Puella Magi Discussion Thread V

[RKGenki]

I didn't actually get exactly what witch you're talking about, but if you know the status she inflicts you can look up for a memoria which negates the status, then if you have it just equip it to your strongest mg, if not you can check from the support if someone has it (btw usually for the first chapters of the story a random 5 star mg should be enough to solo most quests)

 

[Homu_Sweet_Homu]

I'm talking about the one who spam poison effect memoria, the with also has some passive defense so even if I used level 80 dark type mg, the damage isn't as great .

 

[RKGenki]

Is it this one?

I too had problems the first time I fought it, try going in with one meguca + a strong support, this way is easier to get the support's attack disks and use connects

 

[Homu_Sweet_Homu]

Yes, that one. And I think I will try your suggestion.

 

[SomebodyData]

That new doppel sounds like it could have a decent ability with the entire compression/crystallization of memories.

...

Wait a second

 

[RKGenki]

Honestly, that took me off guard

 

[SomebodyData]

@Kal should we make a discussion thread regarding a witches' pocket reality?

 

[Kaltias]

What do you mean?

 

[SomebodyData]

How it would be treated in a vs thread (Like whether or not an enemy would start there).

 

[Kaltias]

Maybe? Wouldn't hurt to do it, that's for sure. Opinions are always welcome

 

[RKGenki]

I also agree with that, it can really change the course of matchups

Btw how much do we have right now for a crt?

 

[SomebodyData]

https://vsbattles.com/vsbattles/1491839 Done.

 

[Kaltias]

Well might as well hear some thoughts on this.

Should Final Timeline Madoka and those who scale be "At least Planet level+, likely far higher"?

Reason being how astronomically above 5-Bs they are (aka 95 degrees of "so hilariously superior that being in the same tier feels wrong")

@RK

Not sure. This thing proposed above, the extra abilities for Madoka, and cross-country range for Homulilly I think

 

[Peter1129]

Yeah they should be Likely Far Higher. I was kinda wondering why they didn't have that like Reinhard and Methuselah's Profile.

 

[RKGenki]

And yet still no certain proof of hax upscaling *cries

I think we could try to put it in the crt as there are multiple things that imply it, at least to see what others think

Btw I agree with the Likely far higher too, I mean right now it's like as if she has whatever is the ap needed for 5-A minus 0.00000000000000001, specifying is more than needed

 

[Kaltias]

I'd rather wait until we get more info from Magia Record before trying with the upscaling stuff tbh (Mostly due to the Rumors who have potential in that sense)

Madoka's AP is pretty much always going to be "The next tier minus 1 Joule" unless we get a legitimate tier 4/3 statement for her final timeline self tbh. Legitimately "outlier" for her starts at High 3-A/Infinite speed and even then i could argue that it isn't outlierish.

 

[RKGenki]

Well, let's wait then

Btw aren't some of Homura's inconclusives outdated? For Shion, she doesn't have a 7-C key anymore, and for the lavos one it should be due to the upgrade to her mind manip as it was said that lavos would have been able to resist it (granted, removing that might lead to another match between them, I dunno if it is a good idea)

 

[Homu_Sweet_Homu]

Didn't the reason Lavy can resist mindhax from Homu eas because the Infinite M-Bodies thing?

 

[RKGenki]

If I recall correctly it was because it scaled the resistance from someone, if not homura would have mindhaxed the other lavos too

 

[Kaltias]

Shion has Low-Godly anyway so AP doesn't change much.

Lavos, at best she sends the acausal dupe in front of her unconscious but doesn't impact the match too much at the end of the day. That and I really don't want to debate that match again

 

[RKGenki]

I don't want to debate it too

But Homura gets oneshot as she's low 7-C phisically and her BFR was downgraded in her base form, I doubt it"s fair anymore

 

[Kaltias]

Hmmm, true.

We debated it in the middle of the WA revisions so she had the nonexistence BFR in base. I'll remove it

 

[RKGenki]

So, let's say I wanted to try translating Rebellion's production notes, and since I don't know Japanese (yet) I'd need to use a translator, which one would you reccommend me, seeing as there are a lot of hand written sections?

(Going to sleep now so I'll see this tomorrow)

 

[Kaltias]

Obviously it's nowhere near as accurate as an actual translation but:

1) Cut the image into multiple smaller images (Paint works well enough) containing a single sentence (Like this)

2) Use a program to scan the image (Like this one)

3) This translator is decent enough

4) (Hopefully) profit

 

[Monarch_Laciel]

I feel like Cal looking at Digimon.

Except BB is pokemon and PM is Digimon

Except Nasu and PM aren't really rivals...

So the comparison breaks down a bit...

Oh well

 

[Kaltias]

So you have a love and hate relationship with PMMM now? ovo

 

[Kisaragi_Megumi]

Nah,Nasu and PM are best rival thought :v

 

[Monarch_Laciel]

Nah

Just the feeling of watching one verse getting upgraded really fast at all these feats and statements coming in, while my beloved BB takes a 200+ comment thread to get an upgrade and gets shafted even when she gets it.

 

[Kisaragi_Megumi]

Yare yare,i feel ya :v

Meanwhile,the Masada upgrade is abandoned because it was outlier

 

[RKGenki]

Snip

Thank you Kal, I'll start as soon as I have time (probably this afternoon)

 

[Holyhotsauce]

Most of the production notes for Rebellio. (I think, Its at least a lot of them)

 

[RKGenki]

That's were I was getting them, already downloaded the first two pages yesterday

 

[Homu_Sweet_Homu]

Still no words for the upscaling hax I pressume.

 

[Kaltias]

Hax upscaling is the new Low-Godly based on Soul Gems ovo.

 

[Monarch_Laciel]

• Glares at Kal*

Boi

 

[Homu_Sweet_Homu]

Hopefully the Concept movie can provides us that.

I mean, imagine of Homu used timestop on Omnipresent being.

.

I'll leave now.

 

[Monarch_Laciel]

I see nothing wrong with this ovo

 

[Kaltias]

About Low-Godly, i'll just leave this here.

Witches do make a 100% new body out of the Grief Seed when they are "born" (As evidenced by both Sayaka and Madoka)

Although, it probably isn't enough to say that they can do it in combat.

 

[RKGenki]

If only transforming in witches was allowed in matchups

 

[Monarch_Laciel]

See, the problem I have with Low-Godly is that it's meant to be regenerating from something incorporeal or from another plane of existence. Soul Gems / Grief Seeds are neither of those.

But I have a question

Most Witches come from corrupted Magical Girls.

But what about witches that come from familiars? Can't they also develop into witches, hence why Kyoko lets them go?

Also, should witches get resurrection based on if their Grief Seeds remains are saturated with enough curses, they come back?