- 3,711
- 2,690
Palkia's Pokedex entry pretty much confirms space is infinite. WBK but still supports the Necrozma feat
-
This forum is strictly intended to be used by members of the VS Battles wiki. Please only register if you have an autoconfirmed account there, as otherwise your registration will be rejected. If you have already registered once, do not do so again, and contact Antvasima if you encounter any problems.
For instructions regarding the exact procedure to sign up to this forum, please click here. -
We need Patreon donations for this forum to have all of its running costs financially secured.
Community members who help us out will receive badges that give them several different benefits, including the removal of all advertisements in this forum, but donations from non-members are also extremely appreciated.
Please click here for further information, or here to directly visit our Patreon donations page. -
Please click here for information about a large petition to help children in need.
"Pokémon Legends: Arceus" Discussion Thread (SPOILERS)
- Thread starter NeoZex6399
- Start date
- 3,707
- 2,720
Well, we already sort of knew this.
- 3,084
- 1,145
It still looks identical tho. So I’m not sure if we ever saw the real arceus out of its dimension. It’s likely that movie 12 and movie 18 arceus are the aspect that he sends out.
- 5,224
- 2,624
Does this make sense to any of you?
- 17,212
- 12,649
Don't know mate, it's just a theory and the game is right around the corner. Might as well just not care
- 1,558
- 345
Personally, I am VERY intrigued about Arceus transcending nothingness. Depending on at what level it transcends nothingness, it can mean anything from "Freely interact with NEP" to "Can be bumped to one of the VERY big tiers.", as far as I'm aware.
But Low 1-C is definitely starting to look likely. Or, at a bare minimum, "ridiculously above 3x baseline 2-A".
But Low 1-C is definitely starting to look likely. Or, at a bare minimum, "ridiculously above 3x baseline 2-A".
- 575
- 210
Everything so far makes ot seem like Arceus is Pokémon Yog Sothoth or Azathoth. The world exists as part of its imagination, it is a part of everything and nothing. All I need is the original Japanese to say Infinite instead of innumerable. Let's gooooo
- 5,224
- 2,624
Wait, are they accepted as above baseline besides scaling?
- 1,558
- 345
Don't think so. But AFAIK, 1 CT = 3 LT = 3 separate Baseline. Shouldn't that mean 1 CT = Baseline x3?
- 17,212
- 12,649
there was a dumb standard added that you need to prove that there is a distance between the two multiverses for it to be above baseline
- 1,558
- 345
So, multipliers between characters don't work? That's dumb.
- 4,187
- 1,484
- Thread starter
- #133
- 3,711
- 2,690
It's crazy Arceus hasn't leaked yet. Like, the boss. I really wanna see it. But I guess catching all 200+ Pokémon takes time
- 7,142
- 4,657
"What's so strange about them, you ask? Well, each and every Pokémon is able to shrink itself down to miniscule size!
And that's where Poké Balls come in! Poké Balls are a recent invention, you see. Throw one at a Pokémon, and...
why, the Pokémon will shrink down and fit inside the ball, comfy as can be. And with that, you've caught a Pokémon!"
And that's where Poké Balls come in! Poké Balls are a recent invention, you see. Throw one at a Pokémon, and...
why, the Pokémon will shrink down and fit inside the ball, comfy as can be. And with that, you've caught a Pokémon!"
- 4,187
- 1,484
- Thread starter
- #136
You need to catch them all.
- 4,187
- 1,484
- Thread starter
- #137
Size Manipulation for all pokémon :^)
- 3,711
- 2,690
Would this explain how some Pokemon can be giants as well? Or would we still write those off as special cases
- 4,187
- 1,484
- Thread starter
- #140
These are the first pokéballs, I guess the light thing is something exclusive to the pokeballs from the future (present).
- 7,142
- 4,657
"You'll recall, of course, the Pokémon possess the odd power to shrink themselves down. With the PokéBalls we craft, we can make use of the power to catch them!"
Where was the Poké Balls turning them into light this mentioned. (Keep in mind the Legends Arceus is a main series game made by Game Freak so it's Primary canon that trumps all)
Where was the Poké Balls turning them into light this mentioned. (Keep in mind the Legends Arceus is a main series game made by Game Freak so it's Primary canon that trumps all)
- 5,224
- 2,624
Yeah, we only have one(?) Of his themes and pokedex entry, no model or anything.
I like to think he is extra guarded
- 1,991
- 753
We are in the future, aren’t we? One of the leaks said Legends takes place in the future, not the past.
- 4,187
- 1,484
- Thread starter
- #144
No, Legends takes place in the past.
- 3,881
- 1,113
No we are from the future of BDSP however we were sent to the past of Sinnoh
Where we were sent back in time-->Legends Plot----->BDSP plot-->the time we are originally from
- 3,711
- 2,690
It's weird to me that Arceus says to the protag that this world they're being sent to will be unfamiliar to them and clarifies it's full of creatures humans call pokémon, as if the protag has never heard of them before.
- 5,224
- 2,624
Maybe he is talkign to the player
- 915
- 1,006
The real world is already established to exist in Let's Go
- 3,711
- 2,690
But wouldn't these protags just be avatars created by The Player and not be an actual Dawn and Lucas we've seen before then?
- 10,093
- 3,767
The Real World, as in the one where you & I are typing onto this forum from? What, where, when, who, why & how?
- 10,093
- 3,767
If they are from the future of BD/SP, & distinct from "Dawn"/"Lucas"....
How old are Lucas/Dawn in BD/SP anyway? PLA's are stated to appear to be about 15 (Exact wording may matter.), right?
So:
A. They're older, post-adventure Dawn/Lucas. (Is there any evidence of them lacking experience? Other evidence to contradict this possibility?)
B. They're older because they were born before Dawn/Lucas, & are someone unrelated, but are still from the world of Pokemon.
C. They're a created individual. Arceus magic or something?
- 3,711
- 2,690
Lol Arceus can speak to The Player therefore that's totally an established viewing reality as fiction scenario
- 10,093
- 3,767
Or they're speaking to The Player Character, rather than us. How do we know the recipient of the messages is the character being isekai'd rather than the The Real World human playing a video game?
- 1,991
- 753
Or, hear me out:
He has a Power called 4th Wall Breaking. Speaking to the player doesn’t mean you see the world as fiction, or at least not in the way that’d make you tier 1. If it did, we’d have a lot more tier 1 characters lmao
He has a Power called 4th Wall Breaking. Speaking to the player doesn’t mean you see the world as fiction, or at least not in the way that’d make you tier 1. If it did, we’d have a lot more tier 1 characters lmao
- 915
- 1,006
Let's Go opens with a human entering A TV into "the Pokemon world"
- 3,711
- 2,690
A. Apparently they have amnesia and we clearly see Arceus say that the world and creatures will be unfamiliar to them.
B. If this is the case then it's not stated anywhere in the game. They just randomly appear because of Arceus.
C. The intro would probably support this. He asks you to specify what your appearance and name is before you see the chosen option show up in his void which he then sends off. May even be implications he created a world specifically for you I'd need to check again.
- 3,711
- 2,690
No duh. I was just joking. We have other reasons anyways that can support really fiction or whatever
Though a certain verse relies on The Player canonically existing which I think is pretty bull.
- 10,093
- 3,767
This is also a possibility.
If I can be forgiven for asking, what is the exact dialogue between Arceus & the player character?
Apologies, but scans, please?
Thank you very much for this clarification & information!
I think we should pay careful attention to NPC dialogue A, in the event that other NPC Dialogue brings up the possibility that The Player Character/The Trainer/Dawn/Lucas has lost memories.
Of course, for me, that's more difficult, because I lack the means to play Pokemon Legends: Arceus.
- 915
- 1,006
It's literally the beginning of the game
- 3,711
- 2,690
Also interesting is that Arceus kinda asks you to show him what you perceive the part of himself he gives to you as, which I'm guessing is the llama god form?
I suppose this means his true form is incomprehensible to humans. Again, not necessarily new info but it's actual confirmation
I suppose this means his true form is incomprehensible to humans. Again, not necessarily new info but it's actual confirmation
Similar threads
