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Possible Devil May Cry revisions

ItalianGuy1234

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So according to this page https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Nero_(Devil_May_Cry) Nero is rated at 8-A (Multi-City Block level) for being equal to DMC 3 Dante. Because I've recently replayed DMC4 and I have found evidence to suggest Nero might be higher than what he's believed to be.

We'll start off by presenting some characters.

Meet Abigail https://www.google.it/imgres?imgurl...azTAhVOUlAKHU18C7IQMwgcKAEwAQ&iact=mrc&uact=8

Basically a ancient giant demon who wants to conquer the universe and blah blah blah Clearly very original and all but that's not the reason I'm bringing him up.

The dude in question has a casual Multi-Continent level feat -> https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/U..._May_cry_anime_episode_12_stuff?useskin=oasis

Now, in case you lived under a rock or you didn't watch DMC the Animated Series, Dante is casually stomping this bad dude here -> https://youtu.be/l_TqBlQGxrY

Fortunately enough Nero fights Dante too, so we can compare the feats

- At 6:10 Nero blocks Dante's stinger combo from Dante's rebellion https://youtu.be/GIpbY_TjzkA

- Abigail heavily struggles and is overpowered by a simple swing of Dante 3:16 https://youtu.be/l_TqBlQGxrY

Clash:

-Nero overpowers Dante and lays a beating on him https://youtu.be/GIpbY_TjzkA Time 7:35

-Abigail gets stomped -> https://youtu.be/l_TqBlQGxrY 3:20

Moving on:

-An extremely pissed off Abigail beats down Dante https://youtu.be/l_TqBlQGxrY 2:20 >Dante casually shruggs it off and mocks him for being weak

-A relatively casual Nero pummels Dante https://youtu.be/GIpbY_TjzkA 7:35 >Dante is almost forced to use his Devil Trigger > It actually takes him some time to recover > He actually felt the hits > Even praises Nero's strengh

is Nero above Baul and Modeus? Yes, he is. They're fodder, Dante one hit KO'd a bloodlusted Baul, hell he even trolls him by saying Sparda's swordsmanship is trash ->https://youtu.be/qPMNWFmD5Qw Time 1:13

Nero defeated Sanctus Diabolica who had taken Sparda's sword (same sword used by Dante in DMC1 ) so in power he should be at least comparable or greater than Sparda's generals -> https://youtu.be/xNwN70z3V3g Time 6:40

Not convinced yet?

Dante was having trouble taking down the Savior https://youtu.be/xnyQ_iMwaZc 5:38 despite fighting with for a while

Nero shows up and one shots the dude -> https://youtu.be/xnyQ_iMwaZc 7:40

When Nero and Dante fight again, Nero successfully knocks away Rebellion https://youtu.be/armk6g6XQxw Time 3:40

At time 4:10 we see Dante heavily breathing Now normally that wouldn't suit someone who is being casual, would it?

So based on the evidence here:

┬À Nero Pre Devil Trigger would probably smack Abigail

┬À Nero is possibly stronger or at least comparable to Base DMC4 Dante whom had almost used the Devil Trigger yet he never did such thing during the rest of the game and he was visually fatigued in his clashes with the former

┬À Post Devil Trigger Nero is much stronger than base and he can one shot people who Dante had trouble taking down (At least a casual Dante)

┬À Nero defeated Sanctus Diabolica whom had gained Sparda's sword and its powers, thus making him at least above the likes of Modeus and Baul.

My proposal here is this:

Nero

Attack potency: Likely High 6-A (Nero could perform better than Abigail, Baul and Modeus against a non serious Dante ) | At least High 6-A possibly higher (On top of being stronger than before, Dante was visually fatigued in their second clash and he was overhelmed in a swordfight )

Speed: Massively Hypersonic+, likely Sub relativistic | Massively Hypersonic+ with Sub relativistic combat and reactions

If this gets accepted, Credo and Sanctus Diabolica's ratings will get upgraded.

In case the High 6-A rating is too much, I believe an "At least 6-B | High 6-B" rating for Nero is reasonable, there's no way Nero is below Tier 6-B even if we use the "Dante was holding back !" argument.
 
When Dante fought nero he wasn't taking the fight seriously he was holding back and playing with Nero with Abigail Dante had to go devil trigger to defeat him
 
the problem is that well…Dante was just holding back like immensely which is the reason why Nero can even fight him tbf


Edit: Also humans kind of have a history of not being able to fully maximize the power of Sparda as Arkham was demoted into a blob instead so there is that meaning Sanctus may not be able to use its true power
 
EOS Nero should be atleast strong as base dante

nero was able to one shots last giant boss(Savior) so i think its reasonable

EOS Nero=base dante
 
Omimi said:
EOS Nero should be atleast strong as base dante

nero was able to one shots last giant boss(Savior) so i think its reasonable

EOS Nero=base dante
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The savior was weakened after Nero defeated Sanctus even when it was at full power it still had trouble fighting a non serious Dante
 
ItalianGuy1234 said:
@Redgrave @Sparda my argument doesn't rely on Dante being serious or not
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But you are comparing Nero and Abigail when you shouldn't Dante in both of his fights with Nero he was hold back something both Nero and Dante admitted but when Dante fought Abigail he didn't casual one shot him if you watch their clash again base Dante was serious and he was struggling a little it's only when he enters his devil trigger he wins
 
I am not able to gauge the veracity of this, but would appreciate more staff input.
 
Sparda 20000000 said:
When Dante fought nero he wasn't taking the fight seriously he was holding back and playing with Nero with Abigail Dante had to go devil trigger to defeat him
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I always felt Nero was overpowering in their second fight due to dante messing around , he beat him due to experience different , in one of DMC4 novel when nero went againts the savior dante said he may have more raw power than him
 
Nero is not comparable to Dante, since he was not serious in the entire game and The Saviour was depowered to the point that Nero could destroy it.
 
Bro? How?

Dante is literally laughing, joking, not even using both weapons at the start and no styles.

He puts a SLIGHT bit of effort in the next fight, he flicks Nero's wrist so hard it sends him into a wall, and defeats Nero while not even winded. Yes, Dante physical overpowered Nero's DEMONIC arm with his wrist alone.

The fight was only there as a game mechanic and fight, but it's obvious from outside that Dante is not really trying. Similar to how Zack 'heald his own' against Sephiroth.
 
After reading the post it have few problems

1-Dante never defeated Abigail in base , in first round he got defeat easily by him and in second round when they clashed at full power you can even see dante being pushed back until he use DT

2-Abigail = mundus is BS due to him being easily beat by DT dante , he's as strong as neo angel at best

2-Dante did 90% of the job on the savior and sanctus wasn't even inside it anymore "hence it call false savior " nero just did the final blow

3-dante entering the DT for a second was because he made contact with nero devil power "it's explained in the DMC4 novel " dante DT simply if he were to be touched by nero demonic aura + it make no sense for him to DT in their first fight when he defeated nero easily in their second fight where nero is a lot stronger

4-Humans can't use Spara power even if they get his sword that was explained in DMC3
 
Dante didn't use DT against the savior + he didn't want to kill dante and kyrie inside it , even if you were to say dante couldn't put down the savior without killing him that only goes for base dante
 
I think this is the best time to mention it but Dante and some of the other characters in devil may cry are missing some abilities from their page this includes


Soul manipulation


Hellfire manipulation


Immortality


Resistance to mind control illusions time stop absolute zero spatial manipulation
 
beside the absolute zero when was the other abilities used ?

also half-demons are not immortal in any sense
 
ZERO7772 said:
Wait is just saw Lucia is 3-A why the hell is that ?
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She killed Arius-Argosax, which is Arius after drawing the power of Argosax, who fought Devil May Cry 2 Dante, which is superior to Sparda.
 
With immortality I'm talking about mundus sparda baul and modeus in the games they were over two thousand years old


Ifrit one of Dante's devil arms controls hellfire


Soul manipulation is how Dante creates his devil arms by absorbing the souls of demon bosses


Resistance to mind control alastor tried to inslave Dante but couldn't again in the anime a motorcycle demon who controls people into crash couldn't control Dante


Resistance to illusion because Yamato has shown the ability to cut illusions both dante and Nero have Yamato in their equipment


Resistance to time stop because the bangle of time didn't work on mundus and nelo Angelo in the last fight


Resistance to spatial manipulation because Dante could block the spatial attacks from Yamato with royal guard
 
The whole things with Argosax is confusing , I never completed DMC2 but from what i know they never said he is superior to sparda , according to the old lady it's THEY who needed sparda help to seal him not sparda who needed help , sparda can't kill him because he's immortal

I may be wrong tho , it just this argosax guy seems to much of joke because he got stomped by Base dante , at least make dante use he's Majin form lol

anyway another another question why the god tier character are put straight up 3-A ? last time i checked we were not sure whatever it's outlier or not
 
Please stop spamming the page by quoting long posts. Thank you.
 
Yo Matt, since we're on DMC I want to clarify.

The ONLY people on Mundus level are Sparda DMC2 Dante, Arius, Argosax and Lucia.

Dante wasn't on Sparda level in 4, Abigail had only a fraction of his power drained due to Sid not being strong enough to contain it, similar to Arkham.
 
And I forgot to put transmutation via Gilgamesh it can absorb organic matter and transform it into steel and Dante can harm intangible demons he is also invulnerable in the majin form
 
Gargoyle 1 said:
Abigail had only a fraction of his power drained due to Sid not being strong enough to contain it, similar to Arkham.
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Interesting this is first time i heard it when was this mentioned ?
 
Mentioned? Never. But implied, similar to Dante surpassing Sparda.

For one, Sid mentions"Are those born weak destined to be weak" Implying that Sid new his power wasn't fully realized.

Second, it downright doesn't make sense that Sid can control Abigail while Arkham, who owned a weakened Dante and Vergil couldn't control Sparda, and Arius, someone who defeated Lucia, failed to control it and got possessed with only a fraction of Argosaxs power.
 
Nothing....As I already stated he doesn't.

Just wanted to help with your future DMC thread since, no offense, but you had a lot of misinformation.
 
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