Question about the Endless

[Skytheblue]

Isn't it confirmed that the Endless are far far stronger than the Thought Robot? So why are they only "likely High 1-B" while the TR is just a solid High 1-B? If they're stronger than a High 1-B being, than obviously they should definitely be High 1-B as well?

 

[The_Everlasting]

As far as I know that's never confirmed.

 

[Skytheblue]

Nah dude it's confirmed.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Scans? That's a pretty big claim with nothing to back it up.

 

[Saikou_The_Lewd_King]

Best debate.

"But it's not confirmed."

"Nah it's confirmed."

 

[Js250476]

Are they ever even compared to Thought robot?

 

[Amexim]

Aren't the Endless embodiments of reality that not even the Presence can touch? Doesn't that include the Beyonders, the Supermen, and therefore Cosmic Armor Superman/Thought Robot? Or is your boi mistaken?

 

[Skytheblue]

Doesn't that include the Beyonders, the Supermen, and therefore Cosmic Armor Superman/Thought Robot? Or is your boi mistaken?

That's Marvel my dude.

 

[Js250476]

Nah Beyonders are Beyond Marvel now ovo

 

[Antvasima]

Even if they are above the Thought Robot, this does not guarantee them anything more than being a higher degree of infinite-dimensional.

Also, most of them are manifestations of aspects of the multiverse, i.e. constructs of space and time. That makes them High 1-B per definition.

 

[Saikou_The_Lewd_King]

I think that the OP meant more that this should solidify their High 1-B rating. Outright "High 1-B" rather than "Likely HIgh 1-B".

 

[Antvasima]

Okay. I suppose that makes sense. I was not aware that they had "Likely" ratings.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

He still has yet to provide scans to back up his claim

 

[Antvasima]

I will ask Matthew for input.

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

They should be outright High 1-B.

 

[Antvasima]

Okay. Feel free to adjust them accordingly.

 

[Antvasima]

@WeeklyBattles

Destiny was shown at the top of the DC multiversal hierarchy in Grant Morrison's Multiversity map.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Ah, okay

 

[Skytheblue]

@Ant

Yeah I wasn't trying to upgrade them to 1-A or anything lol. I just wanna get rid of the "likely" part.

 

[Skytheblue]

@WeeklyBattles
Destiny was shown at the top of the DC multiversal hierarchy in Grant Morrison's Multiversity map.

Well Destiny is far more powerful than the other Endless IIRC so I don't think they would scale just because Destiny was shown to be at the top of the multiversal hierarchy. And Destiny is already "at least High 1-B".

 

[Antvasima]

That is true.

 

[Burstchaos]

Isn't Destiny High 1-B for affecting Lucifer?

 

[Antvasima]

"At least High 1-B". You can read more justifications in his profile: Destiny of the Endless

 

[Skytheblue]

I suppose that despite being weaker, the other Endless should at least be somewhat comparable to Destiny. So if Destiny is at the top of the multiversal hierarchy, than the other Endless should exist at that level as well. So I agree that all the Endless should be outright High 1-B, with Destiny being "at least High 1-B". And there's no way the Endless are inferior to the TR. So there's that.

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

The Endless are the DCU itself:

https://static.comicvine.com/upload...lopedia+looks+over+the+aspects+of+reality.jpg

They are by definition above all beings who don't transcend the Multiverse itself.

 

[Amexim]

Woops, confused the beyonders with the monitors, I think...? My bad.

 

[Skytheblue]

I think it's pretty clear that the Endless are indeed outright High 1-B. Can someone do the changes now?

 

[Antvasima]

@Matthew

Have you adjusted their profiles?

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

Will do now.

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

Done.

 

[Antvasima]

Thank you. Should we close this thread then?

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

I'll do it.