First off... Chariot: I’m just gonna clarify some stuff.
That's true, I'll continue doing so if needed.
Also Chariot: wall of text that’s longer than my average college paper.
Well may as well go in all right? Though, as said, I'm just tossing ideas out now that may not have been mentioned, though if it escalates into an actual debate I'm out, I don't have the time to make this thread my main priority.
Second off, I must apologize... cause I’m pretty sure all of this is irrelevant. You see Paradox has 4-A AP for this: “Moved an entire nebula” and he can basically splice that thing apart, so he can just rip Dio apart (past his regen) by pointing at him or snapping his fingers most likely.
That's probably the worst possible thing Paradox could do, because the moment Dio starts getting telekinetic shredded, his Stand is gonna RO the damage while it's happening and then they're both gonna immediately **** off beyond the ability of Paradox to reach them, and at that point, Dio can still fight and attack, Paradox can't. And it just becomes a game of how long can Paradox last.
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this thread and time travel should fall under the “other” section. This isn’t really applied anywhere as far as I’m aware but it’s the best thread/explanation regarding prep time that we have. Obviously stands fall under “opponent and their abilities”.
And how is he going to figure that out exactly? If he can reasonably figure out what Dio can do or what he has that's one thing, but prep isn't exactly going to help him at all in figuring this out, even with time travel and the like. He can't exactly research Dio in a book, or ask people, given everyone is either dead, or if time travel is used, they don't know anything about him. Dio, except to very few people, even knew he had a Stand and even less knew what it could do, and that's before he had heaven, and in regards to heaven Dio, only two people in existence knew his Stand's capabilities. And one is basically on Dio's ass at all times. And the other just gambles all day and is barely involved with Dio. Secondly, he's going to research his opponent, realistically speaking, he's not going to find out anything about Stands, there's absolutely nothing that would logically tip him off or make him aware of they're existence unless he's outright told that they exist ahead of time by someone (Which is doubtful given how people treat Stands in-universe, as some ultra secret you dont tell anyone or anything). Because let me remind you, Paradox doesn't have EP, he can't sense or see Stands to begin with, and if there's absolutely nothing, even while researching, that would suggest Dio has some invisible spiritual guardian that can be summoned at a thought, Paradox isn't going to find out untill it's to late, and even then, I doubt his first guess would be of that and he'd just assume Dio has range or telekinetic abilities first before deducting it's what a Stand is.
Certain traps could be considered somewhat of the “same thing” but not all of them obviously.
Well whatever traps those are would probably be rendered moot.
So since Paradox will know before the battle starts that a cloaking shield isn’t gonna work.
How would he know that? Prep time isn't going to tell him what is and isn't gonna work unless he goes to **** with HA Dio and test some shit while prepping, and at that point he's just getting into a fight with HA Dio while far less prepared. There's absolutely no way Paradox would know ahead of time that his cloaking shield likely won't work against HA Dio because there's literally no way for him to figure that out unless he tests it himself.
He just stays on the battlefield and points at Dio/snaps his fingers. Dio’s teleportation takes a few seconds so he’s dead before Paradox gets BFR’d. The only problem would be his summons. Who wins if Dio is dead, his summons alive and Paradox BFR’d? How easily can Paradox deal with his summons assuming he isn’t BFR’d?
I'm going to be honest here, why is Paradox's game plan suddenly so drastically different?
Nothing has change in regards to him, his prep time wont tell him his cloaking shield wont work and he'd be extremely unlikely to find out Dio has a Stand and what a Stand is if he isn't going in with the assumption of Dio already having something akin to one and supergenius or not, I don't think that's something one would just assume. The worst part being if he actually does use time travel to figure out what Dio can do, there's the chance he may gather bad intel given how Dio's powers have changed, if goes in thinking he's only fighting Shadow Dio or something, that's gonna end badly.
And no to mention, if Paradox stays on the battlefield now as his new game plan, what's stopping Dio from like,
Dio's teleport pre key takes like half a second, though if he uses TWOH, he could likely make that instant.
The summons aren't really an issue to be blunt, only like 4 are a issue, and one needs prep time, and the rest need Dio's help, except maybe Cream and King Crimson but i doubt any would get the chance and King Crimson is mostly just useful here because he can delete actions assuming the time aspect fails to work.
Though I did go and check and unfortunately a few of Dio's moves like GoB, eyesight removal and the like are post only, though luckily it doesnt effect anything, though the sense removal would have been helpful.
To summarise.
I stand by what I said, even with prep time, there's no real feasible way he'd learn what a Stand is, what Dio's can do and so on with just three days of prep unless he's going in already under the assumption that Dio has something similar given how Stands are treated in universe and how secret Dio's was.
There's no way he'd know if his cloak would work or wouldnt work either, at all, I don't think there's anyway at all for him to even figure that out, even with time fuckery, without actually testing it against HA Dio.
Though, if Paradox can reasonably figure put certain parts of Dio's capabilities within his time limit, that should be fine. Things like him being a vampire and the like should be extremely easy to figure out for example.
Paradox's TK could be a issue, in fact, it's a huge issue, but opening with that isn't exactly a good idea, all that would do is have TWOH instantly heal Dio and then they'd both **** off immediately. If his tk isn't going to instantly kill him, it's a bad move and only makes it so he can longer reach Dio. TK would be a issue if TWOH was already busy or rendered incapicated, even if briefly, at that point TK would be a winning move, but given the above two points, that may not be super likely, at least not intentionally.
HA Dio's teleport, at least when used on himself, can be as quick as just a split second, though if he uses TWOH to teleport (unsure how likely this is, it's not exactly something he does often, it's just something he
can do, but if he's getting torn apart, that could become a very real possibility), it'd be instant the moment TWOH activates it on contact.
Dio's summons are real only useful if they work together with Dio. By themselves they shouldn't be an issue outside of real specific ones like MIH just making them so incredibly fast they proceed to blitz, though that's only helpful if Paradox sticks around to start, because none can traverse alternate universes except Funny, and Funny isnt gonna do **** all if he isnt forced.
