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Puss in Boots: The Last Wish Discussion Thread

Eh? Did you not see his body got impacted by mere his appearance to the point he got flashbacks there? This is due to his weapon. This is my argument for fear hax even if it is not accepted in this website standards.
 
ImmortalDread said:
Eh? Did you not see his body got impacted by mere his appearance to the point he got flashbacks there? This is due to his weapon. This is my argument for fear hax even if it is not accepted in this website standards.
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That's just PTSD...that's literally a real life thing. I would know from experience. And it's from more than Death's weapon.

There is no evidence of fear hax anywhere. It's not really a matter of standards either. The way Puss reacted to Death's actions were very real and normal.
 
RinneItachi said:
That's just PTSD...that's literally a real life thing. I would know from experience. And it's from more than Death's weapon.

There is no evidence of fear hax anywhere. It's not really a matter of standards either. The way Puss reacted to Death's actions were very real and normal.
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Giving someone PTSD is under my definition and yours a direct manipulation/impaction of giving fear which falls under the notion of fear hax.
 
ImmortalDread said:
Giving someone PTSD is under my definition and yours a direct manipulation/impaction of giving fear which falls under the notion of fear hax.
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If he had fear hax puss wouldnt do that whole ending fight since he would be scared. Only way it would happen is if Puss somehow gained a resistance to it which makes no sense
 
Having willpower can surpass fear hax, what- this is not anti-feat at all.
 
ImmortalDread said:
Giving someone PTSD is under my definition and yours a direct manipulation/impaction of giving fear which falls under the notion of fear hax.
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Not through a supernatural ability. People have given me real PTSD in real traumatic events, that doesn't mean they "fear haxed" me lmao. What you're talking about is social influencing at BEST, and even that is a reach. If the wiki you're talking about treats social influencing as fear manipulation, that's another problem entirely.
 
RinneItachi said:
Not through a supernatural ability. People have given me real PTSD in real traumatic events, that doesn't mean they "fear haxed" me lmao. What you're talking about is social influencing. If the wiki you're talking about treats social influencing as fear manipulation, that's another problem entirely.
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World war has passive fear hax? Confirmed?? :eek::eek:
 
RinneItachi said:
Not through a supernatural ability. People have given me real PTSD in real traumatic events, that doesn't mean they "fear haxed" me lmao. What you're talking about is social influencing at BEST, and even that is a reach. If the wiki you're talking about treats social influencing as fear manipulation, that's another problem entirely.
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I want to hear how they give you one. Because if it is indirectly, then it is irrelevant to our conversation.
 
Or I guess common school bullies has fear hax since they give kids PTSD as well
 
How is this even social influencing? Eh, lets agree to disagree, besides I am not using vsbw standards.
 
Propellus said:
Or I guess common school bullies has fear hax since they give kids PTSD as well
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indirectly, those all examples you are guys giving is indirectly influencing. Here are talking about direct impaction.
 
ImmortalDread said:
indirectly, those all examples you are guys giving is indirectly influencing. Here are talking about direct impaction.
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Imagine having a bounty hunter that outclasses you heavily that wants to kill you and think you barely survived one of their attacks. Wouldnt you be scared? Its not fear hax just being mad creepy
 
What even IS your argument at this point? Death attacked Puss in a bar with intent to kill, demonstrated he is vastly superior in combat, landing a blade on him for the first time in his lives, with Puss in Boots already being on edge because he just learned he's on his last life, and because of all those things together, Puss in Boots realized that he might actually die this time for real, with no chance of coming back, and it absolutely terrified him to the point that he ran and hid in retirement, until discovering that the wishing star was real and that he could get his lives back, which confirms that he wasn't directly scared of Death/the Wolf. He was scared of dying, and because the Wolf COULD kill him, Puss was terrified of the Wolf by extension.
 
RinneItachi said:
Making a person terrified of you by trying to kill them isn't fear hax. By that logic, literally normal, random ass humans have fear hax.
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He literally got feared hax when he pulled out the weapon, before he did not. The first meeting, he did not even fear hax him.

Either way, why are we debating? I am not following this standards of vsbw.
 
ImmortalDread said:
no I won't, my skin won't go up and let me give me flashbacks
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Egotistical Andy. War veterans can go into manic frenzies just because of sounds that remind them of battlefields. I had nightmares and flashbacks of traumatic events that happened to me and can occasionally forget my surroundings even because of it.

Please don't insult people who have actual PTSD. One of the reasons WHY Puss in Boots is so loved is because the way they depict PTSD and panic attacks is very realistic. The scene with Puss having a panic attack and Perrito helping him (Perrito Anti-Fear Hax ability CRT?) is widely considered one of the best scenes in the movie because of it.
 
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I am not even insulting anyone, the cat did not have any PTSD, so idk why you are bringing this argument in this table.
 
ImmortalDread said:
He literally got feared hax when he pulled out the weapon, before he did not. The first meeting, he did not even fear hax him.

Either way, why are we debating? I am not following this standards of vsbw.
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We're debating because you're saying Death has feax hax when he doesn't. This isn't a matter of "standard's", it still wouldn't apply to him even on that wiki, by the standard's mentioned on the wiki you're talking about. And the funny thing is that the wiki you're talking about literally says "This page was based on a page from the VS Battles Wiki or they made the original page. All credit goes to them." at the top. Lol.
 
You are aware that the standards of the site is freedom of everyone's scaling? And this is my scaling and my own personal thoughts on said character.
 
ImmortalDread said:
I am not even insulting anyone, the cat did not have any PTSD, so idk why you are bringing this argument in this table.
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It's an insult to people who've actually gone through traumatic events like this to act tough and say you wouldn't be scared in their shoes. Puss in Boots very clearly has PTSD based on his reaction to just seeing the Wolf or hearing the whistle.
 
So if I say I am not scared, I am insulting a group? What? I did not even bring this type of conv at all. Cat did not have PTSD when he saw death.
 
ImmortalDread said:
You are aware that the standards of the site is freedom of everyone's scaling? And this is my scaling and my own personal thoughts on said character.
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Yes, and we disagreed with your scaling, to which you defended it and thus started an argument over it. You are free to hold personal opinions, and we are free to disagree with them, and voice our disagreements. If we were being rude about it or mocking you over it, there'd be a problem, but not to just disagree with your opinion that you shared. This is a DEBATE forum, if you share an opinion here, and someone disagrees with it, expect them to say something.
 
ImmortalDread said:
So if I say I am not scared, I am insulting a group? What? I did not even bring this type of conv at all. Cat did not have PTSD when he saw death.
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Saying you wouldn't be scared in a life-threatening situation that would give almost ANYONE PTSD is immature and insulting. Yes, saying you wouldn't be scared from the traumatic event of having someone almost murder you is an insult to a lot of people.
 
RinneItachi said:
Yes, and we disagreed with your scaling, to which you defended it and thus started an argument over it.
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Thanks for disagreeing, but again, I am nowhere obligated to stick to your view over this ability.
RinneItachi said:
You are free to hold personal opinions
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Oh, thanks for allowing me!
RinneItachi said:
, and we are free to disagree with them
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Never suggested otherwise
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, and voice our disagreements.
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I mean, if I disallowed it, we would not have this conv.
RinneItachi said:
If we were being rude about it or mocking you over it, there'd be a problem, but not to just disagree with your opinion that you shared.
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I did not even feel offended, whaa
RinneItachi said:
This is a DEBATE forum, if you share an opinion here, and someone disagrees with it, expect them to say something.
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I don't even remember saying anything to this, you seem to feel offended on the other side
 
RinneItachi said:
Saying you wouldn't be scared in a life-threatening situation that would give almost ANYONE PTSD is immature and insulting. Yes, saying you wouldn't be scared from the traumatic event of having someone almost murder you is an insult to a lot of people.
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You are completely free to report me to RvR if you think me not getting scared in that situation is insulting and offensive (which is somehow immature from you, since eh? Everyone has their limits?)
 
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