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Ehat is there to answer about the second part? Any transformation can be copied, so his base power being weaker than at ful doesn't matter much.
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Protege vs Xeno Goku
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Actually, I am curious about this.
So, the protégé copies everything. But say Goku is SSB, and then uses Kaioken x20 for a speedblitz punch. Can the protégé copy before getting hit by that punch?
This match interests me only because Goku rarely starts off at full power (and manages to not get one shot even though his highest form should be hundreds of times stronger iirc, but maybe that's cause most on the show are like him).
So, the protégé copies everything. But say Goku is SSB, and then uses Kaioken x20 for a speedblitz punch. Can the protégé copy before getting hit by that punch?
This match interests me only because Goku rarely starts off at full power (and manages to not get one shot even though his highest form should be hundreds of times stronger iirc, but maybe that's cause most on the show are like him).
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Pretty sure that the time it takes for him to power up would be enough for the protege to copy it, it just happens that he would be able to stack them without backlash goku may have.
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Xeno Goku doesn't have SSJB. He has SSJ4.Litentric Teon said:
The Protege will copy all of Goku's Skill, Powers, and abilities. However, he will have the added benefits of having Infinite Energy and he will have The Beyonder's Powers.
And I am pretty sure Post-Retcon Beyonder has hax that would destroy Goku.
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Goku just punches.
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I'm pretty sure Protege copies before Goku's punch hits his face.Kyle Ramos said:
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how so
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I mean everyone else who used their power on Protege, just had their powers copied, and he wasn't destroyed instantly.Kyle Ramos said:
I'm pretty sure Goku would be in the same boat as them.
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I mean. Its a punch. And Xeno Goku mostly one shots people with his own durability.
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So, Protege wouldnt know any other techniques unless Goku shows them.
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But... he's strenght would be copied regardless if he did that. As I already explained.
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No.Kyle Ramos said:
The Protege will copy all of Goku's Skill, Powers, and abilities. However, he will have the added benefits of having Infinite Energy and he will have The Beyonder's Powers.
And I am pretty sure Post-Retcon Beyonder has hax that would destroy Goku.
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Didn't you say that he can't copy Goku's strength just by looking at him and that Goku has to use his power before it can be copied
So doesn't Goku just fly up and tap him before he can copy?
So doesn't Goku just fly up and tap him before he can copy?
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The flying over and tapping is Goku using his powers.Paul Frank said:
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Your just gonna ginore my reasoning?Paul Frank said:
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Flying isn't using his strength though and the tap would kill before he could see Goku's power right?
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Flying at such high speeds takes Ki.Paul Frank said:
Protege would copy instantly.
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What? He became 1-A from copying The Living Tribunal. He didn't do it on his own.Ricsi-viragosi said:
Goku flying over to attack Protege or throwing a Ki blast uses Ki, and because of that, Goku's powers, skills, and abilites all get copied instantly.
Everything Goku has + Infinite Energy + Beyonder's Hax makes it stomp AFAIK for Protege.
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Eternity plain said that he would become such a problem on his own if he wasn't dealt with.
And no, goku using a ki blast doesn't copy everything he has, at all.
And no, goku using a ki blast doesn't copy everything he has, at all.
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I didn't. I mentioned it in the part I just qouted.Hykuu said:
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You should bother refuting it if you wish to vote for goku.
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Dude, you have not really proven anything.
Protege's profile states that he needs to see the powers before copying them, so he can surely copy the strenght and technique of Goku's punch, but he lacks the durability of it and would just gett punched. Goku wins this most of the time, and Xeno Goku doesnt play around like his canon self.
Protege's profile states that he needs to see the powers before copying them, so he can surely copy the strenght and technique of Goku's punch, but he lacks the durability of it and would just gett punched. Goku wins this most of the time, and Xeno Goku doesnt play around like his canon self.
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Where?Ricsi-viragosi said:
That shit ain't anywhere on Protege's page.
Ki blast is Ki. Protege copies Goku's Ki level after Goku uses Ki to try and one-shot Protege.
And Goku's fist/Ki blast would fly right through Protege's shield via the monstrous AP difference.
Protege's shield would be as effective as Palutena's here.
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There were three scenes where they talked about him, it's not exactly incredible. And it's supposed to fall under the "
If he wasn't stopped, he would have continued to grow even stronger". The profile is lacking tough, he lacks light, helffire and so many more skills.
Yeah, but Ki on it's own is not everything goku has.
Yeah, but the action of breaking throuh it would allow the protege to copy his strenght. He could also just Summon Mephisto to stall goku for a few seconds.
If he wasn't stopped, he would have continued to grow even stronger". The profile is lacking tough, he lacks light, helffire and so many more skills.
Yeah, but Ki on it's own is not everything goku has.
Yeah, but the action of breaking throuh it would allow the protege to copy his strenght. He could also just Summon Mephisto to stall goku for a few seconds.
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Can you not read?Hykuu said:
"As for the fight, pretty sure the protege would make a barrier around him, and goku would merely break it... and get his strenght copied. "
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That just a stupid way to reason. He didn't accidentally rip himself apart every other time he copied strenght, and he never once saw anyone tank an attack, but I doubt you'd say he is not 1-A in his second key.Kyle Ramos said:
He copies all the physical atributes, not just strenght.
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If Goku throwing a punch and/or Ki blast isn't enough for Protege to copy Goku's strength, then a useless shield isn't going to do anything either.Ricsi-viragosi said:
And that's assuming Protege uses his shield.
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Goku wouldn't kiblast someone billions of times weaker for him, and the strenght needs to be actually showcased.
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Yes I can read, what are you trying to do here?
"As for the fight, pretty sure the protege would make a barrier around him, and goku would merely break it... and get his strenght copied. "
> Goku is a combat genius, he wouldn't just straight up attack a forcefield."
I am starting to doubt your capability of reading honestly.
"As for the fight, pretty sure the protege would make a barrier around him, and goku would merely break it... and get his strenght copied. "
> Goku is a combat genius, he wouldn't just straight up attack a forcefield."
I am starting to doubt your capability of reading honestly.
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That's... nonsensical however. Forcing their ways through forcefields isn't new in DB, and he knows that the protege is far weaker.
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Just saying, Info analysis means Goku knows he power copies
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>copying Goku's "Ki level" means that protege instantly knows all possible ways Goku has to use it.
That is utterly absurd in many levels.
That is utterly absurd in many levels.
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I'm honestly finding it hilarious that people are assuming that Goku can get around power copy that has been successfully used on THE LIVING TRIBUNAL.
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Goku can sense otgers power levels dude, that's pretty important for him. And why would he not do anything when he gets forcefully teleported into the beyonders dimension into a forcefield?
And no, goku can only get actual specific techniques, and I doubt he would even use it. Plus, he'd have no idea how it works.
And no, goku can only get actual specific techniques, and I doubt he would even use it. Plus, he'd have no idea how it works.
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Good thing I said that that's wrong. You were the one claiming that him flying over there and punching would get all his skills copied.Kyle Ramos said:
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