Puella Magi Discussion Thread V

[Kaltias]

Nothing particular. I know what it can do to a person's mind but that's about it

 

[SomebodyData]

Hmmm dang, currently all I have is info suggesting some witches (Homulily and one from Portable) still have some degree of consciousness but still do witch's kiss and etc without wanting to.

Oh well, thats not enough to do anything, especially given Homulily is different than normal witches and Quit is probably akin to KG.

 

[Homu_Sweet_Homu]

Homulilly mindhax scales to Gretchen when?

 

[Kaltias]

It already does actually

 

[Homu_Sweet_Homu]

.....

What?

 

[Kaltias]

Homulilly's mind hax > Madoka's resistance > UKG's curse mindhax

 

[Homu_Sweet_Homu]

Oh that, I'm talking about Gretchen Witch Kiss, not her curse.

 

[Kaltias]

No reason to assume that it's superior to her curses as far as mind hax goes.

At least with the things that we know so far

 

[Homu_Sweet_Homu]

Is there any info regarding the new movie? I tried to find one, but the result is nil so far.

 

[Kaltias]

Nothing afaik

 

[SomebodyData]

I wonder why its taking so long? Maybe they decided to revise the script last second?

 

[Homu_Sweet_Homu]

Waiting for 1-A statement so Homulilly can shut Masadaverse up for good.

 

[Monarch_Laciel]

Need to be a seriously good 1-A statement considering their "muh higher Taikyoku"

 

[SomebodyData]

You guys are thinking too small. Tier 0 hax.

In all seriousness, it actually kinda feels good having Homulily not just mind hax gg, so I would like to keep it there. Really we just need Transdual and High-Godly Ultimate Kriemhild with Resistance Negation

 

[Kaltias]

Day 20

Still waiting for Melissa's Doppel

Also, I swear if Elisa manages to remain haxless via not being featured in MagiReco, she is officially our copy for "average magical girl powers"

 

[SomebodyData]

@Kal I'm waiting to find out what happens to the Order of the Dragons.

Melissa = Elisa + Powers (and an M and s) confirmed then

 

[Kaltias]

It's weird tbh.

She really doesn't have anything except stats (which are all pretty high)

I guess that she trade raw power for versatility that way

 

[RKGenki]

Kaltias wrote in the Homu vs Kagutsuchi thread: Resisting the law manip is more a feat for UKG really

And it's why UKG doesn't stay dead to begin with. If she wasn't resistant, she wouldn't (non)exist anymore.

Kal, with this, did you mean that Madoka can basically erase nonexistence via her law manip? Or am I taking it too far?

 

[Kaltias]

It's a bit complicated:

Madoka erased 5-B UKG who was already nonexistent according to some stuff SD posted in the revision thread.

So it means that being nonexistent doesn't help when the LoC is at work (consistent with UKG still being affected after being erased)

We do know that it can affect 2-As due to full power UKG.

So it's probably due to the resistance to law manip (otherwise UKG wouldn't be able to regen if Madoka can influence her, which she can do in the nonexistent multiverse)

Also because surviving a law that says "you can't exist" isn't a matter of regen anyway

 

[RKGenki]

That's even better than I thought, noice

 

[Kaltias]

Surviving law manipulation in general is pretty much a matter of:

- Resisting it

- Find a loophole to be unaffected (ex. "No witches" doesn't apply to AoC because it isn't a witch)

- Managing to get out of the influence somehow (If I write a law and apply it to a universe, you can be safe in a different one)

If my law is "you can't exist", regen doesn't help, because whenever you regen, you are destroyed accordingly.

 

[Holyhotsauce]

Following because lol.

 

[Kaltias]

>Checks Magia Record Wiki

>Bind negs regen

Lolribbontrap just became even stronger

 

[Kisaragi_Megumi]

@Kal

Damn,thats make it crazy XD

 

[Peter1129]

Wow is Mami the new Puella Magi Verse Lucemon

 

[Kisaragi_Megumi]

Now show the god form of Mami and done!! we doomed!!

How about Madoka and Homura Peter? 0^0

 

[Homu_Sweet_Homu]

So it neg mid regen? Noice.

 

[Peter1129]

Considering how Mami is the new spam I think Homura is more like Zeed the og spam not sure about Madoka.

 

[Kisaragi_Megumi]

Madoka = Susano'omon?

 

[Kaltias]

>Sayaka resists Bind which includes Mid negation

>Kyoko goes ahead and kills False Sayaka negging her regen

Regen negation+ boys

 

[Homu_Sweet_Homu]

Inb4 Low-Godly meguca become legit and that negation got buffed up significantly.

 

[Kisaragi_Megumi]

PMMM vs DI now is possible!!?

 

[Peter1129]

You're thinking way too small Homu watch Mami's Ribbons null Akuma Homura's Mid-Godly Regen OvO

 

[Homu_Sweet_Homu]

PMMM vs DI now is possible!!?

I mean, we already have some matches between them. Most of them won by PMMM tho.

 

[Kisaragi_Megumi]

But muh Wolfgang!!!

 

[Homu_Sweet_Homu]

You're thinking way too small Homu watch Mami's Ribbons null Akuma Homura's Mid-Godly Regen OvO

*Mami nulls Akumura regen.

 

[Kaltias]

I mean.

It would be slightly less nonsensical than Homura tagging Ult. Madoka.

Which happened

 

[Homu_Sweet_Homu]

I wonder what Tier Mami would become when the movie comes out.

You know that giant thing in the trailer.

 

[Kisaragi_Megumi]

Maybe 6-B or 5-A? (the last is too much XD)

 

[Kaltias]

Idk.

Either somewhere in tier 6, 5-B via somehow scaling from Madoka, or something like that