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Puss in Boots: The Last Wish Discussion Thread

Also, should Jack have some degree of resistance to Social Influencing? He is a quite literally pure evil, undeniably irredeemable monster that has genuinely no empathy at all. Even Jiminy Cricket, whose existence is to be people's conscience and help guide them onto the right path, made absolutely no progress in making Jack a better person, and outright gave up trying to do so. That right there is my argument in itself. Jiminy Cricket has very blatant Social Influencing in the same form as character's like Steven Universe or Frisk, which Jack was utterly unaffected by. So logically it also wouldn't work if they tried it. But I'd consider it a "limited" or "minor" resistance, as Social Influencing can do a lot more than that, he just resists the more empathic side of Social Influencing.
 
RinneItachi said:
Also, should Jack have some degree of resistance to Social Influencing? He is a quite literally pure evil, undeniably irredeemable monster that has genuinely no empathy at all. Even Jiminy Cricket, whose existence is to be people's conscience and help guide them onto the right path, made absolutely no progress in making Jack a better person, and outright gave up trying to do so. That right there is my argument in itself. Jiminy Cricket has very blatant Social Influencing in the same form as character's like Steven Universe or Frisk, which Jack was utterly unaffected by. So logically it also wouldn't work if they tried it. But I'd consider it a "limited" or "minor" resistance, as Social Influencing can do a lot more than that, he just resists the more empathic side of Social Influencing.
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Based on the fact that he quite literally speaking lack any empathy, the ******* Cricket itself gave up with him, and how he was unaffected by the cute face puppy face, he indeed should be one of those rare cases of character having listed resistance to SI (of couse making clear what his resistance would be, a lack of complete empathy).
 
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Expectro2000xxx said:
Based on the fact that he quite literally speaking lack any empathy, the ******* Cricket itself gave up with him, and how he was unaffected by the cute face puppy face, he indeed should be one of those rare cases of character having listed resistance to SI (of couse making clear what his resistance would be, a lack of complete empathy
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Oh I forgot about the Perrito stare.

Considering that it was the end of a built-up joke about Perrito learning the stare from Kitty over the course of the movie, and seemed to actually be an effective form of the stare, it's natural to assume it should scale to Puss' and Kitty's versions somewhat. And it had no effect, as you mention.
 
RinneItachi said:
So Optional Equipment for Kitty Softpaws and I think Jack Horner, but I can't remember if he had it. Probably a large building or city block level feat.
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Jack Horner never used its wave thing, so idk. Though if we give it to wielders of the trident, Puss and Goldilocks also get this
 
Gilad_Hyperstar said:
Though if we give it to wielders of the trident, Puss and Goldilocks also get this
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They never even used it, just kinda had it in their possession for like, 10 seconds each. Meanwhile, both Jack and Softpaws use it to some extent. Actually, this lines up with what Jack said about Kitty working for him. Who would have though a Blue-Ray extra would connect so many dots.
 
Expectro2000xxx said:
Could he even use it to begin with considering that in no moment he was close to a big body of water?
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Well, if a thread maker makes it so they are near a body of water, and gives him the trident, then he could pull this feat off.
 
Da3ggman said:
Well, if a thread maker makes it so they are near a body of water, and gives him the trident, then he could pull this feat off.
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Considering all of them saw what the trident does an how to do it, and Jack probably knows how to use it too, this can work if they'd use a sufficently large body of water around
 
Hey, should Puss get an "At most" rating because of how many inconsistences and variable his feats/showings and limitations are throughout the series? Like he goes from being flung by a giant, launching grown men hundreds of meters away with a sword swing, harming Shrek, to dying from a group of dogs, being run over by bulls, used for a cannonball, squished by a bell and a 300 something pound barbell.
 
They literally are gags, I don't know why they're really taken as anti-feats, and even then, most of Puss's feats probably outweighs them
 
BruhMomento0260 said:
Hey, should Puss get an "At most" rating because of how many inconsistences and variable his feats/showings and limitations are throughout the series? Like he goes from being flung by a giant, launching grown men hundreds of meters away with a sword swing, harming Shrek, to dying from a group of dogs, being run over by bulls, used for a cannonball, squished by a bell and a 300 something pound barbell.
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The deaths are outliers/gags.
 
BruhMomento0260 said:
Hey, should Puss get an "At most" rating because of how many inconsistences and variable his feats/showings and limitations are throughout the series? Like he goes from being flung by a giant, launching grown men hundreds of meters away with a sword swing, harming Shrek, to dying from a group of dogs, being run over by bulls, used for a cannonball, squished by a bell and a 300 something pound barbell.
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Gags. In the same way Saitama getting hurt by a cat or Goku getting hurt by Bulma aren't considered relevant, neither are these. But even if they were acknowledged, it'd just be a durability downgrade, nothing else.
 
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So, when is Puss in Boots going to have this many titles?
 
Propellus said:
No matter, still the best movie out of all the shrek movies
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I agree it's the best, but I think a lot of us also have understandable recency bias. Considering that all the good Shrek movies are over a decade older than this, it's not hard to think we'd be forgetting about how good they were. But I'd still say that most people who think they were better are still going off nostalgia bias as well. Basically; Puss In Boots better, but Shrek is still great.
 
Da3ggman said:
So...we got some more information on the Trident, and, oh boy, it honestly might be the most powerful calculable feat in the entire God damn series. In the Blue-Ray extras, we get to see what the trident can really do. I do think this should be treated as canon, since it doesn't contradict anything, and it even provides more context on the Cannon Ball death in the movie.
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Off-topic, but people are saying you can apparently see Death in the scene when Puss claims to want to get shot out of the cannon. Is that true, because I don't see him?
 
MARVEL_Future_Fight_Gamer said:
Off-topic, but people are saying you can apparently see Death in the scene when Puss claims to want to get shot out of the cannon. Is that true, because I don't see him?
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What are people on to see Death in this scene? Like I legit went frame by frame to try to find him, I can't even see more than 5 people on the ship, let alone Death.
 
TheMonkeMan said:
Brother/Sister in christ that's just a couple pixels.
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I figured. Some random comment on Death's WikiShrek page claimed this and I just don't see it either
shrek.fandom.com

Death

Death, also referred to as the Wolf or Lobo, is the physical embodiment of death, who takes the form of a white wolf in a black poncho. He is intent on killing the legendary Puss in Boots once and for all, as punishment for carelessly wasting eight of his nine lives. Death is a large...
shrek.fandom.com shrek.fandom.com
 
MARVEL_Future_Fight_Gamer said:
I figured. Some random comment on Death's WikiShrek page claimed this and I just don't see it either
shrek.fandom.com

Death

Death, also referred to as the Wolf or Lobo, is the physical embodiment of death, who takes the form of a white wolf in a black poncho. He is intent on killing the legendary Puss in Boots once and for all, as punishment for carelessly wasting eight of his nine lives. Death is a large...
shrek.fandom.com shrek.fandom.com
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I hate Wikis ( besides certain ones like this ) because anyone can edit em and the moderation is low.
 
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