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I suppose so, but I still do not like that our search engine optimisation is already so awful. We are popular despite Google downranking us, through sheer quality and hard work, not because of them upranking us.
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Powers & Abilities Formatting [Staff Only]
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I can't speak on that much. How about for now we leave them out of our guidelines and see if we run into any issues in the future and deal it then?
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We need to do something about this. A lot of pages has been updated into the new P&A format, and boy do they look horrendous. No offence meant to the editors, but holy crap, some pages like Sonic makes one's eyes bleed because of how bad they look. We need to make the CRT thing mandatory before more pages are changed to thisugly format.
We need to do something about this. A lot of pages has been updated into the new P&A format, and boy do they look horrendous. No offence meant to the editors, but holy crap, some pages like Sonic makes one's eyes bleed because of how bad they look. We need to make the CRT thing mandatory before more pages are changed to this
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Well, a CRT should always be mandatory for these things anyway since they're significant changes to the pages, no?
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Should be but a lot of pages are being changed without it.
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Okay, if somebody doesn't link a CRT in the edit description when updating a page with these, then I think it's fair game to revert it until a CRT addresses it.
Agreed?
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Sure, sounds good to me. Should we make an announcement or something about it?
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They look amazing to me. Better to read too.
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It is indeed a nightmare. Like, it makes sense to make up to 3 subtabbers but anymore than that and you're not really getting much benefits out of it.
The bullet-pointing also only works if you're like, doing it to a short list. Doing it to a gargantuan wall of hax not only looks horrendous, but will outright start slowing down your machine entirely, making edits even more painful.
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Its a personal preference, ofc, but I think other supporters of the verse also need to place their thoughts on it. So that's why CRTs should he made mandatory.
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Ideally most abilities would need a justification on them except for something that is extremely obvious and needs no elaboration such as Superhuman Physical Characteristics.
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I would add abilities that would require long descriptions and detailing, in that case I think it's fine to just list the core power and then leave the explanation to other sections within the profile.
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The main problem here is that most of our members do not read our rules, and ignore our notifications, and I am doing most of the edit-patrolling in the wiki on my own, so once we have established a certain standard, it is automatically going to spread like a wildfire. So that heavily implies that we need an either-or option.
I suppose that we could mention the rule within the standard format for character profile pages page within the section where the powers and abilities lists are mentioned in the first place though, as well as set up a wiki management forum thread where our members should always ask for permission, and link to it in conjunction, if you all think that would be sufficient.
I can probably also highlight this thread here in this forum if you wish.
I suppose that we could mention the rule within the standard format for character profile pages page within the section where the powers and abilities lists are mentioned in the first place though, as well as set up a wiki management forum thread where our members should always ask for permission, and link to it in conjunction, if you all think that would be sufficient.
I can probably also highlight this thread here in this forum if you wish.
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Sincerely, beyond Superhuman Physical Characteristics, all should powers should have something said in the parenthesis, just remembering some profiles i've seen with the new format - bullet points (just a few powers explained while the rest have nothing makes the profile look worse that the current state).
Yeah, a crt/talk between the supporters of the verse should be mandatory before applying the new format but if there just one supporter/or just one member still active I guess its then to their discretion what to change and what to not.
Yeah, a crt/talk between the supporters of the verse should be mandatory before applying the new format but if there just one supporter/or just one member still active I guess its then to their discretion what to change and what to not.
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I was suggesting a more general wiki management thread in which our members can link to sandbox drafts for what the character profile pages would look like after their revisions, not separate threads for each verse, but it isn't like I have a firm conviction either way about this topic.
Anyway, @Confluctor , can you link to the pages that you think have been negatively impacted by this change, and as sich currently look bad, please, so we can more easily evaluate if it seems like a serious problem?
Anyway, @Confluctor , can you link to the pages that you think have been negatively impacted by this change, and as sich currently look bad, please, so we can more easily evaluate if it seems like a serious problem?
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Sonic the Hedgehog (Archie Pre-Genesis Wave)
Sonic the Hedgehog, born Maurice Hedgehog, is the eponymous protagonist in the Sonic the Hedgehog comic series and its spin-offs published by Archie Comics, of the same name. He is a mobian hedgehog gifted with incredible speed and the power to harness Chaos Energy. Known for an overconfident...
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Sonic the Hedgehog (Modern)
Sonic the Hedgehog (ソニック・ザ・ヘッジホッグ, Sonikku za Hejjihoggu) is Sega's mascot and the eponymous protagonist of the Sonic the Hedgehog video game series. He is an anthropomorphic hedgehog born with the ability to run faster than at the speed of sound and beyond, hence his name, and possesses...
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Two of the worst ones imo
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This one almost seems like a Work in Progress. Some of the abilities are the old format and some are not.
Too many tabs on this one, and some unnecessary scrollboxes.
I agree that both need changing.
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Not sure about work in progress tbh, the file was changed a while ago - like quite a while ago - and still haven't been fixed.
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Do you have any suggestions for what can be done to improve their layout structures?
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@Damage3245 @Confluctor
It is important that we finish this discussion. We likely need to write some official instructions for when the format is or isn't appropriate to apply at least.
Also, should I send a notification to everybody else in our staff who commented here previously?
It is important that we finish this discussion. We likely need to write some official instructions for when the format is or isn't appropriate to apply at least.
Also, should I send a notification to everybody else in our staff who commented here previously?
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I don't think a mass-notification is necessary until we get a draft of some guidelines.
I'll see what I can come up with.
I'll see what I can come up with.
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The first thing i want to prevent is the terrifying 4 layers of tabber. It is insane
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Agreed. I think we need a rule that three tabbers deep is the limit. If you're having to use more than that, then something is wrong.
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Any file with more than 10 or 15 abilities shouldn't qualify for this new format. I could work with less, but anything above... It's a nightmare
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Yes. Agreed.
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Okay. Would that be acceptable for you, Damage?
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Well, not really. It depends on how it is implemented. A profile could have more than 10 abilities but still utilize the new list format if tabbers and scrollboxes are used.
And this format was introduced to deal with huge difficult-to-read walls of text in the first place which typically comes from more abilities.
Gas for example over over 30 abilities in his section but is a great example of a useful, organized Powers & Abilities section.
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I obviously disagree, that does look terrible to me.
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Well, before my suggestions, the page would probably have looked like this:
Maybe that works for some, but for me it is a clear downgrade in terms of usefulness - both as a viewer simply looking at it, and as an editor who has to go into the source code and navigate a wall of text.
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Honestly? Looks much better to me ¯\(ツ)/¯
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Well, there's no solution to personal taste so I can respect that you may enjoy viewing it like that, but the proposed formatting changes are for improving readability and making editing easier.
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