Pokemon Discussion Thread - Red & Blue arc

[Arceus0x]

What does this mean?

basically the {{8-B}} style things add categories to the blog and we're required not to do that so we only add it once we add the page itself

 

[Thelastmlg]

Oh, dang

 

[Artorimachi_Meteoraft]

 

[Arceus0x]

i feel as though most of these vids are fake

 

[Artorimachi_Meteoraft]

i feel as though most of these vids are fake

 

[Artorimachi_Meteoraft]

 

[theultimate5105]

i feel as though most of these vids are fake

Most are but there are actually some real ones out there

 

[Sniper670]

https://vsbattles.com/threads/profiles-listing-layered-smurf-hax.141218/

How are we going to go about this one?

 

[Le'garde273]

Idk about plates layered hax stuff but
(I remember there is dereck complaining about someone said arceus plates power like passive powernull was 13 layer in conceptual level)


but last time i check hoopa vs kratos match
There is also someone give an argument like 7 layered hoopa mind hax in conceptual level if i am not wrong

 

[Sniper670]

13 layers is an understatement

To be on the absolute safest side. Using Alakazam as an example. And putting game mechanics aside. Looking at how it works in a non game mechanics environment :

Alakazam A level 50
Alakazam B level 40

Alakazam A will roflstomp the other. Alakazam 60 stomps 50 and so on


Then comes trainer mons, who're mentioned stronger than normal mons, then comes Megas that makes Mega Alakazam go as far as seeing the course of someone's life and there lies the impossibility of detecting the accurate layers

 

[theultimate5105]

Idk about plates layered hax stuff but
(I remember there is dereck complaining about someone said arceus plates power like passive powernull was 13 layer in conceptual level)


but last time i check hoopa vs kratos match
There is also someone give an argument like 7 layered hoopa mind hax in conceptual level if i am not wrong

Yeah the scaling chain for Hoopa and Arceus is something like this (when ignoring all layers that are below the lake trio) Arceus>>Ghris’s resistence>Hoopa Unbounds Mindhax>Shadow Hoopa Unbounds Mindhax>The Creation Trio’s Resistence as a whole>>Giratinas Resistence to Mindhax>The Red Chains Mindhax>Dialga+Palkias Resistence>3 Lake Trio Members>Dialga/Palkias Resistence>2 Lake Trio Members>1 Lake Trio member

So 9 layers above baseline 4-D Conceptual Mindhax for Hoopa and 11 layers for Arceus (ignoring all layers for normal Pokemon below the lake trio)
It could also be more if you add up the number of layers of Dialga+Palkia+Giratina instead of just putting their combined resistence 1 layer above Giratina’s Resistence which would Make Arceus like 16 layers even With the baseline in this chain being The Lake Trio

 

[Sniper670]

https://vsbattles.com/threads/arceus-and-his-plate-abilities.141272/

 

[Sniper670]

Interesting

 

[Imaginym]

"Probably based on Oma forest in the Basque Country"

 

[Sniper670]

Dart Pokémon maybe?

 

[Imaginym]

Dart Pokémon maybe?

Check the content of this Tweet:

Spoiler: Spoiler because somewhat leak-related content & Twitter auto-previewing may not be entirely desirable

(Also, as far as I can tell, Oma Forest was an art project, rather than attempt at a dartboard. It'd be... interesting if GameFreak chose to conflate the two.)

 

[Bobsican]

Oh yeah, the Ghost/Grass lemur in a tumbleweed, lol

 

[Sniper670]

Khu says it has this vibe. Hype!!

 

[Imaginym]

Lol, 1 of the comments:
"That sounds like a Girafarig evolution. I hope it is ^^"

 

[Imaginym]

Spoiler: The 2nd video spoils the new Pokemon's appearance, & I expect it'll be less atmospheric than the 1st video anyway

 

[Imaginym]

Pokémon - Pokémon Scarlet and Pokémon Violet | Official Website

Meet some of the new Pokémon you'll encounter in Pokémon Scarlet and Pokémon Violet, including first partner Pokémon and Legendary Pokémon.

scarletviolet.pokemon.com

Grafaiai is a moody Pokémon with a fastidious disposition. It doesn’t form packs, preferring to roam alone. It’s constantly caught up in territorial struggles with other Pokémon.

It Sets Up Poison Traps around Its Territory​

Grafaiai is nocturnal. Once the sun sets, it licks its hands and fingers to cover them in poison, then uses them to draw patterns on the trees in its territory. The poisonous saliva it uses to paint paralyzes Bug Pokémon, which are drawn to the saliva’s sweet, fragrant scent. When dawn draws near, Grafaiai goes to collect any incapacitated prey.

When Grafaiai Senses Danger, Its Poisonous Saliva Becomes Even More Toxic​

This Pokémon specializes in using its poisonous saliva—which changes color depending on what the Pokémon eats—to attack foes by spitting at them or by slashing at them after coating its claws with the saliva. When Grafaiai senses danger, its poison rapidly becomes concentrated, resulting in a potent toxin that, once absorbed, will immobilize a victim for three whole days.

 

[Sniper670]

Heh..... The lore intrigues me more than what the gameplay (or graphics lol) has to offer

 

[Artorimachi_Meteoraft]

press f to pay respect to our digital friend.

 

[Sniper670]

F

 

[Sniper670]

Pokémon Cosmology in a nutshell

 

[Le'garde273]

Pokémon Cosmology in a nutshell

Why original spirit and arceus realm in different circular?

Wasn't it same?

Physical-meta physical (palkia+dialga - trio lake) are actual multiverse
And
Non-existence was a distortion world
(?)

 

[Le'garde273]

And maybe you can add it to cosmology explanation,
Sheena explanation about pokemon world kinda make sense to this

 

[Sniper670]

Why original spirit and arceus realm in different circular?

Wasn't it same?

It is within the Spirit that all creation resides. That realm is not home to the Original Spirit, as Original Spirit Omnipresent and encompasses everything. It's rather the home of the Pokémon Arceus.

Physical-meta physical (palkia+dialga - trio lake) are actual multiverse
And
Non-existence was a distortion world
(?)

Yeah, basically. Literally what Masuda said
Dialga/Palkia = Substance/
LT= Spirit
Distortion =Paradox/Nonexistence

 

[Sniper670]

And maybe you can add it to cosmology explanation,
Sheena explanation about pokemon world kinda make sense to this

You're right. But I don't think I'd watch that movie again. They did Llama dirty

 

[Imaginym]

press f to pay respect to our digital friend.

F

 

[Artorimachi_Meteoraft]

F

can we beat pikachu up for this.

the sneaky rat pinned all the blame on our poor pory

 

[Thelastmlg]

You're right. But I don't think I'd watch that movie again. They did Llama dirty

Is kinda funny how the same movie that limited arceus to like tier 7 or 7, also gave him tier 2 feats and helped argument for low 1-C hax.

That movie is a mess

 

[Sniper670]

I mean, that realm would've been meaningless if not for PLA.

But here's one of the SEVEREAL ways Arceus could've dealt with the meteorite.

Reddit - Dive into anything

v.redd.it

At least at the end of the day, his feats greatly outweigh his anti feats. History literally didn't proceed until he acknowledged it. I took it to P&A to figure out what abilities it grants

 

[Thelastmlg]

Sounds like a kind of automatic causality manip, is jot passive since it requires a imput but said imput is not really a direct activaction, reminds of GER rtz activacting with attacks

 

[Sniper670]

Thinking about it, won't Arceus stomp GER with this?

 

[Artorimachi_Meteoraft]

How many layers does Arceus bypass again.

 

[Sniper670]

Layers of what btw?

 

[Artorimachi_Meteoraft]

Layers of what btw?

hax/resistance negation/power nullification etc

how many resistance layers to those do you need to resist it

since it basically makes Arceus unmatchable

 

[Sniper670]

hax/resistance negation/power nullification etc

how many resistance layers to those do you need to resist it

since it basically makes Arceus unmatchable

It's all wank

Correct me if I'm wrong but don't Pokémon hax potency increases with their level? Although it's apparent in the anime

For instance, A low levelled Alakazam gets mind raped by a very high levelled one, which will surely get mind raped by Mewtwo

 

[Sniper670]

If that's the case then it's impossible to tell how many layers because Pokémon are a species and it's for sure not all their potency will be same. Meaning we'll be counting in the millions

All you have to understand is that the Plates Nopes everything. And because most haxes exist in Pokémon, it's hard to beat him I guess