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Puella Magi Discussion Thread V

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Oh i know. Technically it would (hypothetically) be something like "Type 8 that goes as far as Low-Godly when it comes to repairing damage to the body". It's more to define the scale of regen negation and stuff like that.

Familiars become witches if they eat enough people yes.

Maybe? But iirc the GS is harmless unless it's used to purify a Soul Gem.
 
On the topic of the familiar-witches, I was hoping to get details on what they are like.

Are they just clones of their original witch? Or are they completely new witches? Or what? Are there any notable familiar-witches?
 
I don't think that it's a topic explored much actually.

I remember something in Sadness Prayer (I think) saying that they become new witches, but i'm not sure about that.

I don't think that there are notable familiar-witches but that's probably because we actually don't know if most witches are born from a familiar or a magical girl and we always see the second case when it happens on screen.
 
Well to be fair, it wouldn't be the first time that it happens so who knows
 
It happens other times.

In Kazumi Magica it happened, iirc in Suzune and Tart Magica too
 
Probably found something that confirms scaling all the other witches' ablilties to UKG

It's stated there that she's born from the despair of all the magical girls; since witches are born from the despair of magical girls similar to how mg are born from hope as stated by kyubey, it should scale (except that this'll make her 5-B form more broken ovo)

Going to give updates whenever I find something interesting (also if someone already translated that scan, please remove it from the "untranslated stuff" tab in the second comment)
 
Btw read the section about the clara dolls translated from the production notes on the Puella magi wiki, really cool stuff in my opinion
 
Why when i translate i don't find anything but when you do you find interesting stuff >.>

If it's promising (Which it is in this case) it's probably better to ask in the translation thread if someone can check the translation (Like, give them the extract in japanese, your translation and ask if it's correct, shouldn't take long)

If Gretchen is a composite witch of sort it solidifies scaling all the abilities that Madoka got from absorbing the magical girls (Given that she should have absorbed only those that were becoming witches)
 
In the meantime, I'm still on the same image as OCRs are a pain when they get words wrong, got to thank my limited knowledge on japanese (limited as, I can only read one of the alphabets even if I don't know the meaning), at least I can correct Hiraganas
 
I wonder, given AoC looks pretty alike to the UKG familiar concept art, how it works, and its connection to UKG, is it UKG's familiar?

If so, UKG would become nigh-unstoppable.
 
I mean, it's UKG's curses, but most of what it has is stuff that it copied, so it wouldn't scale to her I think
 
Just a reminder that UKG being composed of their despair would include their memories, though I was mostly referring to the passive drains.
 
I'm not sure, the memory copying part probably comes from Homura's bow, but the mimicry is something he has by himself, so it either is from his wraith part (unlikely as they have never been shown copying powers) or from UKG's curses (more likely)
 
She has memory related powers from her bow, I probably didn't explain myself well as I didn't mean she has that, but that AoC's memory related abilities probably come from her bow (whose abilities other than shooting arrows weren't used that much by Homura, if at all (excluding when she removed part of her memories))
 
@Hot Nope.

@RKG, eh, sounds unlikely. It should still be something Homura can do, and well, she can't.
 
@Hot not even close, even in her 2-A form with 2-A curses her mindhax is still weaker than Homulilly's

Uhm... do we include doppel's abilities in the scaling?
 
UKG's curse mind hax <<<<<< Madoka's resistance (completely useless) <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Homulilly's mindhax (subconsciously overpowered the resistance instantly while she wasn't even manifesting) <<<<<<<< Akuma Homura's mind hax (duh)

I dunno if she gets Doppel abilities, although she absorb both components (the magical girl and the witch) so it would make sense
 
Kaltias said:
UKG's curse mind hax <<<<<< Madoka's resistance (completely useless) <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Homulilly's mindhax (subconsciously overpowered the resistance instantly while she wasn't even manifesting) <<<<<<<< Akuma Homura's mind hax (duh)
I dunno if she gets Doppel abilities, although she absorb both components (the magical girl and the witch) so it would make sense
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UKG needs to get her M I N D H A X into gear.
 
It's possible that UKG's M I N D H A X is actually >>>>>> Akuma Homura, but because of Madoka's unconventional resistance it just keeps coming back.
 
SomebodyData said:
It's possible that UKG's M I N D H A X is actually >>>>>> Akuma Homura, but because of Madoka's unconventional resistance it just keeps coming back.
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If so, then UKG is the single most OP thing ever to come out of any media that has anything to do with Magical Girls.
 
So why do some witches have Immunity to Soul Manipulation due to lacking souls but other witches have Unconventional Soul Manipulation Resistance due to their souls being in their Grief Seeds?
 
I've been meaning to talk about that, but Grief Seeds are not their souls. They should all have immunity.
 
? It's the SG becoming corrupted and transforming. It should still contain the soul, no?

When was it stated that the soul is destroyed during the transformation?
 
A witch is actually the corrupted soul of the magical girl. The Grief Seed is just its "egg".

It was never stated?
 
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