Pokémon: The High 6-C Re-Redowngrading

[The_real_cal_howard]

NF already calc'd it, but I'd still prefer it if Kep calced this. If he wants to downgrade Pokemon then he should take responsibility for this ovo

(I've gotten over my moment of pettiness. Just a joke. Plz don't kill meee)

 

[WeeklyBattles]

https://jb2448.info/index.php?/category/1672

Here is the entire chapter

 

[LephyrTheRevanchist]

That Delibird has also fought with legendaries, mainly Ho-Oh, and it's what lead to Mask of Ice capturing him in the final chapters of GSC arc.

Don't know if anything from it can be used for normal pokémon.

 

[Cropfist]

It was also a highly trained one.

 

[LephyrTheRevanchist]

It was so strong, Gold could only defeat it via hax with Perish Song, lol.

 

[Sigurd_Snake_in_The_Eye]

no way that scales then lol

 

[Imaginym]

So we have a case of a Delibird that the protagonist couldn't defeat, fought with at least 1 Legendary Pokemon, & its best feat matches a common tier for various Legendary Pokemon?

 

[Kaltias]

There is also Magnitude 10 being 6-C with radiated waves

^ There is still this supporting 6-C

 

[Kepekley23]

I'm pretty sure there has never been an outside of gameplay instance of Magnitude 10 being used in the entire Pokémon universe. It can be learned and potentially used by by normal Geodudes, Sandshrews, and other first evos so I'm very, very suspicious of scaling it to anything.

 

[Executor_N0]

I'm pretty sure there has never been an outside of gameplay instance of Magnitude 10 being used in the entire Pokémon universe. It can be learned and potentially used by by normal Geodudes, Sandshrews, and other first evos so I'm very, very suspicious of scaling it to anything.

Censorship. Since the 2004 Chuetsu earthquake that move is banned from begin used again in anything in anime (Just like radiation because of the Nuclear Power Plant Incident).

 

[Sigurd_Snake_in_The_Eye]

https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/AG101_(unaired)

 

[Kepekley23]

Yeah, I'm aware of that, but that's the exact reason why we shouldn't go through with it. The move is seldom used in the Pokémon media anymore, and Magnitude 10 has never been a thing outside of gameplay, be it in the manga or the anime.

 

[Mand21]

So, what are the conclusions so far?

 

[Sigurd_Snake_in_The_Eye]

Might be going down to 7-A I think.

 

[Mand21]

How about beginning to summarize all final conclusions and their arguments? Basically OP points that still stand, feats taken down and currently standing feats to make things easier.

Overall, lovely. Not wanting to be partial, but I love downgrades.

 

[The_Calaca]

You monster...

 

[The_Calaca]

BTW what will happen with Mega Evoluted Pokemon? Are they gonna get downgraded too?

 

[Kepekley23]

Yes.

 

[The_Calaca]

At least 7-A?

 

[Overlord775]

bump

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

So what's the verdict?

 

[Sigurd_Snake_in_The_Eye]

Seems to be 7-A to High 7-A

 

[Bobsican]

"> The move Earthquake is said to trigger an Earthquake and the animation for the move nowadays is more than just shaking the surface, as it creates fault lines and whatnot and you can see what appears to be lava underneath (though that orange light from underground can be a number of things)

• Reply: The animation is unreliable and is just flavored, unless you want to legitimately argue that 'mons who can use Moonlight are able to flip the Earth upside dow. Furthermore, why would we decide to cherrypick between the more recent animations and the older ones if the description of the move has not changed to accommodate?"

Moonlight doesn´t flip the Earth, but rather summon an orb that reflect light similar to the one the moon emits, as far I know, which can lead to that the animation is realiable.

 

[Overlord775]

bump

 

[DMB_1]

bump

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

So are we gonna go with the downgrades or what. This thread keeps dying meanwhile the High 6-C stats still remain.

 

[Dark649]

You can apply them if you want to.

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

The issue is, what is the exact value and from what feat?

 

[Sigurd_Snake_in_The_Eye]

What are they even going down to? 7-A to High 7-A?

 

[Dark649]

Maybe we can use this.

 

[Overlord775]

There's multiple of 6-C feats

 

[Sigurd_Snake_in_The_Eye]

Maybe we can use this.

Yeh Kep said that feat is 7-A now I think.

 

[The_Calaca]

Then... should we wait for Kep to recalc that?

 

[Mand21]

Huh, I'd sure love to see All Might take on most of the Pokémon verse.

 

[Overlord775]

bump

 

[Bobsican]

Huh, I'd sure love to see All Might take on most of the Pokémon verse.

Mid-Evolved Pokémon are fully 7-B, so I don´t think he would last too long, if we leave at a side that it´s Low 7-B, in which case he can last weeks before an Hyper Beam hits him or something.

 

[Mand21]

Is the Hyper Beam consistently of a certain power or haxxed in some way?

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

Hyper Beam is just a really powerful attack.

 

[Mand21]

Oh, so it shouldn't mean a lot. A good SMASH can probably even send it back.

 

[Bobsican]

Regardless, one thing is for sure, All Might can be blitzed even by some of the most average ones around.

They may lack a bit of AP, but their hax should do it.