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So if you agree that 3-B wouldn't work, then how does 4-A work? You are flat out saying that they are Low 2-C individually, which is kinda our point. I am not actually supporting 3-B, I'm bringing it up because if you truly want to bring up this low end, this is really how low it would go. It's been very clear at this point that Bowser isn't extending the worlds, but rather getting them through a spatial-temporal barrier.And this is all excluding the separation of space-time continuums. Meaning 3-B would not work at all and 1/15th of High 3-A is still High 3-A and combine that with having different flows of time makes them all Low 2-C individually.
But I still think Dino is right for other reasons, the Encompassing all reality doesn't mean all 15 of them together are the same size as the real world. Only that he will over time expand those worlds to reach Universal size whether it be creating multiple worlds or making the 15 realms grow bigger. If he could create 15 universes already, I'd assume he'd be able to encompass the real world rather instantly.
So I'm against assuming a random middle 3-B, I'm only okay with 4-A being the absolute minimum. And I know Dino is still against Low 2-C, but I'm neutral whether or not they are Low 2-C.
Note: I'd upload them on Imgur to save space, but Imgur is being glitchy for me for some reason.
- "It is assumed that Bowser, with the power of the Stars at his disposal, intends to extend his reach over the real world."
- "A competing theory suggests that Bowser will simply extend his painting worlds so that they encompass all of reality."
It is stated that Bowser is extending his reach to the real world with the power of the stars. And it is later specified what he is extending. The painting worlds. He is extending the reach of the painting worlds so that they reach Mario's universe. He is not extending the size of them, he's extending their reach so that it affects the real world. Bowser needs the stars to put the painting worlds in Mario's reality. The fact that they can encompass all of reality would imply that the Power Stars have created universe-sized pocket realities. It is never implied that the stars extend the sizes of the pocket dimensions themselves, but rather that he needs the stars to have them affect Mario's world.
So do we go with 4-A, possibly Low 2-C since DDM is fine with that, while the larger majority still agrees with Low 2-C?Medeus seems to make sense to me.
I think that we already use "At least 4-A, likely Low 2-C".So do we go with 4-A, possibly Low 2-C since DDM is fine with that, while the larger majority still agrees with Low 2-C?
I meant for the Power Stars, since they're 4-A as of now.I think that we already use "At least 4-A, likely Low 2-C".
Citation needed. Did you talk to the first Toad you meet in the castle?From research I've been doing on the Japanese text, I actually can't find a statement that Bowser created the worlds in it.
This seems very important, yes.From research I've been doing on the Japanese text, I actually can't find a statement that Bowser created the worlds in it.
All I see is Bowser trapped peeps in the World of Painting and wanted to make monsters that will leak out of the paintings and into the real world.
Maybe I'm missing something but I'd like proof Bowser created these worlds from the Japanese text as well.
Thank you.
"Bowser has used the power stars to create enemy lands inside the walls and paintings. Get all the stars back!"
♧¤,《□•¤⊙▪︎⊙♡■《♧¤●.If there was, would I have any reason to omit it out?
May I ask where that would be?qI believe the remake on 3D All Stars that mentioned the creation of Worldwide Dimensions.
"Bowser has used the power stars to create enemy lands/realms inside the walls and paintings. Get all the stars back!"
@Dino_Ranger_Blackクッパはパワースターをつかって『かべ』や『え』のなかにカイブツのくにをつくろうとしています。スターをとりかえして!
Koopa (Bowser) has used the Power Stars to cover up the monster lands submerged in the "walls" and "paintings". You have to get the stars back!
This is what I got from this.
I believe the remake on 3D All Stars that mentioned the creation of Worldwide Dimensions. And the remake takes priority given how recent it was. But Power Stars should logically scale from Luma feats regardless yeah.
May I ask where that would be?q
@DatOneWeebDatOneWeeb was the one who shared them with me.
Could just be Wormholes to other places really, not like Bowser’s architecture in his kingdom isn’t already “floating block with traps”, I mean look at some of his airships or the several different airborne worlds in the entire franchiseMind you, "bowser didn't create these worlds" makes many plot holes.
Like Bowser's Dark Worlds, What exactly are those supposed to be?
Why would peach suddenly has lands of monsters inside the walls and painting (espacially lethal lava land) in her castle?
If these already exist, how is bowser aware of the stages inside the walls but not aware of secret stages? Why would bowser even be aware of the painting? Etc
Why would you campare this to post-game gimmick for the sake of replay value and in fact that there is paintings in many kingdoms that lead you to other kingdoms in odyssey not just peach's castle.Could just be Wormholes to other places really, not like Bowser’s architecture in his kingdom isn’t already “floating block with traps”, I mean look at some of his airships or the several different airborne worlds in the entire franchise
that’s also how it works in Mario Odyssey as well, and really that game just seems to confirm Peach’es odd habits too considering her castles not taken over and it has several paintings which lead to past bosses, including Bowser