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Questioning the validity of tier 8 DC characters
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On the subject of DC i think I found something that could keep them in tier 8 (However it may be an outlier but the other feats I've linked make me think oterwise)
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Unless it's a whole host of feats within the same tier, I'm doubtful it's going to change our situation.
Kep's comment from earlier still applies. These characters have dozens upon dozens of showings (at least some of which are contradictory), spread across years of comics and connected issues. When we're dealing with so many feats across so many stories, we'd have to have at least 6-7 feats within the same tier range for an AP rating to even start looking consistent.
Kep's comment from earlier still applies. These characters have dozens upon dozens of showings (at least some of which are contradictory), spread across years of comics and connected issues. When we're dealing with so many feats across so many stories, we'd have to have at least 6-7 feats within the same tier range for an AP rating to even start looking consistent.
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Well I don't have a link on me but I found one where Bruce survives an MCB explosion which could be corroborated by the end ones I've already linked above
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I have a scan of Grey Hulk overpowering wonderman and knocking him away, would that change anything? Or is it not valid?Antvasima said:
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I would at least make an attempt to organize a revision myself, but I don't have a whole lot of scans for anything in Marvel or DC anymore, and despite the wealth of respect threads that exist, not all Marvel and DC characters have them, and some of them (like the last Doomsday RT I saw on ComicVine) aren't fully reliable and don't have all of the context attached.
I'm also neck-deep in the Dark Tower revisions that're being organized, among numerous other things.
I'm also neck-deep in the Dark Tower revisions that're being organized, among numerous other things.
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@Peter
The Grey Hulk was treated as below Wonder Man's power level during the 1980s. We cannot scale from an outlier that was introduced in a flashback decades later.
Here is Kepekley23 planet-splitting calculation: https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/U...Comics:_Hulk_destroying_the_asteroid_(recalc)
@MrKingOfNegativity
Well, when Spider-Man pushed himself to his limits, he supported a skyscraper. That is probably High 8-C in terms of potential energy.
The 8-A characters also seem more consistently portrayed as 9-A or 8-C, so those are the level of feats that you all need to look for.
I am uncertain what to do about the High 6-C characters. I suppose that they could technically scale from the Grey Hulk, but they do not remotely have feats on that level themselves, as far as I am aware.
The Grey Hulk was treated as below Wonder Man's power level during the 1980s. We cannot scale from an outlier that was introduced in a flashback decades later.
Here is Kepekley23 planet-splitting calculation: https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/U...Comics:_Hulk_destroying_the_asteroid_(recalc)
@MrKingOfNegativity
Well, when Spider-Man pushed himself to his limits, he supported a skyscraper. That is probably High 8-C in terms of potential energy.
The 8-A characters also seem more consistently portrayed as 9-A or 8-C, so those are the level of feats that you all need to look for.
I am uncertain what to do about the High 6-C characters. I suppose that they could technically scale from the Grey Hulk, but they do not remotely have feats on that level themselves, as far as I am aware.
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The High 6-C characters scale from Iron Man Model-9; but yeah, we're trying to avoid scaling tiers based on Marvel database. Especially since Tier and lifting strength are two different things.
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Anyway, I would appreciate if somebody could start a thread intended to rescale all of the current 5-B Marvel characters to 5-A instead, by scaling from Kepekley23's calculation of the Grey Hulk feat. It would be a start at least.
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For what it's worth here is the scan If you want to take a look https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11111/111113173/3924497-16.jpg
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Hmm so you suggest an upgrade to High 5-A for Namor and co?
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The thing has fought wonderman also.
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Sounds consistent
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I knew which story you referred to without the scan. It happened as a flashback long after the Grey Hulk era was over and gone, and contradicts his general portrayal.
You can ask the following members to give input here regarding what we should do with the 5-B and High 5-A Marvel profiles:
Matthew Schroeder, Sandman31, Azathoth the Abyssal Idiot, Ryukama, Reppuzan, Shivansh Garg, KLOL506, Zensum, TheC2, Nether nine, Crimson Azoth, Eficiente, Spinosaurus75DinosaurFan, The Archdemon, Kepekley23.
You can ask the following members to give input here regarding what we should do with the 5-B and High 5-A Marvel profiles:
Matthew Schroeder, Sandman31, Azathoth the Abyssal Idiot, Ryukama, Reppuzan, Shivansh Garg, KLOL506, Zensum, TheC2, Nether nine, Crimson Azoth, Eficiente, Spinosaurus75DinosaurFan, The Archdemon, Kepekley23.
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https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11116/111165914/5402323-9529825454-49033.jpg and https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/7/72524/3867242-3966096931-TG5_v.jpg these? And yeah we should start a new thread.
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I suppose so, but the problem is that Wonder Man is generally considered to be in-between the Thing and Thor level nowadays. Still, the difference shouldn't be enormous. Maybe it would be better to merge together the 5-B and High 5-A Marvel characters in some manner after all?
I would need input from other knowledgeable members first though. You can follow my earlier instructions.
I would need input from other knowledgeable members first though. You can follow my earlier instructions.
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