Raiden (Metal Gear) vs Ryuko Matoi

[Overlord775]

Both 7-C and speed equalized

Raide

vs

Ryüko Matoi

 

[Paladinporter]

Ryuko via her regen, reactive evolution, and the fact that Jack the Ripper mode guzzles Raiden's energy.

 

[Schnee_One]

The latter is a complete game mechanic as shown by literally every instance that isn't gameplay

Anyway, if Raiden can beat her regen with Blade Mode then he can likely win, if not blah blah regen blah blah

EDIT: Although now that speed amps are allowed Raiden's HF blade striking at Sub-Rel speeds can likely go through it.

 

[Rune_Katashima]

Interesting match. I want to say Raiden since one of his weapons is scissor-like and if he decides to use it he cancels her regen. If he doesn't then she'll win through attrition. She isn't weak by any means though.

Unfortunately he'd have to know to use that weapon and he'd probably get around to it, but not before Ryuko kills him.

That said Ryuko's regen gets easily taxed in her 7-C form. Though not in the sense that she'd die but get exhausted instead (and then eventually die after). Something Raiden could easily do with the HF blade.

It's an interesting one and I can play Devil's Advocate for either. It actually comes down to whether Raiden uses his pincer blades or not (curiously this piece of equipment is not on his profile though he DOES have them) http://metalgear.wikia.com/wiki/Metal_Gear_Rising:_Revengeance_weapons#Bloodlust_.28Pincer_Blades.29 in case anyone wants to update his profile.

I'll have to wait for now. I'm a big fan of both series.

 

[Overlord775]

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[Overlord775]

oh boy

 

[Overlord775]

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[Overlord775]

bump of nature

 

[TheDoom01]

Rules of Nature.

 

[Overlord775]

bumping because it has to be this way

 

[Overlord775]

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[Overlord775]

Bumpmachines, son

 

[PrettyFearMachine]

Raiden via HF Blade, Blade & Ripper Mode.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

How exactly does that help him? It won't get past Ryüko's regen

 

[PrettyFearMachine]

Okay, my memory is being rusty, so I'll ask. Is her regen instantaneous?

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Yes, unless cut from both sides simultaneously in in a scissor motion life fibers regenerate immediately after being damaged

 

[PrettyFearMachine]

Well, Raiden does have a scissor-like weapon, but idk if he'll get to know that he needs to use it.

How far is Ryuko into 7-C again?

 

[Schnee_One]

Baseline

Why can't it get past unless it slices both sides? Pretty sure slicing a Dura ignoring blade at Sub-Rel speeds would slice in half.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Ryuko is stronger than baseline 7-C and far enough into 7-C that it took a low 7-C several hours of continuous punches to just scratch and bruise her slightly

 

[Schnee_One]

I mean.

Yeah.

No shit a Low 7C would take forever to damage a 7C

 

[PrettyFearMachine]

^

Especially with High-Mid regen

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Low 7-C isn't actually that far from 7-C numbers-wise

Also regarding Gargoyle's question, no, dura negation alone won't do anything, it has to be done in in a scissor motion, speed alone won't stop her from regenerating

 

[Schnee_One]

I have no idea how you even get scratched or bruised when you have High Mid regen but whatever.

 

[PrettyFearMachine]

Considering that Raiden is 10-11 KT via Ripper and Blade Mode multipliers, I think he'll get to use Pincer Blades: Bloodlust to put Ryuko down.

 

[Schnee_One]

I completely ******* forget his pincer blades lol

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Raided isn't 10 kt, he's like 4 with those modes

Also he has no idea how her regen works so why would he think to use them?

Also he's not bloodlusted

 

[Schnee_One]

What does bloodlusting have to do with using standard equipment?

 

[VersusJunkie54]

Ryuko is stronger than baseline 7-C and far enough into 7-C that it took a low 7-C several hours of continuous punches to just scratch and bruise her slightly

Without a calc, it cannot be assumed that Ryuko is beyond baseline.

 

[Schnee_One]

She's scaled to being far above a Low 7C.

Not even Low 7C+ if I recall

 

[WeeklyBattles]

@Gargoyle That was more in response to Rebuble

 

[LordGinSama]

Raiden can bypass her regen with one of his weapons, which he'll eventually use. Raiden doesn't neglect his weapons, so I think I'll go for Raiden after a long fight

 

[WeeklyBattles]

@Versus Shes defeated three baseline 7-Cs while taking very little damage despite being hit a lot by them

 

[CrimsonStarFallen]

Raiden is 7 kt.Also,pretty sure Ripper mode means Raiden is bloodlusted anyway.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Ryuko can also instantly oneshot hint as he is Low 7-C unless he goes ripper blade mode right from the start

 

[LordGinSama]

Ripper Mode is in a state of constant bloodlust hence the name "Ripper"

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Raiden can bypass her regen with one of his weapons, which he'll eventually use. Raiden doesn't neglect his weapons, so I think I'll go for Raiden after a long fight

One. Of several. While being a completely lower tier that ryuko can oneshot unless he goes ripper blade mode right from the start

 

[CrimsonStarFallen]

Op says both 7-C,so i think he starts at Ripper mode.

 

[LordGinSama]

Ryuko can also instantly oneshot hint as he is Low 7-C unless he goes ripper blade mode right from the start

Pretty sure the OP is using Ripper Mode Raiden from the start.

 

[LordGinSama]

@Weekly


Nothing you said changes anything, Raiden will eventually use those Scissor blades to attack with.