put me under a genjutsu with that one

 

[Fezzih_007]

"Is hard to tell with you"

 

[SatellaTheWoE]

I am not delusional