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I got a fever so I'll make this quick.
I'm combining all these threads together.
Speed Nerf
Abiltity addition
I'm combining all these threads together.
Speed Nerf
Abiltity addition
Stat Adjustment Speedwise
Almost everyone is in full agreement of the nerfs that PTJ characters should have. Check these two threads for more information:
Crewhead level characters will get the persisting Supersonic Feat from this.
It’s easier to describe who won’t get these scaling.
No one scales:
Other changes: higher with firearms
All their speed would be set to Subsonic for being FTE comparable to Zack. Zack is faster, however even Fat Daniel managed to reach this speed by copying at a certain chapter.
Crewhead level characters will get the persisting Supersonic Feat from this.
It’s easier to describe who won’t get these scaling.
No one scales:
- First key of both Daniel Parks, Vin Jin, Vasco
- Anyone else below 9B scaling (Eli’s level) will NOT get this scaling
- All Viral Hit characters
- All Questism characters
Other changes: higher with firearms
- Manager Kim, Jincheol, Samdak
All their speed would be set to Subsonic for being FTE comparable to Zack. Zack is faster, however even Fat Daniel managed to reach this speed by copying at a certain chapter.
Key adjustment
- Hudson should only have one key
- Logan will have his keys reorganized
- BoS | Slim | Post-Transfer
- Sinu Han gets 2 keys, Past and Present
- Samdak gets 2 keys: Prime, Current
Stat adjustment AP
Slight nerf. Some members have become superior to previous generation members and so they will earn this nerf.
Charles Choi
Daniel Park UI - Should be at the peak
James Lee > First Gen Kings
Tom Lee >= Manager Kim == Jincheol Park == Hansoo Seong == Samdak
Vasco - Originator of feat - Third Key
2.17
1.08
Close to baseline level
Viral Hit cast, all of them (Exception Samdak)
1st key of
AP Calc - Small Building level - Vasco feat - 0.0382
Charles Choi
- Unknown, likely Small Building - Should be comparable to Tom Lee and James Lee
Likely higher
Daniel Park UI - Should be at the peak
- Gun (Excited)
- Goo (Serious)
James Lee > First Gen Kings
- James Lee scales to Gun
Tom Lee >= Manager Kim == Jincheol Park == Hansoo Seong == Samdak
- Stated to have fought Gun and Goo at the same time
- Should be at the peak too
Regular scale
Vasco - Originator of feat - Third Key
- Zack Lee Third Key
- Mandeok
- Clashed with each other
- Yuseong
- SMALL Daniel Park Third Key
- Johan Third Key + UI Mode
- Clashes with each other, Yuseong comparable to Mandeok
- Jake Kim - Mastery
- Samuel - Mastery
- Ryuhei - Firecracker Mode
- Sinu Han - 2nd Key
- Xiaolung - Weapon or Martial Arts
- Ryuhei clashed with Gun, Jake clashed with Yuseong, clashed with Xiaolung and Ryuhei, and Sinu
- Eli Jang - Path to Mastery - Third Key
- Warren Chae - Path to Mastery/ C&C Training - Third Key
- Taking on Seokdu and winning, keeping up with Sinu Han somewhat
- Jerry Kwon - Second Key Berserk
- Vin Jin, 3rd key likely
- Kazuma - Scaling off of Jerry
AP Calc - First Gen Kings Gongseob feat - 0.0153
- First Gen Kings all scale to this
- Taesoo Ma, Seokdu Wang, Gongseob Ji
- Small Building
(Crew Head level) 9B - AP Calc - Warren 3.6 + Hudson 2.17 + Eli 1.08
- Warren - C&C mode and casual (feat performed at C&C but Minsik casually shook it off)
- Downscale:
- Minsik - Overwhelmed
- Akira - Comparable. Lower than Kenta
- Vasco 2nd key
- Jerry Kwon 2nd key
- Jake Kim 2nd key casual
- Clashed with each other
- Samuel 2nd Key Heat Mode
- Clashed with Jake
- Ryuhei base mode
- Xiaolung base mode
- Both clashed with Jerry, compared to each other
- Oneshot Lineman
- Goo (Casual, higher than Gun)
- Gun first key
- Sinu Han 1st key
- Xiaolung is as strong as Gun in the past
- Goo slightly stronger back then, Sinu Han was stronger
- Kenta - Able to stand his ground against Jerry, higher with the effect
- Heat Zack
- Heat Zack kept up with Kenta and should be thus lower than Kenta
- Jacky and Channing downscale
- Vin Jin
- Comparable to Vasco
- Downscale:
2.17
- Hudson Anh - Fist chains
- Daniel 2nd key
- Links together on being able to destroy walls with feats
1.08
- Eli - 2nd tier, higher with animalistic
- Johan Seong scale
- Comparable
- Taegon Wi
- Downscales off of casual Eli
- SMALL Daniel 2nd key
- Was about to overwhelm Taegon
Close to baseline level
- Jin Jang
- All here
- Questism Suhyeon 2nd key and amp key, and Haru Song
9-B Harming a punching bag
Viral Hit cast, all of them (Exception Samdak)
- Possibly higher with Taehoon due to possibly clashing with Johan
9C - Vasco harming tier?
1st key of
- Daniel
- Vasco first key
- Vin Jin
- Zack
- Jake Kim
- Samuel
- Jerry Kwon
- Eli Jang, can reach 9B due to animalistic side (harmed Gun in the past)
- Warren Chae
- Johan
Abilities
Afterimage creation
C392 C402
Afterimages for Tom Lee
C414
Minor ability. Jake leaves afterimages. Although Jake can also dodge attacks from behind him. He’s moving so fast that his attacks are still behind him as he moved forward past an enemy.
C422
Sinu Han makes some afterimages
Analytical Prediction
Removal of all Analytical Prediction Resistances for cleanup. Move them to Intelligence instead
C427
Gun Park was able to read Ryuhei’s final attack against him
But Ryuhei gains resistance to that thanks to adapting
Attack Reflection/Redirection
422
Sinu Han manages to redirect an attack with nothing but a pinky
Aura
C423 - Zack Lee can impose an aura similar to Kenta
Damage Reduction
C300
Damage reduction for Johan. It’s a feat commonly used in Viral Hit and Lookism
C324
Vasco has damage reduction blocking with his elbows
C426
Gun is able to reduce the damage he takes by bracing himself in a Kyokushin Karate Style. This should also apply to Kenta who frequently makes use of this.
LOOKISM ANIME
Episode 4 - Vasco intercepts a punch to his gut by blocking with his knee
Enhanced Senses
C426
CQC users like Warren could sense a person’s position and utilizing CQC with a grab alone. CQC is
Fear Inducement
C84
Jake Kim scared the **** out of Jace Park. Jace was clearly trembling.
C105
Vasco made someone faint from fear by hitting close to them. He already naturally scares people with his appearance but with this, this is the first time he made someone faint.
C158
Seonong Ham can induce fear through a glare alone.
Minor Social Influencing Boost too.
C160
Seonong and Vasco’s fear both works against adult gangsters. Though Vasco’s is more potent.
C239
Eli Jang in his attack against Darius Hong traumatized him so bad that he developed a fear of being strangled to death. Not only that, Darius was so fear struck that he couldn’t talk to anyone properly and was an incoherent mess for a long time.
Information Analysis
Vasco is able to understand how strong Daniel is with a single look. This is their first time fighting.
C300
Zack was able to tell that Johan’s eyesight was disappearing. This alone wouldn’t be enough but he’s pretty analytical of Johan’s hits on him. He can also later figure out that Kenta’s fighting style is Kyokushin Karate.
C361
Zack predicted Kickboxing by analyzing Channing. Pretty minor
Some characters display the capability to immediately understand how strong someone is.
C18
Instinctive Action
Instinctive action:
"If he really did tried to hit me I would've thrown him away"
Vin Jin was surprised by how fast Zack is but would’ve instinctively thrown him
C18
"How did I do that? I moved so naturally?"
Daniel was able to turn his entire body around without intending to counter Vasco. Take note that Daniel didn’t know this move before and was just about to be hit.
C65
Zack Lee defended against Daehoon Shin’s ambush despite not being aware of the sudden attacker. This one’s pretty good since he was distracted by two other individuals.
C78
Daniel Park dodges Vasco’s mad attack out of nowhere WHILE DRUNK. Though still got hit but it is an ambush and Daniel’s on a weaker state
C145
Daniel dodges all of attacks from Seonong Ham while zoned out. This is his best one yet and being able to do that while thinking of another thing entirely is big.
C212
Gun is able to defend against Daniel’s Brazilian Kick. There’s two things notable here.
One, the Brazilian Kick that Gun uses is the exact same one here. It’s the same attack that changes directions in a split second before it hits the enemy. This previously worked on Daniel Park who is already good at analytically or instinctually defending himself.
Second, Gun was distracted focusing on Vasco and was ambushed by Daniel right after.
Yet despite those two, Gun was able to block on time to guard.
C222
Daniel Park without looking behind him grabbed a metal bat being aimed at him by a skilled person. He was busy talking to someone else while this happened
C271
Daniel is walking away from Zack. Zack attacks with an ambush. Yet Daniel manages to intercept it without even looking.
C339
Instinctive action for Tom Lee who doesn’t even have to look at a silent but furious Eli attacking. This supports his stealth detection though so it might just be that.
C342
Daniel Park’s UI mode gets Instinctive action from both Jake and Samuel
C351
Instincts for Jake and Daniel Park. As you can see Vasco ambushed Jack but he was still able to block.
Daniel on the other hand dashed to attack Eugene, but was intercepted before he could reach Eugene by Cap Guy, aka Yuseong. Both of them would have Instinctive Action there.
C361
Reacted to Jayce’s Ambush afterwards
Channing doesn’t have a profile yet tho.
C393
Instincts for Yuseong who managed to dodge an attack from behind him. Although the angle’s a bit weird it does imply he dodged the moment he realized the attack is behind him.
C399 -C400
Minor feats.
Sanghui have Instinctive actions to deal with Max and Derek having intercepted their ambush attacks.
However Eli Jang and Warren get stealth bonus for being able to sneak up on Sanghui and bypassing instinctive actions.
C407
Instinctive action for Eli and Warren. Ambushed while talking to each other without being seen. There was no enemy visible at all times and they were still conversing while talking. Pretty high level.
C417
Mandeok in his fight with Jerry ended up running in order to try and save Eugene. Mid-run he is ambushed with no warning, but was revealed to have defended. This is despite the fact that he is panicking and ambushed from a direction he didn’t expect.
C422
Despite being blind on one eye, Sinu Han is able to repeatedly sense attacks there. In this chapter, he repeatedly dodges attacks from that direction
Pain Infliction
C277
Pain Infliction for Warren. Simple feat
C405
Hudson managed to hurt Eli Jang more with his right hand than previous pressure points by Samuel and others
Pain Tolerance for Stamina
C269
Pretty minor. Vasco and Vin Jin kept fighting with broken brokes, numerous glass wounds and so on.
Pressure Point
C113
Vasco knocked out Daniel Park pretty casually with a chop to the back of his head
Stat Amp
C421
Yuseong
Empowerment + Stat Amps. Triggers by laughing or when his brother is hurt.. Minor stuff, he became more of a threat to Johan in their fight this way.
Profileless
Status Effect Inducement
C340 and C414 (C415 too but no scans yet allowed)
Jake Kim always goes for breaking the legs as seen in his fight with Xiaolung. Both the first match and the rematch.
Supernatural Willpower
422 for both
Yuseong only, profileless. To be implemented
Johan
Managed to rise and attack one more time despite his body being ‘torn apart’
C426
Kenta rose up from being oneshotted out of pure rage to take down Gun
Stealth
C211
Zack was able to sneak and push away Gun before he could do anything to Johan.
C218
Zack once again snuck up on someone. Specifically he snuck up on someone who was sneaking up on someone.
C351
Mandeok seemingly KOs Zack. But before anyone could notice, he gets behind Mandeok in an instant, surprising him.
C399-C400
Eli Jang managed to completely bypass someone who had instincts level of reacting.
C392 C402
Afterimages for Tom Lee
C414
Minor ability. Jake leaves afterimages. Although Jake can also dodge attacks from behind him. He’s moving so fast that his attacks are still behind him as he moved forward past an enemy.
C422
Sinu Han makes some afterimages
Analytical Prediction
Removal of all Analytical Prediction Resistances for cleanup. Move them to Intelligence instead
C427
Gun Park was able to read Ryuhei’s final attack against him
But Ryuhei gains resistance to that thanks to adapting
Attack Reflection/Redirection
422
Sinu Han manages to redirect an attack with nothing but a pinky
Aura
C423 - Zack Lee can impose an aura similar to Kenta
Damage Reduction
C300
Damage reduction for Johan. It’s a feat commonly used in Viral Hit and Lookism
C324
Vasco has damage reduction blocking with his elbows
C426
Gun is able to reduce the damage he takes by bracing himself in a Kyokushin Karate Style. This should also apply to Kenta who frequently makes use of this.
LOOKISM ANIME
Episode 4 - Vasco intercepts a punch to his gut by blocking with his knee
Enhanced Senses
C426
CQC users like Warren could sense a person’s position and utilizing CQC with a grab alone. CQC is
Fear Inducement
C84
Jake Kim scared the **** out of Jace Park. Jace was clearly trembling.
C105
Vasco made someone faint from fear by hitting close to them. He already naturally scares people with his appearance but with this, this is the first time he made someone faint.
C158
Seonong Ham can induce fear through a glare alone.
Minor Social Influencing Boost too.
C160
Seonong and Vasco’s fear both works against adult gangsters. Though Vasco’s is more potent.
C239
Eli Jang in his attack against Darius Hong traumatized him so bad that he developed a fear of being strangled to death. Not only that, Darius was so fear struck that he couldn’t talk to anyone properly and was an incoherent mess for a long time.
Information Analysis
Vasco is able to understand how strong Daniel is with a single look. This is their first time fighting.
C300
Zack was able to tell that Johan’s eyesight was disappearing. This alone wouldn’t be enough but he’s pretty analytical of Johan’s hits on him. He can also later figure out that Kenta’s fighting style is Kyokushin Karate.
C361
Zack predicted Kickboxing by analyzing Channing. Pretty minor
Some characters display the capability to immediately understand how strong someone is.
C18
Instinctive Action
Instinctive action:
- Vin Jin all keys
- Daniel Park Perfect Body all keys - Already set
- Zack - All keys
- Gun Park
- Jake Kim - Second key only
- Yuseong - No profile yet
- Eli Jang - 2nd key and onwards
- Warren - 2nd key and onwards
"If he really did tried to hit me I would've thrown him away"
Vin Jin was surprised by how fast Zack is but would’ve instinctively thrown him
- Low - Vin Jin
C18
"How did I do that? I moved so naturally?"
Daniel was able to turn his entire body around without intending to counter Vasco. Take note that Daniel didn’t know this move before and was just about to be hit.
- Low - Daniel Park Perfect Body
C65
Zack Lee defended against Daehoon Shin’s ambush despite not being aware of the sudden attacker. This one’s pretty good since he was distracted by two other individuals.
C78
Daniel Park dodges Vasco’s mad attack out of nowhere WHILE DRUNK. Though still got hit but it is an ambush and Daniel’s on a weaker state
C145
Daniel dodges all of attacks from Seonong Ham while zoned out. This is his best one yet and being able to do that while thinking of another thing entirely is big.
C212
Gun is able to defend against Daniel’s Brazilian Kick. There’s two things notable here.
One, the Brazilian Kick that Gun uses is the exact same one here. It’s the same attack that changes directions in a split second before it hits the enemy. This previously worked on Daniel Park who is already good at analytically or instinctually defending himself.
Second, Gun was distracted focusing on Vasco and was ambushed by Daniel right after.
Yet despite those two, Gun was able to block on time to guard.
C222
Daniel Park without looking behind him grabbed a metal bat being aimed at him by a skilled person. He was busy talking to someone else while this happened
C271
Daniel is walking away from Zack. Zack attacks with an ambush. Yet Daniel manages to intercept it without even looking.
C339
Instinctive action for Tom Lee who doesn’t even have to look at a silent but furious Eli attacking. This supports his stealth detection though so it might just be that.
C342
Daniel Park’s UI mode gets Instinctive action from both Jake and Samuel
- Defends against both at the same time
- Numerous times
C351
Instincts for Jake and Daniel Park. As you can see Vasco ambushed Jack but he was still able to block.
Daniel on the other hand dashed to attack Eugene, but was intercepted before he could reach Eugene by Cap Guy, aka Yuseong. Both of them would have Instinctive Action there.
C361
Reacted to Jayce’s Ambush afterwards
Channing doesn’t have a profile yet tho.
C393
Instincts for Yuseong who managed to dodge an attack from behind him. Although the angle’s a bit weird it does imply he dodged the moment he realized the attack is behind him.
C399 -C400
Minor feats.
Sanghui have Instinctive actions to deal with Max and Derek having intercepted their ambush attacks.
However Eli Jang and Warren get stealth bonus for being able to sneak up on Sanghui and bypassing instinctive actions.
C407
Instinctive action for Eli and Warren. Ambushed while talking to each other without being seen. There was no enemy visible at all times and they were still conversing while talking. Pretty high level.
C417
Mandeok in his fight with Jerry ended up running in order to try and save Eugene. Mid-run he is ambushed with no warning, but was revealed to have defended. This is despite the fact that he is panicking and ambushed from a direction he didn’t expect.
C422
Despite being blind on one eye, Sinu Han is able to repeatedly sense attacks there. In this chapter, he repeatedly dodges attacks from that direction
Pain Infliction
C277
Pain Infliction for Warren. Simple feat
C405
Hudson managed to hurt Eli Jang more with his right hand than previous pressure points by Samuel and others
Pain Tolerance for Stamina
C269
Pretty minor. Vasco and Vin Jin kept fighting with broken brokes, numerous glass wounds and so on.
Pressure Point
C113
Vasco knocked out Daniel Park pretty casually with a chop to the back of his head
Stat Amp
C421
Yuseong
Empowerment + Stat Amps. Triggers by laughing or when his brother is hurt.. Minor stuff, he became more of a threat to Johan in their fight this way.
Profileless
Status Effect Inducement
C340 and C414 (C415 too but no scans yet allowed)
Jake Kim always goes for breaking the legs as seen in his fight with Xiaolung. Both the first match and the rematch.
Supernatural Willpower
422 for both
Yuseong only, profileless. To be implemented
Johan
Managed to rise and attack one more time despite his body being ‘torn apart’
C426
Kenta rose up from being oneshotted out of pure rage to take down Gun
Stealth
C211
Zack was able to sneak and push away Gun before he could do anything to Johan.
C218
Zack once again snuck up on someone. Specifically he snuck up on someone who was sneaking up on someone.
C351
Mandeok seemingly KOs Zack. But before anyone could notice, he gets behind Mandeok in an instant, surprising him.
C399-C400
Eli Jang managed to completely bypass someone who had instincts level of reacting.
