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Queen and Wano Sanji scaling: The final AP/Scaling discussion.
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DaMonkeMan
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Seems like it didn't hurt her and it was more of a distraction for Law to jump on her.
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She was yelling in pain.
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Made her scream in pain & had her holding her head afterwards.
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Not comparable to the Brachio situation since Law's Takt isn't dependant on gravity and Queen's attack is.
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How is Takt not dependent on gravity when he literally drops a giant rock on his target(s)?
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Being pushed down with the force of his takt.
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This, yeah.
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That makes sense.
But either way, Kidd's Punk Clash and Takt show that Yonko can be hurt by mundane objects.
DaMonkeMan
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At the end of the day it really is just him jumping off something and headbutting someone.
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No, it's not. He's actively jumping downwards. He's not just dropping off the cliff. He's using his legs to propel himself.
DaMonkeMan
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I said that..
DaMonkeMan
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How the **** is him jumping off a cliff the deciding factor for it not being an outlier?
DaMonkeMan
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Oh brother.
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You ain't KT, stop stealing his catchphrases.
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Wtf is happening here?
Are y'all really trying to use "it was just the kinetic energy of him falling" to downplay Queen's feat to tier 8 or something? Bro, wtf.
Guys, let me tell you all something, this is fiction and we're talking about vs scaling, if a 6C character throws a rock at someone or jumps towards someone, it doesn't matter how big the rock is or the KE of the human body jumping, it will be a 6C attack, or are y'all going to downgrade every swordsman in fiction to 9C max because they "only have the KE of moving a sword"? WTF? No one is saying this in any verse i know of, but suddenly in OP things like this become a problem?
Are y'all really trying to use "it was just the kinetic energy of him falling" to downplay Queen's feat to tier 8 or something? Bro, wtf.
And again with the bullshit that "oh it was just a rock so they shouldn't be harmed"
Guys, let me tell you all something, this is fiction and we're talking about vs scaling, if a 6C character throws a rock at someone or jumps towards someone, it doesn't matter how big the rock is or the KE of the human body jumping, it will be a 6C attack, or are y'all going to downgrade every swordsman in fiction to 9C max because they "only have the KE of moving a sword"? WTF? No one is saying this in any verse i know of, but suddenly in OP things like this become a problem?
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The lengths people go to enforce their agendas and downplay certain characters is honestly astonishing
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Actually would only be like tier 9 realistically
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King's explosion feat was only calced at like 7-A, and yet Zoro said it'd kill him. Is that an outlier?
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Who is?
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This is completely different; explosions are inherently lowballed by the formula because it doesn’t work with an overpressure over 20 psi (though the overpressure of King’s explosion must have been WAY higher than 20 psi in order to be a threat to Zoro)
The KE of a falling brachiosaurus is as simple as you can get
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That was just a single example. There are several feats that when calced, don't yield results even close to High 6-A, yet threaten characters of that level. You're talking my example far too literally.
DaMonkeMan
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First of all it's not like Law was bringing down one rock on her, it was a big ass pile of rocks on her entire body.
Not to mention he could have, y'know, strengthened the rock or something.
Similar to Luffy spitting a pile of big rocks at Lucci and Lucci busting one with Armament.
We didn't downgrade him to building level or something because of that.
Not to mention he could have, y'know, strengthened the rock or something.
Similar to Luffy spitting a pile of big rocks at Lucci and Lucci busting one with Armament.
We didn't downgrade him to building level or something because of that.
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You're missing the point, as all of you have the past page this thread has been going on for.
Queen's Brachio Bomber is not him jumping off a cliff and letting gravity run its course. He's using his strength to propel himself forward in order to damage Big Mom. It's in no way an outlier.
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The individuals claiming that Brachio Bomber is what it isn't.
DaMonkeMan
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We've been disagreeing with it since the thread began and now it's because we have agendas?
There's a reason this has been tried before and rejected before.
Queen was getting boxed by Marco who scales to BM and all of a sudden you think he scales to BM when he doesn't even scale to Marco.
There's a reason this has been tried before and rejected before.
Queen was getting boxed by Marco who scales to BM and all of a sudden you think he scales to BM when he doesn't even scale to Marco.
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How does he use his strength to propel himself forward when he hasn't shown the ability to move freely in air
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DaMonkeMan
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The anime exaggerates the scene pretty heavily.
DaMonkeMan
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Also again, the attack didn't really hurt her. Her head had 0 visible damage/dents in it and she didn't even notice that he attacked her.
Even after it, Queen pissed his pants at the thought of her fighting him.
He was just relying on her being hungry, amnesiac, and completely unaware and unguarded.
Even after it, Queen pissed his pants at the thought of her fighting him.
He was just relying on her being hungry, amnesiac, and completely unaware and unguarded.
DaMonkeMan
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..So did BM?
She just noted she had a headache but she had no notable damage from it.
Plus Kaidou got a headache from falling 10000 feet, we never made the ground H6A for that.
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That's correct. During the Rooftop Battle, Zoro expressed concern about Queen's Zoan form and recognized it as a formidable threat. He even commented that Queen's ability to transform into a Brachiosaurus was troublesome, indicating that he considered it to be a a significant advantage. So its safe to say that Zoro viewed Queen's Zoan as a powerful opponent.
It's true that Kaido is incredibly durable and has shown resistance to various attacks, including blunt force trauma. However it is not necessarily an outlier for him to be hurt by a large object like a boulder, especially if its thrown with enough force. It's also worth noting that Kaido was not in his dragon form when he was hit by the boulder, which may have affected his durability. Whether or not it's an outlier depends on your interpretation of Kaido's feats and the circumstances of the scene.
That is correct. It's important to note that the attack from Queen with Brachio Bomber did not cause any visible damage to Big Mom, and she did not even seem to notice it. Additionally, Queens reaction to the attack indicates that he was aware that it did not significantly harm her and that he was intimidated by her potential power if she were to fight back. Therefore it would not be accurate to use this attack as evidence of Big Mom's weakness or lack of durability.
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That's true, Queen was able to withstand the impact of his own Brachio Bomber without any visible injury or harm. This shows that he has a significant level of durability and resilience. However it's important to note that the circumstances of the attack, such as Big Mom's amnesia and hunger, could have also played a role in how much damage was inflicted.
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stop trying to scale queen to yonko level characters
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