Can you just close the thread? Baki threads never lead anywhere because the user are either to stubborn or new users come in out of no where to voice their opinions. Nobody actually debunked by points. But because people are completely not paying attention to the points I actually made. Prime Doppo hasn’t been debunked and I want to address the rest of Baki scaling with my next few crt
I didn't debunked your points, i added new to explain why there was a retcon, is different.
Also i'm not even talking of PS anymore i'm just talking about narrative and why there's a clear retcon.
I wouldn’t call it a retcon. But sure show your points lol.
Then i will wait for your points, there's no need to close the thread, just come back when you got your counterarguments ready.
Motobe passed from threatening to kill someone without an actual reason to risk his life to save people with no further context.
The thing was not "changed a bit" Characters was completely rewrited, and so everything else
^ literally what I was going to type
Thank you Dark-Carioca. But was also going to add scans as well
Not only that, his personality completely changed.
That's really a bad habit i got sorry xddd
That's not really how a retcon works, most stuff can be retconned but letting some stuff up, at least that's how people in general use the term, you just need to look at the Wikipedia page
There's a ton of things Itagaki didn't said and we use it due to being logical, this doesn't actually means anything, Itagaki is not constantly speaking to answer every little doubt we have.
The first part is not actually a thing, a character being rewritten is not character maturing, why would Baki became more coward post 13yr/o to became more determined and aggresive immediately after?, and the "Itagaki realized" thing is literally what retcon means, rewritting stuff for narrative purporses.
It doesn't, when i was rereading the series i seen a ton of weird stuff that should apply for retcon, but i didn't wrote that in my note cuz i fault it was irrelevant, for that i said i will reread it, so i WILL have more arguments within a few hours.
EXACTLY LMAO, Baki pre-13yro got affraid of Kosho's brother just cuz he fault that he was too strong for him! Baki didn't even wanna fought him because he was very intimidated, you are talking of the POST-RETCON Baki, which is extemely brave, but that's precisely cuz the Post-Retcon Baki HAS Character development.
Oh I thought you call teenage Baki a coward. No your still wrong. It’s literally character development, he goes from being nervous in fights to wanting to fight. Like your legit wrong
You really don't get my point: He already pass something far more exreme in the Yasha fight and also with Gaia, he being affraid of Kureha is just inconsistent when he already learnt in the past to be more brave.
Oh my god your wrong. You do realize the fight with Kureha happened before the Yashe Ape and especially Gaia? Like after the Gaia fight he went to go fight Yujiro. Then Yujiro killed his mom which made Baki have a new goal in his life is to avenge his mother.
No... i mean, in the Manga it happened before, but CRONOLOGICALLY it happened after, that's precisely what i'm talking about.
This is actually very important since as i said i'm rereading and taking note of relevant stuff like feats and there's a ton of feats that should be calced and likely gonna upgrade the verse, so the new scaling is very relevant.
Oh don’t worry I’ve already got that done for lol
Thanks god, i hope seeing Retsu in Building lvl as he deserves
Personally i always preferred him like in 7-A but never found good feats about it.Also Yujiro is gonna be 7-B so not like 7-C matters
Isekai Retsu isn't like, Pickle lvl xd?
Wrong. Isekai Retsu is 7-A due to scaling to the real Retsu, who has the rating due to being best girl. The only other character who would scale to this is Shinogi, since he is also best girl.
prime doppo does not exist picke nor mushashi or sukune are promoted as threats to armies but they are stronger nonetheless. olive who is promoted as a threat to armies if it does not affect amanai or others escalate that yujiro
Keep this open, I'll make a comment later.
Why do you keep commenting on baki related threads when you have clearly no clue on what you're talking about ? Strydium isn't the only one who comments on Yujiro getting stronger, Baki says it as well and he explicitly mentions that his growth is so significant that he can't be considerd the same man Doppo fought.
Sure let's just randomly assume Strydiumis wrong becuase it doesn't fit your pre conceived narratives about the fictional verse we are scaling. Absolutely preposterous.
Strydum literally knew Yujiro during his teenage years and is totally qualified to see Yujiro insane growth. Hell there are feats of training that we can literally use to prove these characters grow stronger.
cool, got a statement from Itagaki about this? No? I don't care. You're entirely arguing off of disbelief and your own personal views of the series. I won't even entertain this "argument".
He's probably the single person who knows Yujiro best, he's known him since he was a boy, they hang out regularly, why would he not be reliable? And again, Baki confirms it, so what's this even about? And btw, we wouldn't even need a statement when we have such ridiculously blatant examples of him getting stronger.
what do you mean "unquantifiable"? I literally quantified it in my comment, y'all gotta stop with this dumbass concept that if there isn't a number attached to an improvement then it can just be ignored, we see him be comparable to Motobe in base, Motobe gets negged by the Yokozuna, Yujiro casually overpowers the Yokozuna. That's it, this is undeniable proof that Yujiro got massively stronger, you don't need a number or anything like this, you have a direct scaling chain right here of Yujiro getting stronger to the point where he would be able to casually fold his past self. You ignoring this doesn't make it go away, you calling it "unquantifiable" doesn't mean anything, you either debunk this, or you don't have an argument to stand on, stop derailing.
Will reply to this later, trying to take a swing on me isn't gonna do you any good there buddy ol pal. If we're gonna turn this into a contest of insults then I can guarantee you, that's a route you aren't gonna be winning with me.
