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Raiden (Metal Gear) vs Ryuko Matoi

Gargoyle One said:
<Sins doesn't like Akame
WHAT THE **** IS THIS??
I am sorry, but the anime is...

Well, I have nothing positive or negative to say.

But personally, been more of an Esdeath person.
 
@Weekly I've never heard of speed amps being considered in speed equalized threads.

Speed amps shouldn't be considered in speed equalized threads. Speed equalized means, just that. Speed equalized. What's the point of equalizing speed if you are going to then just unequalize it? It's redundant and pointless. You make the speeds unequal then it's no longer speed equalized. That'd be like "Goku vs Naruto with equal strength yet Goku can still use Kaioken to get stronger".

Also in our rules "When making a speed equalized match, all speed statistics are considered equalized, including speed gained through statitstic-amplifying techniques and transformations"

^ So no Raiden won't be getting any speed advantages here.
 
KinkiestSins said:
Gargoyle One said:
<Sins doesn't like Akame
WHAT THE **** IS THIS??
I am sorry, but the anime is...
Well, I have nothing positive or negative to say.

But personally, been more of an Esdeath person.
Bruh, Esdeath is a trash tier Waifu.

The Anime adaptation is indeed trash, as hard as it is for me, a big fan of the series to say.

Anyways, back on topic. I don't see how this is a stomp. Since Ryuko still has a chance to win via evolution shenanigans.
 
@Ryu it's been accepted for months now that speed amps are allowed in equalized matches
 
Ryukama said:
@Weekly I've never heard of speed amps being considered in speed equalized threads.
Speed amps shouldn't be considered in speed equalized threads. Speed equalized means, just that. Speed equalized. What's the point of equalizing speed if you are going to then just unequalize it? It's redundant and pointless. You make the speeds unequal then it's no longer speed equalized. That'd be like "Goku vs Naruto with equal strength yet Goku can still use Kaioken to get stronger".

Also in our rules "When making a speed equalized match, all speed statistics are considered equalized, including speed gained through statitstic-amplifying techniques and transformations"

^ So no Raiden won't be getting any speed advantages here.
I'm pretty sure it was decided awhile back that speed amps can be used in speed equal matches. Where've you been Ryu? I'm pretty sure there was a thread that covered this.
 
Worth noting

Raiden has zero ranged attacks.

Ryuko can just fly up and range spam
 
This is the 7-C version of Raiden

AKA the one that already has the speed amp

Why are we arguing he blitzes?
 
The Everlasting said:
This is the 7-C version of Raiden
AKA the one that already has the speed amp

Why are we arguing he blitzes?
Raiden gets faster with Blade Mode not just Ripper Mode.
 
The Everlasting said:
This is the 7-C version of Raiden

AKA the one that already has the speed amp

Why are we arguing he blitzes?
That's blade mode. This is ripper mode
 
The Everlasting said:
This is the 7-C version of Raiden
AKA the one that already has the speed amp

Why are we arguing he blitzes?
He doesn't.Blade mode is the amp,not Ripper mode.
 
"When making a speed equalized match, all speed statistics are considered equalized, including speed gained through statitstic-amplifying techniques and transformations"

^ Guess I'm the only one who reads the rules.

Also even if there's some thread where people agreed upon it it's still stupid. If that's an actual thing I'll probably make a CRT on it soon.
 
"When making a speed equalized match, all speed statistics are considered equalized, including speed gained through statitstic-amplifying techniques and transformations"

^ My copy paste hand is getting tired
 
Now, speed amping trough some Time or Reality shit is allowed in speed equal matches.
 
It apparently wasn't changed if this is still in the rules.

Time Stop and Time Slowing is different like Gargoyle said.

But allowing speed to get unequalized in a speed equalized match is super silly.
 
Ryukama said:
It apparently wasn't changed if this is still in the rules.
Time Stop and Time Slowing is different like Gargoyle said.

But allowing speed to get unequalized in a speed equalized match is super stupid.
I disagree heavly. (I'm looking for the thread where this was agreeded on)
 
Time Manipulation might give the effect of a blitz, but it isn't the character's actual speed. I can be fine with either allowing it or not allowing it. Allowing one's speed to become unequalized in a match where the entire point is that their speeds are equal is just ridiculous though.
 
"I disagree heavly."

You going to give a reason why?
 
Oh btw guys, Ever is right.

This is the version of raiden with the speed amp already.

I forgot about that as well.

I still think Raiden takes this, but considering how hammered into this was in the thread, worthy of mention.
 
Sigh. What I'm saying is


Speed amplification via some reality warping ability or time acceleration (and similar things) are allowed.
 
KinkiestSins said:
Oh btw guys, Ever is right.

This is the version of raiden with the speed amp already.

I forgot about that as well.

I still think Raiden takes this, but considering how hammered into this was in the thread, worthy of mention.
Bruh

Read the three posts after
 
Ryukama said:
Time Manipulation might give the effect of a blitz, but it isn't the character's actual speed. I can be fine with either allowing it or not allowing it. Allowing one's speed to become unequalized in a match where the entire point is that their speeds are equal is just ridiculous though.
Blade Mode is time slowing to 90%, so that would be allowed here.
 
At best, Blade Mode is really good speed amp or at worst, time slow

This was never decided unfortunately.
 
CrimsonStarFallen said:
Oh yeah,blade mode is time slow.How did i forgot that?
It was never decided on in the original MG CRT.

I think we decided it was a speed amp, not time slow.
 
Anyway, this thread is going nowhere now. And is just speed amp BS.

Raiden already won but apparently stomps.

Can someone just close this already?
 
But like, Ripper Mode is the Sub-Rel one.
 
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