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Initial things
Analytical Prediction and Resistance Scaling Chain
Though the AP and AP Res is discussed here, there are more bonuses and detailed below under certain characters to further explain.
This one's a long one
Details about Analytical Prediction. Looks like I misunderstood the ability in the past. I thought the exact measurement was that you have to be only able to completely predict everything your opponent is going to do on the level of Gensai Kurok or Kaneda from Kengan. Turns out there’s lower levels where even normal people can do it. I even tried erasing Daniel Park’s existing Analytical Prediction. How silly of me.
Anyway I’m going to start off with some basic scaling to stack up on feats. I’ll also add that there’s an abundant amount of “Last minute blocking/evading” for many characters, further adding on to the proof for AP and AP Res. So abundant that I’m going to have to make a gallery of them.
Not only that, I’ll have to include moments where characters move at the point where they leave afterimages at the last second.
Daniel Park
Daniel Park’s AP early - In the very beginning he can see attacks come in very slowly. Can even react to attacks and dodge them due to his own perspective. This was noted by Zack that despite being an amateur, Daniel could somehow still see his attacks by observing his movements.
Camp Counselor
Exists in C45. Even back then he was able to see Zack’s approach, figuring him out as a boxer and reacting accordingly. Completely adapted to Zack attempting Dirty Boxing sensed any movement he would perform. Even to the very end he was still predicting Zack, though at that point he was basically comboed and couldn’t really do anything. Not to mention Zack was using his broken arms to really overwhelm him.
This is the main core here. Jin Jang is impressive. His Analysis is amazing. It’s potent enough that Johan gives it praise. Scott Kwon previously attempted to fight Jin Jang. Scott is able to take on two boxers at the same time with ease. He’s also an Olympic level candidate. But despite that Jin Jang had absolutely no issue crushing him. No diffed.
Questim had Jin Jang appear before and gave him an A+ rank on Strength, Endurance, and Dexterity, while getting a B in Potential and S in Intelligence. Kinda strongly supported by his frequent feats of matching up to the smarter individuals and completely manipulating J High to crush each other. We’re getting off topic but his Analysis is always kept on hand.
Vasco himself was a powerhouse who can bend steel and has a very effective fighting style. This Vasco was shat on until he started pulling new moves with Muay Thai. Even at that Jin Jang was adapting at a fast rate but Vasco manages to pull through. Later on Vasco would get further stronger to the point that he can oneshot Jin, but that’s more of a statement of how much better he got.
Johan himself has his own analysis and was able to completely crush Jin Jang on his own. We’ll go more on that later.
The next fighter who tackles Jin Jang is Jace Park, but is able to keep up both because of the fact that he’s one of the few to be able to keep up with Vasco’s training (It only means he’s close to him in stats but not to the point he can bend steel) and is a very efficient strategist and detective. He had a Keikaku war with Jin Jang, essentially trying to outanalyzing each other’s strategy while also analyzing each other during their fight. The end result was Jace winning the battle but being outsmarted in their central plan.
Found something else in C401. Eli Jang’s movements are impossible to predict, yet Johan is one of the few who can keep up. Not only that but Eli can still be handled by higher tiers like Seokdu who can tag him. Tom Lee’s movements themselves are stated to be a better version of Eli Jang due to virtue of teaching him. Thus this creates a continued scaling that leads back to Manager Kim, who was able to tag and be tagged by Tom Lee and also deal with each other’s attacks.
Justin Peng and Chuck Kwak
These two are a special case. Chuck by himself can go toe to toe with Daniel and predict his attacks. This is the same Daniel with the above feat who can already see things slow and react accordingly. In C224 he predicts Daniel for a good amount of time, even discussing that “most of Daniel’s attacks are honest” considering he just lost to someone who relied a lot on ambush attacks with weapons. This isn’t an anti-feat either as in the same chapter he was said to have taken it easy on the other guy and let emotions get a hold of him. Either way Chuck getting a hit a few times is more on Daniel’s own AP against him.
Anyway, Daniel starts to adapt to him too. Daniel begins to master timing his counters and was able to essentially start overwhelming Chuck. This was noted that this technique should be learnt through experience and not just be seen once yet Daniel did exactly that. Chuck in battle also claims that Daniel himself in C225 had started adjusting the timing for one attack in a split second.
But the moment Justin joins in, they completely overwhelm Daniel with their combination. This is further aided in C225/C226 where they fight groups of many all by themselves. The fact that they’re outnumbered is important as they don’t just fight people individually. They fight as a combination and use each other against enemies. This is to the point that they predict the enemy’s attacks and move each other out of the way, or intercept or weaken the attack before it even hits fully. Their combination is enough to impress Jake, more on that later.
There’s also Daniel and Zack teaming up to fight against them but that’s more individual capability.
They also could not compare to Max and Derek who completely outskilled them. While Justin and Chuck was a 1+1 = 4 or higher… Max and Derek was point on stated to be 1+1 = 10, where they were able to win against Warren in the past, and was a crucial tool on nearly bringing down Gun. Take note that Gun was aware of how they were acting against him in order to capitalize their strengths against him and that they had to predict Gun’s actions in order to lessen his damage against theri allies.
Their AP is a much higher level due to not just having to analyze the enemy’s position but also keeping in mind their ally’s. A lot of their stuff is handled via combination and they also outsmart Daniel and force him to go further in his analytical tier.
Daniel < Chuck < Serious Daniel < Chuck and Justin < Timeskip Daniel / Max and Derek
Munseong Kim, Hobin, Jinu, Ancheol - Viral Hit + Loser Life/Life Completely Ruined/My Life as a Loser
This one is annoying because my Life as a Loser is only available for a limited amount of chapters. There are some other sites that might have it but for the most part you have to pay for the series in Webtoon. I happen to have access but can’t share too many pics there since I don’t want legal trouble.
Anyway, the story for the Loser Life is a Time Travel one. The bully Ancheol ends up traveling back in time and ends up in the body of Jinu, someone he bullied and he had to redeem himself. We will call him JinuAnchel. During the process he fights numerous people despite being incredibly weak. In particular, he fought OriginalAncheol (Aka his real self in that timeline) a total of three times. OriginalAncheol is completely wrecked by JinuAncheol each time except for their last fight. That last fight also happen to have JinuAncheol already injured and was fighting at quite the handicap. However at the very end there, OriginalAncheol got better and better at fighting to the point that he could see JinuAncheol’s attacks before they arrived. Such as predicting a knee kick at a slight movement and reacting to it.
He also fought Munseong who happened to fight Hobin Yu.
Hobin Yu’s entire thing is literally prepping up in fights against enemies who outstat him. In the past Hobin is no better than early Daniel, but ever since Hobin got buff he got to the point that he can outright overwhelm an ex-MMA fighter named Daniel Smith C124 (Actual Fight is in C127). In fact almost every enemy that Hobin fought pretty much adapted to his Analytical Prediction (The shining example of this is Boxer Wangguk) and Hobin having to out AP them with a trick ability or a surprise use of something he used before. Sometimes they even use AP against Hobin back in retaliation
C108 is when Hobin and Munseong fought.
Samdak will get high scaling too due to being the one to teach Hobin everything.
General Last Moment Blocks/Evade
At this point in the series, that kind of feat is performed a lot more.
A full collection will be made
Johan Seong the genius
Johan even in the beginning was already predicting others, like Eli Jang. Eli Jang’s dirty fighting which relies a lot on surprise attacks was completely ineffective against Johan, and he only managed to take him down in the past via an ambush. Things are different now.
Johan has since only furthered his Analytical Prediction. This is to the point that he can completely mimic fighting styles and techniques the moment he saw it once. Even when it’s being used on him for the first time. That’s more details on Power Mimicry.
Take Note they had a rematch, and at that point both of them were very toe to toe. The edge was on Eli Jang but he eventually lost.
I put Johan at a much higher level because he completely overshadowed any of the previous ones. At this point he’s pretty much god tier so it makes sense.
As of recently, in C418, Johan can do two things.
Jake Kim, Jerry Kwon, Xiaolung - Jerry's AP and Jake's precog
There’s a bit of synergy here. Jerry Kwon in his fight with Xiaolung lost and was completely predicted. There’s a weird scaling issue where he doesn’t go fully all out in previous chapters if Jake is around, but here Jerry predicted he was going to get sliced if he proceeded towards Xiaolung. However there’s also a possibility that it was a phantom image. So I’m placing Jerry here as a maybe since it was a full on vision rather than just analytical prediction too.
Jake on the other hand had full on visions and predicted lethal attacks aimed at him. Xiaolung early on attempted to use the same attack that he used on Jerry, the whole “it feels like you got cut thing” or “get detected by prediction”. Either way, non-serious Jake trivialized non-serious Xiaolung not even fazed by the attack. The moment Xiaolung got serious, Jake predicted an attack that would’ve killed him as a vision, before dodging. He did get tagged by a weapon attack that (A) is an attack made with hair adding to the unpredictability, and (B) he did just barely dodge an attack that he just predicted and (C) rather than end up blind from the attack he managed to close his eye in time. Either way Jake was able to completely crush Xiaolung when he started to take him seriously. Workers Affiliate Executive and anyone who can scale to them have this feat.
Another feat is when he fought Sina Han. He is a practitioner of invisible attacks. Something that only three geniuses are able to use in the entirety of the franchise. The other one being unknown in tier, while the other is a god tier. Either way this capitalizes on attacks so fast while being aimed at blind spots. Something Sina Han developed after numerous and numerous fights in his gladiator-esque place. But in the end Jake managed to start predicting the attacks. This is something only Gapryong Kim, his father, can do. No one else can reach this level of attacks. So this adds on to the fact that his AP/precog bypasses those kind of attacks completely.
However, Daniel Park completely trashed him in UI mode. This is even when he was working with Samuel. Understandable. UI Daniel is frankly bullyshit. The only other person who was able to overwhelm Jake is the combination of Cap Guy and Xiaolung, but it was a 2v1 and they were all taking each other semi-seriously.
Anyway I’m going to start off with some basic scaling to stack up on feats. I’ll also add that there’s an abundant amount of “Last minute blocking/evading” for many characters, further adding on to the proof for AP and AP Res. So abundant that I’m going to have to make a gallery of them.
Not only that, I’ll have to include moments where characters move at the point where they leave afterimages at the last second.
First level
Daniel Park
Daniel Park’s AP early - In the very beginning he can see attacks come in very slowly. Can even react to attacks and dodge them due to his own perspective. This was noted by Zack that despite being an amateur, Daniel could somehow still see his attacks by observing his movements.
Camp Counselor
Exists in C45. Even back then he was able to see Zack’s approach, figuring him out as a boxer and reacting accordingly. Completely adapted to Zack attempting Dirty Boxing sensed any movement he would perform. Even to the very end he was still predicting Zack, though at that point he was basically comboed and couldn’t really do anything. Not to mention Zack was using his broken arms to really overwhelm him.
Second level
Jin JangThis is the main core here. Jin Jang is impressive. His Analysis is amazing. It’s potent enough that Johan gives it praise. Scott Kwon previously attempted to fight Jin Jang. Scott is able to take on two boxers at the same time with ease. He’s also an Olympic level candidate. But despite that Jin Jang had absolutely no issue crushing him. No diffed.
Questim had Jin Jang appear before and gave him an A+ rank on Strength, Endurance, and Dexterity, while getting a B in Potential and S in Intelligence. Kinda strongly supported by his frequent feats of matching up to the smarter individuals and completely manipulating J High to crush each other. We’re getting off topic but his Analysis is always kept on hand.
Vasco himself was a powerhouse who can bend steel and has a very effective fighting style. This Vasco was shat on until he started pulling new moves with Muay Thai. Even at that Jin Jang was adapting at a fast rate but Vasco manages to pull through. Later on Vasco would get further stronger to the point that he can oneshot Jin, but that’s more of a statement of how much better he got.
Johan himself has his own analysis and was able to completely crush Jin Jang on his own. We’ll go more on that later.
The next fighter who tackles Jin Jang is Jace Park, but is able to keep up both because of the fact that he’s one of the few to be able to keep up with Vasco’s training (It only means he’s close to him in stats but not to the point he can bend steel) and is a very efficient strategist and detective. He had a Keikaku war with Jin Jang, essentially trying to outanalyzing each other’s strategy while also analyzing each other during their fight. The end result was Jace winning the battle but being outsmarted in their central plan.
Found something else in C401. Eli Jang’s movements are impossible to predict, yet Johan is one of the few who can keep up. Not only that but Eli can still be handled by higher tiers like Seokdu who can tag him. Tom Lee’s movements themselves are stated to be a better version of Eli Jang due to virtue of teaching him. Thus this creates a continued scaling that leads back to Manager Kim, who was able to tag and be tagged by Tom Lee and also deal with each other’s attacks.
Justin Peng and Chuck Kwak
These two are a special case. Chuck by himself can go toe to toe with Daniel and predict his attacks. This is the same Daniel with the above feat who can already see things slow and react accordingly. In C224 he predicts Daniel for a good amount of time, even discussing that “most of Daniel’s attacks are honest” considering he just lost to someone who relied a lot on ambush attacks with weapons. This isn’t an anti-feat either as in the same chapter he was said to have taken it easy on the other guy and let emotions get a hold of him. Either way Chuck getting a hit a few times is more on Daniel’s own AP against him.
Anyway, Daniel starts to adapt to him too. Daniel begins to master timing his counters and was able to essentially start overwhelming Chuck. This was noted that this technique should be learnt through experience and not just be seen once yet Daniel did exactly that. Chuck in battle also claims that Daniel himself in C225 had started adjusting the timing for one attack in a split second.
But the moment Justin joins in, they completely overwhelm Daniel with their combination. This is further aided in C225/C226 where they fight groups of many all by themselves. The fact that they’re outnumbered is important as they don’t just fight people individually. They fight as a combination and use each other against enemies. This is to the point that they predict the enemy’s attacks and move each other out of the way, or intercept or weaken the attack before it even hits fully. Their combination is enough to impress Jake, more on that later.
There’s also Daniel and Zack teaming up to fight against them but that’s more individual capability.
They also could not compare to Max and Derek who completely outskilled them. While Justin and Chuck was a 1+1 = 4 or higher… Max and Derek was point on stated to be 1+1 = 10, where they were able to win against Warren in the past, and was a crucial tool on nearly bringing down Gun. Take note that Gun was aware of how they were acting against him in order to capitalize their strengths against him and that they had to predict Gun’s actions in order to lessen his damage against theri allies.
Their AP is a much higher level due to not just having to analyze the enemy’s position but also keeping in mind their ally’s. A lot of their stuff is handled via combination and they also outsmart Daniel and force him to go further in his analytical tier.
Daniel < Chuck < Serious Daniel < Chuck and Justin < Timeskip Daniel / Max and Derek
Munseong Kim, Hobin, Jinu, Ancheol - Viral Hit + Loser Life/Life Completely Ruined/My Life as a Loser
This one is annoying because my Life as a Loser is only available for a limited amount of chapters. There are some other sites that might have it but for the most part you have to pay for the series in Webtoon. I happen to have access but can’t share too many pics there since I don’t want legal trouble.
Anyway, the story for the Loser Life is a Time Travel one. The bully Ancheol ends up traveling back in time and ends up in the body of Jinu, someone he bullied and he had to redeem himself. We will call him JinuAnchel. During the process he fights numerous people despite being incredibly weak. In particular, he fought OriginalAncheol (Aka his real self in that timeline) a total of three times. OriginalAncheol is completely wrecked by JinuAncheol each time except for their last fight. That last fight also happen to have JinuAncheol already injured and was fighting at quite the handicap. However at the very end there, OriginalAncheol got better and better at fighting to the point that he could see JinuAncheol’s attacks before they arrived. Such as predicting a knee kick at a slight movement and reacting to it.
He also fought Munseong who happened to fight Hobin Yu.
Hobin Yu’s entire thing is literally prepping up in fights against enemies who outstat him. In the past Hobin is no better than early Daniel, but ever since Hobin got buff he got to the point that he can outright overwhelm an ex-MMA fighter named Daniel Smith C124 (Actual Fight is in C127). In fact almost every enemy that Hobin fought pretty much adapted to his Analytical Prediction (The shining example of this is Boxer Wangguk) and Hobin having to out AP them with a trick ability or a surprise use of something he used before. Sometimes they even use AP against Hobin back in retaliation
C108 is when Hobin and Munseong fought.
Samdak will get high scaling too due to being the one to teach Hobin everything.
General Last Moment Blocks/Evade
At this point in the series, that kind of feat is performed a lot more.
A full collection will be made
Third level
Johan Seong the genius
Johan even in the beginning was already predicting others, like Eli Jang. Eli Jang’s dirty fighting which relies a lot on surprise attacks was completely ineffective against Johan, and he only managed to take him down in the past via an ambush. Things are different now.
Johan has since only furthered his Analytical Prediction. This is to the point that he can completely mimic fighting styles and techniques the moment he saw it once. Even when it’s being used on him for the first time. That’s more details on Power Mimicry.
Take Note they had a rematch, and at that point both of them were very toe to toe. The edge was on Eli Jang but he eventually lost.
I put Johan at a much higher level because he completely overshadowed any of the previous ones. At this point he’s pretty much god tier so it makes sense.
As of recently, in C418, Johan can do two things.
- One, he can completely copy C&C from Manager Kim. This is a technique that Kim spent a month to teach Warren, who at best learnt to use it over 3 feet.
- Kim who spent all his life with it, can use it over 10 feet.
- Johan, by being on the receiving end of this attack and not even looking directly at the attack, defended and copied it to the point that he can use 10 feet. He is a genius
- Two. Johan was also able to completely defend against it despite Kim’s intention to knock him out. This was to the point that Kim is impressed by how he blocked it.
Jake Kim, Jerry Kwon, Xiaolung - Jerry's AP and Jake's precog
There’s a bit of synergy here. Jerry Kwon in his fight with Xiaolung lost and was completely predicted. There’s a weird scaling issue where he doesn’t go fully all out in previous chapters if Jake is around, but here Jerry predicted he was going to get sliced if he proceeded towards Xiaolung. However there’s also a possibility that it was a phantom image. So I’m placing Jerry here as a maybe since it was a full on vision rather than just analytical prediction too.
Jake on the other hand had full on visions and predicted lethal attacks aimed at him. Xiaolung early on attempted to use the same attack that he used on Jerry, the whole “it feels like you got cut thing” or “get detected by prediction”. Either way, non-serious Jake trivialized non-serious Xiaolung not even fazed by the attack. The moment Xiaolung got serious, Jake predicted an attack that would’ve killed him as a vision, before dodging. He did get tagged by a weapon attack that (A) is an attack made with hair adding to the unpredictability, and (B) he did just barely dodge an attack that he just predicted and (C) rather than end up blind from the attack he managed to close his eye in time. Either way Jake was able to completely crush Xiaolung when he started to take him seriously. Workers Affiliate Executive and anyone who can scale to them have this feat.
Another feat is when he fought Sina Han. He is a practitioner of invisible attacks. Something that only three geniuses are able to use in the entirety of the franchise. The other one being unknown in tier, while the other is a god tier. Either way this capitalizes on attacks so fast while being aimed at blind spots. Something Sina Han developed after numerous and numerous fights in his gladiator-esque place. But in the end Jake managed to start predicting the attacks. This is something only Gapryong Kim, his father, can do. No one else can reach this level of attacks. So this adds on to the fact that his AP/precog bypasses those kind of attacks completely.
However, Daniel Park completely trashed him in UI mode. This is even when he was working with Samuel. Understandable. UI Daniel is frankly bullyshit. The only other person who was able to overwhelm Jake is the combination of Cap Guy and Xiaolung, but it was a 2v1 and they were all taking each other semi-seriously.
TLDR of AP and Res
Analytical Prediction will be added this way on this spoiler.
Tom Lee
Gets High AP + Res due to unpredictability + scaling off of fighting Gun and Goo
DG (James Lee)
Gets High AP + Res due to outscaling Eli Jang and being on the level of Gun/Goo/Tom Lee/UI Daniel
Gun Park
High AP + Res due to UI Daniel + Tom Lee scaling
Goo Park
High AP + Res due to UI Daniel + Tom Lee scaling
Daniel Park Original Body
Original gets AP + Res (Scales off of Logan Fight)
Post-Sophia-Training gets Mid AP + Res (Scales off of Logan Fight and Daniel's latest battles)
Post-Goo Training - gets Mid AP + Res. Might end up higher depending on upcoming chapters
Daniel Park Perfect Body
Original gets Mid AP + Res due to Justin and Chuck scaling
Heat gets Mid AP + Res
UI Mode gets High AP + Res due to outscaling Jake Kim
Vasco
Regular gets Mid AP + Res due to Jin Jang
First Timeskip gets Mid AP + Res
Second Timeskip gets Mid AP + Res. Might end up higher depending on upcoming chapters
Johan Seong
God Dog Leader - Gets Med AP + Res due to Eli Jang + Jin Jang Scaling
Loner - Gets Med AP + Res due to Jin Jang stomping, Goo, Gun, Eli Jang and scaling
Current - Gets high AP + Res due to Manager Kim's level.
Zack Lee
Regular - Gets Low AP + Res scaling due to Camp Counsellor and Daniel Park
Heat Mode - Gets Med AP + Res due to Jackie Lee, Johan, and Daniel Park scaling
Post-Daegu Training - Gets Med AP + Res. Possibly higher in upcoming chapters
Eli Jang
Regular - Gets Low AP + Res due to scaling off of Max and Derek and Gun Park scaling
Beast Mode - Gets Med AP + Res due to scaling off of Tom Lee (Training), Johan, Olly Wang, and the White Tigre Crew
Next Level - Gets Med AP + Res with same reasons as above
Warren Chae
Regular - Gets Low AP + Res due to Olly Wang scaling, possibly higher. His notable AP feats comes after training with Manager Kim.
C&C - Gets Med AP + Res due to Olly Wang, Manager Kim training and fight
Jake Kim
Pre-Timeskip - Gets Med AP + Res due to Johan + Olly Wang fight scaling
Post-Timeskip - Gets Med AP + Res for reasons above and Jerry Kwon and Xiaolung events
Heat Mode - Gets Med AP + Res for same reason as above. Possibly higher due to Sina Han
Samuel SEO
Regular - Gets Low AP + Res. Very little feats
Heat Mode - Gets Med AP + Res. Possibly higher. This is due to Jake Kim, Olly Wang, Johan, Heat Mode Daniel Park, and Eli Jang scaling. Seokdu's fights also adds to this.
OTHERS
Suhyeon Kim
To be discussed.
Daddies: Manager Kim, Samdak, Hansoo Seong, and Jincheol Park
All get the highest level of AP + Res scaling.
Taehoon Park
Gets Med AP + AP Res scaling due to scaling off of Seongjun Baek and Hobin.
Hobin Yu
Gets Med AP + AP res scaling due to the nature of his fights. More discussed below
Gets High AP + Res due to unpredictability + scaling off of fighting Gun and Goo
DG (James Lee)
Gets High AP + Res due to outscaling Eli Jang and being on the level of Gun/Goo/Tom Lee/UI Daniel
Gun Park
High AP + Res due to UI Daniel + Tom Lee scaling
Goo Park
High AP + Res due to UI Daniel + Tom Lee scaling
Daniel Park Original Body
Original gets AP + Res (Scales off of Logan Fight)
Post-Sophia-Training gets Mid AP + Res (Scales off of Logan Fight and Daniel's latest battles)
Post-Goo Training - gets Mid AP + Res. Might end up higher depending on upcoming chapters
Daniel Park Perfect Body
Original gets Mid AP + Res due to Justin and Chuck scaling
Heat gets Mid AP + Res
UI Mode gets High AP + Res due to outscaling Jake Kim
Vasco
Regular gets Mid AP + Res due to Jin Jang
First Timeskip gets Mid AP + Res
Second Timeskip gets Mid AP + Res. Might end up higher depending on upcoming chapters
Johan Seong
God Dog Leader - Gets Med AP + Res due to Eli Jang + Jin Jang Scaling
Loner - Gets Med AP + Res due to Jin Jang stomping, Goo, Gun, Eli Jang and scaling
Current - Gets high AP + Res due to Manager Kim's level.
Zack Lee
Regular - Gets Low AP + Res scaling due to Camp Counsellor and Daniel Park
Heat Mode - Gets Med AP + Res due to Jackie Lee, Johan, and Daniel Park scaling
Post-Daegu Training - Gets Med AP + Res. Possibly higher in upcoming chapters
Eli Jang
Regular - Gets Low AP + Res due to scaling off of Max and Derek and Gun Park scaling
Beast Mode - Gets Med AP + Res due to scaling off of Tom Lee (Training), Johan, Olly Wang, and the White Tigre Crew
Next Level - Gets Med AP + Res with same reasons as above
Warren Chae
Regular - Gets Low AP + Res due to Olly Wang scaling, possibly higher. His notable AP feats comes after training with Manager Kim.
C&C - Gets Med AP + Res due to Olly Wang, Manager Kim training and fight
Jake Kim
Pre-Timeskip - Gets Med AP + Res due to Johan + Olly Wang fight scaling
Post-Timeskip - Gets Med AP + Res for reasons above and Jerry Kwon and Xiaolung events
Heat Mode - Gets Med AP + Res for same reason as above. Possibly higher due to Sina Han
Samuel SEO
Regular - Gets Low AP + Res. Very little feats
Heat Mode - Gets Med AP + Res. Possibly higher. This is due to Jake Kim, Olly Wang, Johan, Heat Mode Daniel Park, and Eli Jang scaling. Seokdu's fights also adds to this.
OTHERS
Suhyeon Kim
To be discussed.
Daddies: Manager Kim, Samdak, Hansoo Seong, and Jincheol Park
All get the highest level of AP + Res scaling.
Taehoon Park
Gets Med AP + AP Res scaling due to scaling off of Seongjun Baek and Hobin.
Hobin Yu
Gets Med AP + AP res scaling due to the nature of his fights. More discussed below
Ability Buffs
UI / Ultra Instinct Users
All UI mode users will gain- Instinctive Action - Instincts are concentrated entirely on fights. Can detect if someone gets serious and dangerous
- Enhanced Senses - Maximize your Dynamic Visual Acuity and Momentary Thought process - Quote
These will include Daniel Park and Gun Park.
Daniel Park
Analytical Prediction and Resistance
Revisions will be made. His early key will gain the property of the lowest level scaling of AP here. His Perfect Body’s lowest key will get the second scaling of AP there. His UI mode however earns the highest level of scaling AP here.
His perfect body is able to resist second tier AP from what we have. His UI mode however has the highest level of resistance to them, from being able to evade Jake’s style which can view Invisible Attacks.
AP+AP Res
- C224 Chuck, who can predict his attacks, is completely overwhelmed the moment Daniel took him seriously.
- C350 Chuck and Justin who previously overwhelmed Daniel even when he’s serious and stronger than them individually, completely overwhelmed them and took them out within a moment on their rematch
- C274, Jerry Kwon is impressed and has been analyzing him throughout the fight. Not to a high extent like the others but enough to understand his fighting style
- Despite fighting Jake Kim with his amazing senses, was completely untouchable by him
- Could not even be predicted
- Even by the likes of Jerry Kwon and Johan
Instinctive Action
Even in a non hostile situation, while Daniel is completely distracted thinking of another topic, Daniel was able to evade at the last second from multiple attacks. All while barely moving his body. This will be applied to his lowest key.
- Can dodge at the last second without even trying C145
Reactive Evolution
This is a big one. Whenever Daniel’s fighting a strong opponent, he levels up. But the enemy has to be close to his level. There are too many cases in the past where the opponent he fights is weaker than him. In one instance, Zack Lee was the one who overwhelmed him in the past. Hudson arguably too. For Hudson he developed the capability to fight with a weapon, something he never used before, to combat Hudson. In his UI mode fight with Jerry, he also developed the ability to completely reflect the damage he received back to the enemy. This is similarly done by Zack Lee later on too.
To explain, Scene 1:
- Zack post training dominated Daniel. (C269)
- However Daniel started overwhelming Zack again the more the battle continued
- Zack then got his Empowerment and managed to start overwhelming Daniel. A complete domination
- But then Daniel started adapting again. The battle ended with Zack thinking that Daniel was just going easy on him again.
- Later on despite it being a surprise attack, UI Daniel completely oneshots Zack
More Justifications for future battles. I’m not gonna list down most of the fights that end up with Daniel oneshotting or blitzing the enemy.
- UI mode had him overwhelm Jerry. Later on Jerry would confirm that he was about to get his ass kicked if he continued on. It was only UI ending by itself that Jerry didn't lose.
- Regular Daniel got absolutely whooped by Gun. The moment UI mode activated, he actually broke Gun’s arm before his UI mode ended.
- His fight with Samuel Seo ended up giving him Heat Mode. He went from being oneshotted, to waking up and going too to toe with Samuel.
- Daniel Park in his fight with Hudson was able to overwhelm him, and even use his own Heat Mode again as a reaction to this. Not to mention started adapting such as using a weapon he never learnt before and emphasizing on kick focused combat
- Taesoo Ma’s match was interrupted but it was implied he was adapting
- UI Daniel completely wiped out everyone when he fought (Jake, Johan, and Samuel. Even Goo)
- UI Daniel completely demolished Johan in particular, who can only do nothing but copy and learn his new techniques. Even then he was completely demolished. The gap wasn't even closing between them despite arguably Johan having a similar Power Mimicry as him.
- UI Daniel fought against Goo with a weapon, a god tier. He once again broke Goo’s arm but ended up falling unconscious
- Daniel one sidedly beat up Justin and Chuck, who in the past completely overwhelmed him until he teamed up with Zack. Here despite their Analytical Prediction scaling, they got twoshotted when they were the ones that ambushed.
- Cap Guy’s fight was strange. However Cap Guy is implied to be a god tier who specialized more on restraining and Daniel immediately lost any intention to fight when Eugene bribed him.
- Jake Kim’s fight he purposely lost
So far each time his matches have him either completely demolish the opponent, fall unconscious out of UI Mode, or fight god tiers before having the match be interrupted.
Other bonuses:
In C227, Daniel sped up just by once again copying what Zack can do when he overwhelmed an enemy with speed.
There’s also other effects. This would be just Accelerated Development if not for the existence of these ones:
In C117 to C120, Daniel was knocked out in both bodies by a taser from a stalker. However, the more he was hit by the taser, the more he resisted the effect. This is to the point that when the stalker attempted to murder Zoe, when he blocked her attack he was still conscious and capable.
Further proof, fighters stat amp all the time mid-battle that happens all the time in the series and are applicable to other characters. But the main argument focuses on the fact that Zack fight on the top.
This buff only applies to Perfect Body.
- Numerous cases proved before
- Applies to non-physical attacks. Was tasered before but became more and more resistant to it
- C117to C120 in Stalker arc
- C227 Another case where he got faster
Electric Resistance
Got tasered and resisted it. See above on the Stalker Arc.
Pressure Points
Daniel can go for the Liver to deal devastating damage. Daniel can also go for the joints like in C342
Durability Negation
Daniel uses Systema. Attacks from this martial arts can completely ignore the defenses of Logan Lee. Someone who was notable for being soft on the outside yet thick on the inside. This type of body for Logan meant that he could take a beating. He literally sat on a bench while being hit by an entire gang with metal weapons, and he wasn't even fazed. Yet both Daniel and Jay are able to harm him through their attacks.
Pain Infliction
Systema focuses entirely on making it hurt for the enemy. C270-C271
Damage Reduction
Pretty simple. He can reduce the damage he takes via taking hits onto the forehead. This was performed against Jerry Kwon, whose serious attack did nothing at all. C342 | Full Link
Weapons Mastery
Started using brass knuckles and a whip and was able to use them full on against strong enemies immediately. The whip part is mostly the bigger one since Brass Knuckles are simple enough
Limited Power Mimicry
As said before Daniel can copy techniques the moment he sees them. Genius boxers and other specialist fighters are frequently stunned at how he mimics the attacks perfectly. Gun claims that his level of copying is to the point that only 2 other geniuses have such an ability.
- Can copy Analytical Prediction too possibly C224
Adding the feat in C342
Supernatural Willpower
Can fight from the brink of exhaustion like a second wind
Eli Jang
AP and AP Res
Was pretty much handtrained off of Gun. Not only that has reached a level higher than Max and Derek, whom are strong practitioners of analyzing and comboing. There’s a follow up circular scaling with Olly Wang, but the biggest one is Johan.
Yeoncheol of the White Tiger Job Centre, a skilled force who should be superior to Max and Derek, could not predict Eli Jang at all.
Notably his partner Han Xanghee completely obliterated Max and Derek. This is done to a much greater degree than Jacky Lee, who was notable for being flexible and evasive, and succeeded against their AP style.
Far from his strongest mode, Eli Jang was able to overwhelm Johan at his angriest.
C247
- Scales off of overwhelming Gun for a bit
- Already scales off of Johan and Max and Derek, both practicioners of analyzing enemies
- Further scales off of Olly Wang who was trained by Gun
Martial Arts, Aikido, and Jiu-Jitsu
Was trained by both Gun and Tom Lee, with the former claiming he’s his most remarkable creation yet prior to Daniel Park. Fights like an animal that makes use of every advantage and weakpoint possible with no remorse)
Status Ailment Infliction (Blindness)
Can attempt to blind someone by gouging their eyes
Reactive Evolution and/or Statistical Amplification
Able to repeatedly grow in battle. His fight with the 1st gen fighter, Suwon’s King, showed this as him overcoming the wall. Seokdu Wang described it as seeing them grow while fighting him. Notably Seokdu had this too but was overwhelmed by both.
Rage Power, Empowerment
Grows in strength with emotions. Especially from Rage and thinking about his family.
Accelerated Development
Learnt more than Johan in 3 months in 1 month. Might be suitable replacement for Reactive Evolution as in the middle of the fight with Seokdu, was rapidly growing in combat.
Damage Reduction
Can negate the damage of an attack by hugging a person as proven in his fight with Seokdu Wong. He likely has alternative means such as using his feet to intercept the attack which he also performed.
High Pain Tolerance
Has an immensely high pain threshold, continuing to fight despite having his crotch kicked
Pressure Points
More than willing to attack joints, gouge the eyes, and go for the throat or ears.
Pain Infliction
Through going for vital points such as ears, eyes, and throat. Has repeatedly punched someone in the dick before. I am not kidding.
Stealth Mastery
Managed to completely sneak attack on an enemy that was incredibly prepared for ambush attacks. (Part of Hunt for Hostel). Snuck up on Johan before as an attack twice.
Goo Park
AP/Res
Able to defeat Johan with very minimal difficulty. One frequent tactic of his is removing his glasses before he is hit on the face despite it being ambushes from attackers like Johan, Daniel, and Sina. All those three are incredibly fast and accurate. He was also able to contend with UI Daniel for a brief time.
Fear Inducement
Through a glare alone he managed to silence Logan Lee in C345. Also silences others with glares
Fear Resistance
Shook off UI Daniel's fear inducing aura
Pain Infliction
HIs fighting style has a heavy emphasis on inflicting as much pain as possible. As displayed with Sinu Han in C308
Pain Resistance
Very resistant to pain to the point of casually talking while receiving attacks that injure him
Gun Park
AP/Res
Superior to Johan having completely demolished him before. Jin Jang was completely demolished by Johan in the past. C211
He’s able to keep up with UI Daniel Park for awhile. Though he had his arm break.
Fought off both Max, Derek, Warren, and Eli Jang in C243. The former two being very competent at predicting his attacks and intercepting them. However the moment he truly got mad and serious, completely overwhelmed them.
Fear Resistance
C286, Gun is inflicted with Fear by UI Daniel. But he manages to shake it off.
(Viral Hit)Hobin Yu + Samdak
AP/ResHis entire schtick is predicting the enemies and reacting accordingly. Even early in the series he was outstatted but managed to win thanks to his adaptability and Analytical Prediction, using the perfect moves at the right time. He’s gotten to the point now in the series that people that are MMA fighters get taken down by him. C127. His AP Res counters enemies who can AP him too.
- Any enemy he fought scales off of him that wasn’t absolutely blasted
- Like say the early bully who got is shit wrecked
There is also Munseong and Ancheol. In “Life completely ruined” both have displayed the capability to analyze the opponent. Ancheol was able to detect a flying knee kick before the attack was tossed at him during his fight with Jinchol-Ancheol. Munseong also predicted Ancheol’s attacks until he started displaying moves he wouldn’t use.
Bonus fluff - Soccer player - Fights with a steel chain ball linked to his leg.
C129 in Viral Hit shows him and Jinho Lee predicting each other’s attacks for a good while, unable to hit the other.
Pain Tolerance
- Taken so many beatings
- C44 - Literally rose up from unfeeling to back to life the moment he got a 500,000 won donation
- 349 USD
Supernatural Willpower
Can fight from the brink of exhaustion like a second wind. See C44
Rage Power, Empowerment
In his fight with Jinho Lee, powered up through sheer rage
Damage Reduction
One of his literal abilities
Durability Negation and Pressure Points
Oblique Kick, Calf Kick, Liver Kick, Nose strike, gouge the eyes, eardrum clap, attack against toes. Liver Kick in particular was described to be hurts in C129
The former in particular is very brutal
Grappling in particular is very useful
Status Ailment Inducement and Pain Infliction
Can make enemies disoriented with his eardrum clap, ruining their sense of balance. Has numerous cheap attacks that aim to maximize pain dealt
Fear inducement
Can scare people off now even prior to true training. (C102)
Jinho Lee
C129 is capable of dodging anything that Hobin displayed here before, showing a remarkable AP/Ap Res. Afterimage effect is also used. Both were predicting each other one after the other.Jake Kim
AP/AP Res/Precognition
Through numerous scaling from being a better fighter than Jerry Kwon, via overwhelming Xiaolung via C336-C337. To defeating Justin and Chuck whom he fought by himself. Not to mention fighting Sina Han who used the concept of Invisible ATtacks.
- C336 saw right through his phantom attack
- C337 Completely predicted Xiaolung’s actions even when his back was turned
- Was able to see Invisible Attacks which previously got through his senses
Supernatural Willpower
Revived himself from the brink of defeat to fight Sinu Han
C338
Fear Inducement
Scared a bunch of prisoners. Scared Jin Jang with a glare alone
C231
Fear Resistance
Overcame the fear inducing effect of UI Daniel
James Lee
AP and AP Res
Same as others. Should be superior or at least on the level of Daniel Park’s UI Mode and Gun.
He was able to keep up with Eli after he was trained by Tom Lee. This is the same Eli who has become unpredictable.
C362
Outpaced Eli Jang
Damage Reduction
Minimizes damage taken in his fight with Taesoo by letting himself be moved while blocking. C367
Johan Seong
AP and AP Res
Particularly evident when he whooped Jin Jang at C210, and again at C211. Jin Jang is already known to be capable of memorizing someone’s attack patterns after seeing them fight. Yet the first time, Jin is completely defeated despite having a team backing him up. This happens again in C210 despite Jin Jang having an even bigger group to fight alongside him. This was to the point that Jin Jang was completely afraid of him despite sucker punching him with a weapon and having an entire gang army with him.
Even back in C242 early on, his fight with Eli shows him already predicting and copying his enemy.
Status Ailment Infliction and Pain Infliction
By blinding someone or scratching their throat. Latter should be learnt from Eli, former was also learnt from Eli and used before
Reactive Evolution, Statistic Amplification, Accelerated Development
Grows in battle the more he fights. Similar to Daniel where he would copy techniques and strength of some attacks. Every fight he participates him strengthens him further.
C242
- Particularly evident. Whooped Jin Jang at C210
- Twice C211
- C242 Even back then analyzes and predicts the enemy
Fear Inducement
Has frightened an entire gang and scared them off of attacking J-High while they are weakened. Scared off Justin and Chuck from fighting him through his presence alone during his brief working partnership with Jace.
Fear Resistance
Overcame the fear inducing aura of UI Daniel
Samuel Seo
High Pain Tolerance
Has an immensely high pain threshold, continuing to fight despite having his crotch kicked
Pain Infliction
A variety of his attacks is performed to inflict as much pain as possible. Crotch kicks and crotch grabs in particular or using weapons
Weapon Mastery
Competent with using makeshift weapons such as car doors but especially good with brass knuckles
Reactive Evolution and/or Statistical Amplification
Able to repeatedly grow in battle. His fight with the 1st gen showed this as him overcoming the wall. Seokdu Wang described it as seeing them grow while fighting him
Heat Mode is technically this. If he has the same Heat Mode as Daniel then he would have this RE too.
Pressure Points
Crotch kicks are deadly yo. More than willing to attack joints.
Damage Reduction
In his fight with Seokdu, can reduce the damage of his full rotation headbutt by intercepting the attack before it can build up enough force.
Rage Power, Empowerment
Grows in strength with emotions
Supernatural Willpower
Through focus and attrition was able to keep himself going despite the sheer damage he took
Fear Resistance
Overcame the fear inducing nature of UI Daniel
(Questism) Suhyeon Kim
One thing to note is that Suhyeon Kim should not have won against Hanju.
Add:
Duplication, Power Mimicry
Can Summon Cloud copy and copy stats of a person. Suhyeon can then copy paste that person.
Paralysis Inducement
Cloud Copy is invisible as it stuns someone to copy their stats. This lasts for 5 seconds and the other person is stunned
Accelerated Development
Levels up skills and fighting style each time using them
Emotion Manipulation
Can induce the feeling of embarrassment or grossness to whoever he uses Peek At you
Statistics Manipulation
Can swap stats with others. Can improve his own stats and so
Pressure Points
Can strike at the chin. Attacks that would not knock out enemies by hitting them normally knocks them out instead. Can also go for the ears instead.
Power Bestowal
Can permanently increase the stats of an ally, and also permanently give them a new fighting style
Modify:
Reactive Evolution - Can consistently level up and improve stats to adapt against the enemy. Quests give adapted quests to strengthen Suhyeon
Healing - Can now do this twice
Probability Manipulation - Has slightly increased luck
Statistical Amplification - Has numerous abilities to increase stats continuously
Pain Tolerance - Master Please lessens effect of pain if not turns it to pleasure.
Taehoon
AP + AP Res
Scales off of Hobin
Tom Lee
AP + Res
The guy frequently observes the enemy. Can choose to dodge and even blitz enemies as seen in his fight with Cap Guy. As expected of someone who’s known as the Fighting Genius. Not only that, after (Kidnapping) forcefully babysitting Eli Jang’s child, he completely beat him down without even looking at him the first time.
To add on to that, in C298 fought Warren Chae and Daniel displaying this. Warren’s prediction of an attack fails despite his years of battle experience.
In C393, afterimages are left behind as he fought Cap Guy. This is a minor feat that can be blamed to speed, but afterimages are very rarely used in Lookism.
In C402, Tom Lee’s face blurs out from an afterimage from Eli Jang’s attack. This is to the point that Eli Jang’s attacks are unpredictable as described by Yeoncheol. Yeoncheol also stated Eli Jang was miles behind Tom Lee, the one who taught Eli Jang everything he knew and taught him how to be unpredictable. So for Tom Lee to be more unpredictable is perfectly fine.
Vasco
AP and AP Res
Overwhelmed Jin Jang’s prediction, who was once able to completely overwhelm him
Even for a bit matched Johan when he was limiting himself to Taekwando
Was able to keep up with Jake Kim too
Accelerated Development and Statistical Amplification
Heat Mode/Bleeding Eyes had him absolutely demolish a person
Fear Inducement
Scared a gangster off with a glare alone
Vin Jin
AP and AP Res
Scales off of Vasco well too. Adapts to the enemy using techniques, such as Ivan. Completely predicted all of his attacks too (Both Ivan and Vasco) and was only tagged by Vasco because of the sudden attack. Even at that point he was able to tilt his head to half the damage, though Vasco did the same lessening the damage. Point is both were able to tag each other despite predictions.
C204
- Pretty much made a joke out of Ivan who can adapt to his flips
- Matched Vasco
- C270 Can predict and match Vasco’s pace
Enhanced Senses
Can see well in the dark
Fourth Wall Awareness
Broke the fourth wall
C231
Accelerated Development and Statistical Amplification
Completely different the moment he took off his shades. Trained himself to be incredibly strong, and went from being overwhelmed by Kazuma to absolutely breaking him
Pressure Points
Can break the bones and grab them without piercing the body
Willing to grab someone by the crotch
Pain Infliction
More than willing to break bones and also harm someone by crushing their joints
Supernatural Willpower
Can fight from the brink of exhaustion like a second wind
Warren Chae
Martial Arts (Jeet Kune Do)
Developed this fighting style through brawling for years.
AP and AP Res
Scaleless off of previous fights with others like Manager Kim later on. His attacks are also shown to predict the enemy.
C298 Fights with Tom Lee and displays AP
Attack Redirection
In C293, was able to keep up with Manager Kim and redirect each other's attacks. Was taught by Manager Kim to do this. Shown in his fight with Minsik and Seokdu in 408
Accelerated Development
Got stronger the more he fights as seen in his fight with Minsik.
Fear Resistance
Standard. Can fight through their feet despite this
Status Ailment Inducement
In his fight with Manager Kim in C293, disoriented his sense of balance by striking his temple
Zack Lee
AP and AP Res
Gains this from fighting Justin and Chuck at C227 and his constant clashes with Daniel. Fought Johan prior to the Daniel vs everyone fight and was able to somewhat keep up.
Fear Inducement
He scared thugs before with his glare alone
Empowerment
Can do this by sheer rage and negative thinking. Basic stuff.
Damage reduction
Via Shoulder Roll causing attacks to miss
Attack Reflection
He was able to use all the force of an attack and send it back
Instinctive Action
Part of Heat Mode
Accelerated Development, and Reactive Evolution. Statistical Amplification
Zack in Heat Mode starts to use techniques he never used before, such as redirecting an attack back to an attacker. Daniel himself notes that It's a technique that Daniel used before but Zack never saw him use it. This is enough to impress Mandeok and almost make him go at him in a serious manner. (Not Capoeira though)
Not only that, Zack entering Heat Mode usually spells a massive stat amp for him.
- Jackie Lee = Went from being wiped out in a few hits and dominated, to wiping out Jackie very quickly
- Magami Kenta = Zack went from being overwhelmed and even oneshotted, to going toe to toe with him. He only lost when Magami himself gained another stat amp
Started using moves he never used before to start countering the enemy
C361 - Channing overwhelmed him predicting him completely
C363 - Jackie Lee is completely not hit at all during attacks. Yet overwhelmed again
Supernatural Willpower
Can fight from the brink of exhaustion like a second wind
Daddies of PTJVerse Manager Kim, Jincheol, and Hansoong
AP and AP Res
Manager Kim and Samdak both have feats of predicting one another. Scaling from both Johan, Hobin, and Munseong who connects to Ancheol. Lastly Tom Lee and Manager Kim being able to go toe to toe with each other is a solid way to introduce this. Jincheol and Hansoong also scales off of this.
In particular, in Manager Kim C32 Jincheol purposely left weak spots for Manager Kim but he never went after them. This further shows a resistance to Analytical Prediction.
In C124 of Viral Hit, Samdak had numerous times where he dodged or redirected a gun from shooting at him. In fact even leaving an afterimage. A rare occurrence in the verse. This is also performed by an expert (Nameless)
Shin Seong Ho in C51 of Manager Kim can casually predict the attacks of the mad butcher, who’s skilled with a butcher knife. Manager Kim still whooped Shin Seong Ho in their first encounter. Take note that the butcher was able to overwhelm Shin Seong despite his AP.
Fear Inducement
Each one of these should be able to scare an enemy off.
Samdak - C114 - Made a very skilled secret agent (Nameless) feel like he was going to dodge a bullet. Scared the shit out of him.
All
Stealth mastery
Applicable to all four.
Samdak Snuck over the second floor in C149 of Viral Hit.
C27 to C28 of Manager Kim performed by everyone but Samdak.
Memorization, Environmental Usage (Proof for Analytical Prediction)
C32 Kim Memorized everything he needed for the fight. This is also noted by Jincheol that he did this too. Likely applicable to Samdak since he's on the same level as Jincheol.
Enhanced Senses
Senses wiretraps to all three except Samdak.
Swimming
Applicable to all four.
Weapons
Applicable to Kim, Samdak, and Jincheol
Good with guns and wires and knife
Marksmanship
Every soldier in Manager Kim Series should be capable. This would apply to Kim, Samdak, and Jincheol.
Manager Kim
Instinctive Action
C49 Kim dodges at the last second repeatedly while talking and doing other things
C50 Kim crushes rocks. Lifting?
C52 Can detect what Sincheol was planning WITHOUT EVEN LOOKING AT HIM
Mind reading esque essentially. Can read a person’s intent without even focusing.
Poison Resistance
C31 Kim has been fed poison all his life thanks to cruel torture at North Korea.
Equipment
Guns
Wires
Knife
Kevlar Jacket
CALC C35 Speed Feat
Kim pushes someone out of a bullet path
Kevlar Jacket
Attack Redirection
Used his wires to make Tom Lee's attacks redirect to hit something else.
Also did this with Warren Chae in C293, redirecting each other's attacks. Later on taught him how to redirect attacks.
Hansoo Seong
Pain Infliction
C117 - Yeonwu Ji/Yeonu is capable of reducing damage taken via Kyokushin Karate and ignoring pain. Yet Hansoo’s attacks completely bypassed this.
Equipment
Eavesdropping via bugs/wiretap C33
Jincheol
WeaponsGood with guns and knife, improvised weapons
Equipment
Eavesdropping via bugs/wiretap
Guns
Knife
Grenades
Flashbangs
Kevlar Jacket
Enhanced Senses
Can sense a gun pointed at him from under the table by Manager Kim C33
Can detect someone hiding in his house
Marksmanship
Very good shot with guns
Ventriloquism
Can fake his voice like a girl
Old Version: (Also has the new AP Scaling)
This is going to be one of many. Anyway the keys on the Profiles could be adjusted to account for certain things. Daniel Park gets too much love while everyone else that's not god tier needs a buff.
Heat Mode is primarily added because it’s a major change of fighting style for Daniel. It’s usually a statup for most characters too like Samuel Seo and Zack Lee. Zack went from being wiped out by Chang, before absolutely demolishing Jackie Lee who was already stronger than Chang. Meanwhile Samuel went from being casually offed by a younger Jake Kim, Olly Wang, and Johan, to winning the 1v1v1v1 battle.
Seems simpler and makes more sense. It's called Self-Hatred and all but yeah
Everyone kinda just upscales to a Feat that Vasco does in a timeskip to the current arc. It makes sense that people at their best scale off of that, but the 'regular forms' of the guys aren't usually on that level.
No one scales to Manager Kim until Warren Chae was able to at least hurt him AFTER his training.
No one can scale to Daegu or Taesoo until Zack Lee's training. Scaling off of Goo is also not right since he's a god tier. The former's wall breaking feat also happened while he was pissed at James Lee and using his left arm. Arguably they can but it should be safer to scale a bit lower.
Instead we're going to scale them off of Hudson, who's left-handed attack (Vastly weaker than his right) performed that feat. Everyone on their base level scales off of that since Daniel Park can take some hits off of his right hand.
Heat Mode Variants can also scale off Vasco performing his wall destruction feat andEli smashing Johan into the wall
So we got an update to a previous feat! Hudson is carrying with his left fist now. Not too bad for a sun that always loses. Everyone easily scales off of this thanks to Daniel's peak form via C362.
Daniel Park True Body
Original | Post-Sophia Training | Post-Goo Training
Unknown | Unknown | Unknown
(Can save this for another time)
Due to the nature of his stats not scaling off of anyone, we cannot include Daniel Park's True Body as a key until we figure that out. I'll prepare this in a Blog while I work on it and find some exact measurements for feats like--
Breaking Tempered Glass
Or Daniel's feat of being smashed into a car hood with force, but essentially walks it off.
Daniel Park Perfect Body
Original | Heat Mode | UI Mode
9B (Hudson) | At least 9B, likely higher (Hudson) | 9A (Vasco)
Basic scaling will use Hudson as those are everyone's regular forms. | Eli's scaling comes from Heat Mode. This isn't just some "You have Heat Mode, you're on this stat" but also because they have fought with each other before. | Final scaling to Vasco comes from the timeskip and Daegu's training of Zack
Vasco
Regular | Heat Mode | Second Timeskip
9B (Hudson) | At least 9B, likely higher (Hudson) | 9A (Vasco)
Same ruling as Daniel
Johan Seong
God Dog Leader | Loner | Current
9B (Hudson) | At least 9B, likely higher (Hudson) | 9A (Vasco)
Same ruling as Daniel. Exception that the Eli feat is performed on him.
Vin Jin
Regular | Shadeless | Kudo
9B (Hudson) | At least 9B, likely higher (Hudson) | 9A (Vasco)
All of this will be Post-Timeskip Vin Jin. I'm wondering if we should include his Pre-Timeskip form but as of right now we shouldn't.
Zack Lee
Regular | Heat Mode | Post-Daegu Training
9B (Hudson) | At least 9B, likely higher (Hudson) | 9A (Vasco)
Same ruling as Daniel
Eli Jang
Regular | Beast mode | Next level
To clarify. Regular should feature him with or without tools.
Beast is Post-Tom Lee training
Next Level is part of his most recent fight at C407
9B (Hudson) | At least 9B, likely higher (Hudson) | 9A (Vasco)
Warren Chae
Regular | C&C
At least 9B, likely higher (Hudson) | 9A (Vasco)
Same ruling. 9B makes sense to be comparable to Eli since they fought before.
Jake Kim
Pre-Timeskip | Post-Timeskip | Heat Mode
9B (Hudson) | At least 9B, likely higher (Hudson) | 9A (Vasco)
Same ruling.
Samuel Seo
Regular | Heat Mode
At least 9B, likely higher (Hudson) | 9A (Vasco)
His regular form clashed with Daniel before. Not to mention clashed with Jake Kim too.
Aside from rewording some abilities to fit their keys, here are some bits.
Pain Tolerance - Adjust it so that UI mode does not feel any pain or injury until after it ends
(UI Only)
Damage Reduction - Pretty simple. He can reduce the damage he takes
(Applies to all except the Original body)
Limited Power Mimicry - Should be noted to be on a level higher than Johan. Johan's a genius that can copy anything he sees. Johan is praised by everyone so much and is feared for how strong he gets every single time he fights. Daniel can do the same too. However, Daniel in UI Mode completely masters anything he sees.
Limited Durability Negation - Can attack the joints but can perform attacks like the Liver Kick. In Viral Hit this is described as something that ignores conventional defenses. Systema also works through this
(Applies to all except the Original body). Also he does this against Gun lol. But Gun resists it like the ******* chad that he is. We'll have to note Gun's special resistance against that in the future.
Weapons Mastery - Started using brass knuckles and a whip and was able to use them full on against strong enemies immediately. The whip part is mostly the bigger one since Brass Knuckles are simple enough
(Applies to all except the Original body)
Reactive Evolution - This is a big one. Whenever he’s fighting a strong opponent, he levels up. But the enemy has to be close to his level. In one instance, Zack Lee was the one who overwhelmed him in the past. Hudson arguably is too.
To explain
Justifying this:
The fights after these are typically one sided
So far each time his matches have him either completely demolish the opponent, fall unconscious out of UI Mode, or fight god tiers before having the match be interrupted.
Further proof, fighters stat amp all the time mid-battle that happens all the time.
But the main argument focuses on the fact that Zack fight on the top.
(Applies only to Perfect Body)
Fear Inducement - He scared thugs before with his glare alone
Pain Tolerance - He’s not a *********… reword
Stat Amp - Via Heat Mode
Empowerment - Can do this by sheer rage and negative thinking. Basic stuff. Check out the Daniel vs Zack comparison on the reactive evolution.
Attack Reflection - He was able to use all the force of an attack and send it back
(Heat Mode and up only)
Instinctive Action - Part of Heat Mode
(Heat Mode and up)
Phew this took a lot of work.
Edit - BONUS ROUND
Johan also gets Reactive Evolution! He's the biggest proof there is that he gets stronger everytime he fights someone. He's basically a "Going Blind" Daniel Park version anyway.
Daniel Park's keys and explanation
Daniel Park’s Perfect Body and True Body can be separate to make it more convenient. There’s 3-4 forms for the Weak/True Body, and 3 forms for the Perfect Body. Having it all be in one key is going to be tricky along with all the rebalancing due to how different each one is. There others are getting increased keys too due to timeskip shenanigansHeat Mode is primarily added because it’s a major change of fighting style for Daniel. It’s usually a statup for most characters too like Samuel Seo and Zack Lee. Zack went from being wiped out by Chang, before absolutely demolishing Jackie Lee who was already stronger than Chang. Meanwhile Samuel went from being casually offed by a younger Jake Kim, Olly Wang, and Johan, to winning the 1v1v1v1 battle.
Rename Self-Hatred into Heat Mode
Seems simpler and makes more sense. It's called Self-Hatred and all but yeah
Tier changes with additional keys
Everyone kinda just upscales to a Feat that Vasco does in a timeskip to the current arc. It makes sense that people at their best scale off of that, but the 'regular forms' of the guys aren't usually on that level.
No one scales to Manager Kim until Warren Chae was able to at least hurt him AFTER his training.
No one can scale to Daegu or Taesoo until Zack Lee's training. Scaling off of Goo is also not right since he's a god tier. The former's wall breaking feat also happened while he was pissed at James Lee and using his left arm. Arguably they can but it should be safer to scale a bit lower.
Heat Mode Variants can also scale off Vasco performing his wall destruction feat and
So we got an update to a previous feat! Hudson is carrying with his left fist now. Not too bad for a sun that always loses. Everyone easily scales off of this thanks to Daniel's peak form via C362.
New Tiers and Keys
Daniel Park True Body
Original | Post-Sophia Training | Post-Goo Training
Unknown | Unknown | Unknown
(Can save this for another time)
Due to the nature of his stats not scaling off of anyone, we cannot include Daniel Park's True Body as a key until we figure that out. I'll prepare this in a Blog while I work on it and find some exact measurements for feats like--
Breaking Tempered Glass
Or Daniel's feat of being smashed into a car hood with force, but essentially walks it off.
Daniel Park Perfect Body
Original | Heat Mode | UI Mode
9B (Hudson) | At least 9B, likely higher (Hudson) | 9A (Vasco)
Basic scaling will use Hudson as those are everyone's regular forms. | Eli's scaling comes from Heat Mode. This isn't just some "You have Heat Mode, you're on this stat" but also because they have fought with each other before. | Final scaling to Vasco comes from the timeskip and Daegu's training of Zack
Vasco
Regular | Heat Mode | Second Timeskip
9B (Hudson) | At least 9B, likely higher (Hudson) | 9A (Vasco)
Same ruling as Daniel
Johan Seong
God Dog Leader | Loner | Current
9B (Hudson) | At least 9B, likely higher (Hudson) | 9A (Vasco)
Same ruling as Daniel. Exception that the Eli feat is performed on him.
Vin Jin
Regular | Shadeless | Kudo
9B (Hudson) | At least 9B, likely higher (Hudson) | 9A (Vasco)
All of this will be Post-Timeskip Vin Jin. I'm wondering if we should include his Pre-Timeskip form but as of right now we shouldn't.
Zack Lee
Regular | Heat Mode | Post-Daegu Training
9B (Hudson) | At least 9B, likely higher (Hudson) | 9A (Vasco)
Same ruling as Daniel
Eli Jang
Regular | Beast mode | Next level
To clarify. Regular should feature him with or without tools.
Beast is Post-Tom Lee training
Next Level is part of his most recent fight at C407
9B (Hudson) | At least 9B, likely higher (Hudson) | 9A (Vasco)
Warren Chae
Regular | C&C
At least 9B, likely higher (Hudson) | 9A (Vasco)
Same ruling. 9B makes sense to be comparable to Eli since they fought before.
Jake Kim
Pre-Timeskip | Post-Timeskip | Heat Mode
9B (Hudson) | At least 9B, likely higher (Hudson) | 9A (Vasco)
Same ruling.
Samuel Seo
Regular | Heat Mode
At least 9B, likely higher (Hudson) | 9A (Vasco)
His regular form clashed with Daniel before. Not to mention clashed with Jake Kim too.
Abilities added
Aside from rewording some abilities to fit their keys, here are some bits.
Daniel Park
Pain Tolerance - Adjust it so that UI mode does not feel any pain or injury until after it ends
(UI Only)
Damage Reduction - Pretty simple. He can reduce the damage he takes
(Applies to all except the Original body)
Limited Power Mimicry - Should be noted to be on a level higher than Johan. Johan's a genius that can copy anything he sees. Johan is praised by everyone so much and is feared for how strong he gets every single time he fights. Daniel can do the same too. However, Daniel in UI Mode completely masters anything he sees.
Limited Durability Negation - Can attack the joints but can perform attacks like the Liver Kick. In Viral Hit this is described as something that ignores conventional defenses. Systema also works through this
(Applies to all except the Original body). Also he does this against Gun lol. But Gun resists it like the ******* chad that he is. We'll have to note Gun's special resistance against that in the future.
Weapons Mastery - Started using brass knuckles and a whip and was able to use them full on against strong enemies immediately. The whip part is mostly the bigger one since Brass Knuckles are simple enough
(Applies to all except the Original body)
Reactive Evolution - This is a big one. Whenever he’s fighting a strong opponent, he levels up. But the enemy has to be close to his level. In one instance, Zack Lee was the one who overwhelmed him in the past. Hudson arguably is too.
To explain
- Zack post training dominated Daniel.
- However Daniel started overwhelming Zack again the more the battle continued
- Zack then got his Empowerment and managed to start overwhelming Daniel. A complete domination
- But then Daniel started adapting again. The battle ended with Zack thinking that Daniel was just going easy on him again.
Justifying this:
The fights after these are typically one sided
- UI mode had him overwhelm Jerry. Later on Jerry would confirm that he was about to get his ass kicked if he continued on. It was only UI ending by itself that Jerry didn't lose.
- His fight with Gun had him break an arm from Goo before going unconscious
- His fight with Samuel Seo ended up giving him Heat Mode
- Daniel Park in his fight with Hudson was able to overwhelm him, and even use his own Heat Mode again as a reaction to this. Not to mention started adapting such as using a weapon he never learnt before and emphasizing on kick focused combat
- Taesoo Ma’s match was interrupted but it was implied he was adapting
- UI Daniel completely wiped out everyone when he fought (Jake, Johan, and Samuel. Even Goo)
- UI Daniel completely demolished Johan in particular, who can only do nothing but copy and learn his new techniques. Even then he was completely demolished. The gap wasn't even closing between them despite arguably Johan having a similar Power Mimicry as him.
- UI Daniel fought against Goo with a weapon, a god tier that before falling unconscious. Also broke Goo’s arm
- Daniel one sidedly beat up Justin and Chuck, who in the past completely overwhelmed him until he teamed up with Zack.
- Cap Guy’s fight was strange. However Cap Guy is implied to be a god tier who specialized more on restraining and Daniel immediately lost any intention to fight when Eugene bribed him.
- Jake Kim’s fight he purposely lost
So far each time his matches have him either completely demolish the opponent, fall unconscious out of UI Mode, or fight god tiers before having the match be interrupted.
Further proof, fighters stat amp all the time mid-battle that happens all the time.
But the main argument focuses on the fact that Zack fight on the top.
(Applies only to Perfect Body)
Zack Lee
Fear Inducement - He scared thugs before with his glare alone
Pain Tolerance - He’s not a *********… reword
Stat Amp - Via Heat Mode
Empowerment - Can do this by sheer rage and negative thinking. Basic stuff. Check out the Daniel vs Zack comparison on the reactive evolution.
Attack Reflection - He was able to use all the force of an attack and send it back
(Heat Mode and up only)
Instinctive Action - Part of Heat Mode
(Heat Mode and up)
Phew this took a lot of work.
Edit - BONUS ROUND
Johan Seong
Johan also gets Reactive Evolution! He's the biggest proof there is that he gets stronger everytime he fights someone. He's basically a "Going Blind" Daniel Park version anyway.
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