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Raiden (Metal Gear) vs Ryuko Matoi

WeeklyBattles said:
@Versus Shes defeated three baseline 7-Cs while taking very little damage despite being hit a lot by them
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Uhhhh Mako is the only Low 7-C in the verse if I'm not wrong? And didn't Mako completely curbstomp a ton of other two-stars in her first uniform?

Anyways, defeating a ton of Low 7-C's or taking a beating from a Low 7-C for several hours would still be baseline 7-C no matter how ya look at it. And even if it was above baseline, we cannot quantify exactly how far it goes. Also, Ryuko had instant High-Mid regen to help against her beating from Mako, so it's not as high as you think it is.
 
Ripper blade mode only lasts a few minutes and he goes berserk and doesn't think properly as as side effect, and ysing it leaves him drained
 
WeeklyBattles said:
Ripper blade mode only lasts a few minutes and he goes berserk and doesn't think properly as as side effect
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Raiden doesn't turn stupid in blade mode, he'll let himself get damaged yes but that's about it. And while he's in blade mode he'll be blitzing the shit out of Ryuko left and right.
 
I specifically remember him going berserk and not thinking clearly

And the mode only lasts for a short time, and ryuko can literally just fly out of his range if he tries to blitz her to death
 
WeeklyBattles said:
I specifically remember him going berserk and not thinking clearly
And the mode only lasts for a short time, and ryuko can literally just fly out of his range if he tries to blitz her to death
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How will Ryuko have time to fly away if she's already getting blitzed several times over?

Also, didn't Ryuko only evolve the ability to fly later in the story when she was fully synced with Senketsu and could fight evenly with Satsuki?
 
Because being attacked doesnt prevent her from flying?

No, flight was developed as a result of fighting nonon, it Ryüko's 7-C form
 
Lemme get this straight

Ryuko has:

Regenerationn

Raiden has:

Vastly superior skill

A way to beat her regen

Molecular bond severing means her blade gets cut in half

Blade mode means Ryuko gets obliterates every time she comes close to cutting him?

Am I wrong?
 
Yes, you are wrong. He has no knowledge of how to bypass Ryüko's regen, is in in a blind rage the entire fight, and high 7-C form only lasts lasts a few minutes and leaves him severely drained. He can damage Ryuko for a bit but he's not beating her.
 
Giving yourself kudos doesn't make your argument look any better Weekly, it does the opposite if anything.
 
As of right now there has been no actual legitimate argument for how raiden can win
 
WeeklyBattles said:
Yes, you are wrong. He has no knowledge of how to bypass Ryüko's regen, is in in a blind rage the entire fight, and high 7-C form only lasts lasts a few minutes and leaves him severely drained. He can damage Ryuko for a bit but he's not beating her.
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Then he beats her repeatedly until he decides to use it considering her only way to beat him is with her blade and he's laughably better in that department.

Oh wait she has no blade because Murasama shatters it
 
@Gargoyle Ripper mode would end long before he realized that, all the while shes getting exponentially stronger due to her zenkai

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The Scissor Blade has 7-A durability
 
@Rapid Its literally the reasoning for her, senketsu, nui, and Ragyo's Regenerationn.
 
WeeklyBattles said:
@Gargoyle Ripper mode would end long before he realized that, all the while shes getting exponentially stronger due to her zenkai
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It wouldn't end, as that's a game mechanic.

And that means nothing as bond severing ignores Dura.
 
@Gargoyle Its noted as a weakness on his profile that it only lasts a short time and under his powers section as draining more energy and leaving him drained
 
WeeklyBattles said:
The Scissor Blade is made of life fibers, it can likely regenerate
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This is complete and utter BS and I know it. The scissor blade is not a Life-Fiber Hybrid like Ryuko, Nui, or Senketsu. It was stated to be made of hardened life fibers, the same as Satsuki's blade.

And.....Satsuki's blade broke and didn't regenerate.
 
Then remove it.

It is gameplay mechanic as shown by literally the entire fight with Monsoon (Which is ironically the first time it appears in the plot)
 
Literally the only thing raiden has in his arsenal that can beat her is his shears, and due to being in ripper blade mode he will be too rage blinded blinded to think to use them before the mode ends and leaves him drained of energy, while Ryuko is much stronger from her zenkai due to being constantly beaten by raiden but not killed.
 
I'd like to ask.

You are arguing about how hard it will be for Raiden to kill her

What about Ryuko trying to kill him? Which will take ages for her to do.
 
@Gargoyle As soon as rb mode ends she can oneshot, and she'll just be getting exponentially stronger from her zenkai due to taking a beating from him
 
WeeklyBattles said:
@Versus Satsuki's sword isn't hardened life fibers
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I'm pretty sure I heard that it was. And even then, the Scissor blade has never displayed any regenerative abilities. And is explicitly shown and stated to be different from life fiber Hybrids like Ryuko, and Senketsu. Show me a scan of the scissor blade regenerating in any capacity then we'll talk.

Weekly, I feel like you have a massive tendency to exaggerate Kill la Kill abilities.
 
No feats of hardened LF regenerating.

Also, LF regen is based on "if a cell has some part of it connected to another, it will regen".

Raiden molecular shit will cut the cells before they can regen. Its nots in a literal instant, its just fast. Not as fast as Raiden attacks that will sever the cells without leaving a "connection" between the parts
 
@Versus No, it was never stated because it's not hardened life fibers. It's just a strong sword that can cut life fibers.

I do not now nor would I ever exaggerate abilities. Sorry if you dont believe me but it's the truth.
 
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