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Raiden (Metal Gear) vs Ryuko Matoi

The whole "scissor like movement" exists because they can't attack on a molecular level and aren't fast enough.
 
WeeklyBattles said:
@Gargoyle As soon as rb mode ends she can oneshot, and she'll just be getting exponentially stronger from her zenkai due to taking a beating from him
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Since it's a gameplay mechanic, it won't end.
 
Now can someone please explain to me why raiden would just randomly assume he should use his shears for no reason without knowing about how to hypass Ryüko's regen beforehand?
 
By realizing that cutting doesn't work because common sense dictates not doing the same thing if it doesn't work.
 
I don't know Weekly, maybe because Raiden rotates his weapons? Obviously if he sees that his HF isn't being effective as it should be he'll switch to different methods. You act as if Raiden is some type of Neanderthal.
 
Gargoyle One said:
By realizing that cutting doesn't work because common sense dictates not doing the same thing if it doesn't work.
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And why would he switch to abother cutting weapon after coming to said revelation?
 
@Knight in ripper mode he is. He's in a blind rage.

If his hf sword isn't working why would he switch to another he blade? what sense done that make?
 
Poinciana1971 said:
Note: When Raiden fought Monsoon and activated his Ripper Mode against him, Raiden was in a true berserk mode, later it seems he found a way to synchronize and tame his berserk nature in order to fight better and use the Ripper's potential effectively against his opponents.
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WeeklyBattles said:
@Versus No, it was never stated because it's not hardened life fibers. It's just a strong sword that can cut life fibers.
I do not now nor would I ever exaggerate abilities. Sorry if you dont believe me but it's the truth.
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It's called the Burden of Proof. You claimed that the Scissor blade can regen, and did so with no evidence or scans whatsoever. You have neglected the Burden of Proof numerous times on Kill la Kill threads, and from what I've heard RWBY threads as well. You are an obvious big fan of both series, so naturally you hold some bias. So don't except me to beleive you just because you say so.
 
I'm voting for Raiden.

Raiden isn't stupid and he'll be quick to notice his normal attacks won't kill her. He'll start using different weapons and when he uses Sundowner's weapon it's game over.

He'ls far more skilled then her and has the speed advantage with Blade Mode. Raiden isn't going to go for a drawn out fight he'll try to finish this as quickly as possible.

I believe Raiden will be able to take out Ryuko before his energy runs out.
 
SchroKatze said:
No feats of hardened LF regenerating.
Also, LF regen is based on "if a cell has some part of it connected to another, it will regen".

Raiden molecular shit will cut the cells before they can regen. Its nots in a literal instant, its just fast. Not as fast as Raiden attacks that will sever the cells without leaving a "connection" between the parts
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And why would he switch to abother cutting weapon after coming to said revelation?

Because it doesn't work and he needs to switch tactics?

Raiden isn't a brain dead idiot like you're portraying him as, he uses a tactic, it doesn't work, so he switches it up.

Lemme put the fight into perspective

<Fight starts

Ryuko gets sliced to bits on blade contact

Zenkai

Ryuko gets close to cutting him.

Blade mode

Repeat only a bit more difficult for a while.

Raiden uses Pincers

This plays as he slices https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=N3472Q6kvg0

She is sliced in half.
 
So this is a stomp then. Apparently rb mode doesn't end so raiden just blitzes her to hell and back until he wins and she cant fight back.
 
WeeklyBattles said:
Now can someone please explain to me why raiden would just randomly assume he should use his shears for no reason without knowing about how to hypass Ryüko's regen beforehand?
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Raiden is a very cautious and analytical character. He never rushes into battle, prefering to watch from the sidelines, as seen in MGS4 and Rising. He can fight up close, but he prefers to rely on analysis for help in both games.

He has fought characters with regen in the past before (albeit shitty regen like Vamp and Armstrong).

Raiden generally speaking is one to use every tool in his arsenal to secure a win, I will admit he leans to his HF sword but he has fought people with 7-C capacity in the past and easily has the experience in this fight including but not limited to

Being a child soldier.

Fought against and defeated Vamp, twice.

Fought and defeated Solidus and 9 Metal Gear Ray units.

Fought an assortment of cyborgs in metal gear rising.

Has an experience as a tracker, such as when he taught Snake the skill.

The HF blade while it seems to be somewhat NLFed here, will still probably work on Ryuko's regen. It does cellular trauma, period.

The only person is known to resist it was Armstrong and Moonson thanks to higher defensive capabilities, which still didn't save them from being cut from the blade, just prolonged it.

I am gonna wake up from my grogginess and come up with a reason to vote later, but right now I lean to Raiden.

I will admit I am biased (MG > KK imho.)

But that is just a synopsis on why it should be possible.
 
Now you call it a stomp, but using NLF regen and "ulra ap and evolution advantage" its not the same as implying a stomp? Okay
 
When a sub related character with a dura ignoring weapon capable of bypassing the only thing keeping the regen of the other with said regen being the only thing keeping them in the match in the first place, yes, it's a stomp.
 
BTW 6-1 in favor of Raiden if Katze counts its 7

Don't count Pal's vote as it's shallow
 
Zenkai doesn't increase her speed, only her ap and durability. She will never in a million years hit raiden.
 
@Rapid ripper blade mode is a speed amp, even with equal speed raiden has a speed advantage
 
Weekly, just take the L and move on. Ryuko can still win, but this match is simply not in her favor.

You don't see me crying stomp whenever Akame loses a match. And that's my waifu.
 
@Versus Ryuko has no way to win or even fight fight a sub related character so no, this is not notable loss, this is a stomp
 
That's been accepted as a game mechanic for a long time but whatever.

Hey, thread question, what music plays in the background?
 
I don't need to say anything but this happens way too often where people debate for their preferred character then cry stomp afterwards.
 
C'mon no need to insult each other.

Anyways Raiden's speed should be equal to Ryuko's no matter what given the conditions of this match, and his Ripper Blade Mode shouldn't be assumed to last forever, unless there's a CRT that agrees upon that change.

How this impacts the match I'm not going to argue. However those should be factors in this.
 
KinkiestSins said:
VersusJunkie54 said:
Weekly, just take the L and move on. Ryuko can still win, but this match is simply not in her favor.
You don't see me crying stomp whenever Akame loses a match. And that's my waifu.
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>Akame
>Waifu

I thought you had decent taste in weeb stuff.

I am greatly disappointed in you.
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Then be disapointed. I really don't care, lol.
 
@Ryu Ripper blade Mode is a speed amp. Even with speed equalized he gets am speed advantage adds per our rules about speed amps in speed equalized matches
 
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