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Pokemon Discussion Thread - Red & Blue arc

Idk about plates layered hax stuff but
(I remember there is dereck complaining about someone said arceus plates power like passive powernull was 13 layer in conceptual level)


but last time i check hoopa vs kratos match
There is also someone give an argument like 7 layered hoopa mind hax in conceptual level if i am not wrong
 
13 layers is an understatement

To be on the absolute safest side. Using Alakazam as an example. And putting game mechanics aside. Looking at how it works in a non game mechanics environment :

Alakazam A level 50
Alakazam B level 40

Alakazam A will roflstomp the other. Alakazam 60 stomps 50 and so on


Then comes trainer mons, who're mentioned stronger than normal mons, then comes Megas that makes Mega Alakazam go as far as seeing the course of someone's life and there lies the impossibility of detecting the accurate layers
 
Idk about plates layered hax stuff but
(I remember there is dereck complaining about someone said arceus plates power like passive powernull was 13 layer in conceptual level)


but last time i check hoopa vs kratos match
There is also someone give an argument like 7 layered hoopa mind hax in conceptual level if i am not wrong
Yeah the scaling chain for Hoopa and Arceus is something like this (when ignoring all layers that are below the lake trio) Arceus>>Ghris’s resistence>Hoopa Unbounds Mindhax>Shadow Hoopa Unbounds Mindhax>The Creation Trio’s Resistence as a whole>>Giratinas Resistence to Mindhax>The Red Chains Mindhax>Dialga+Palkias Resistence>3 Lake Trio Members>Dialga/Palkias Resistence>2 Lake Trio Members>1 Lake Trio member

So 9 layers above baseline 4-D Conceptual Mindhax for Hoopa and 11 layers for Arceus (ignoring all layers for normal Pokemon below the lake trio)
It could also be more if you add up the number of layers of Dialga+Palkia+Giratina instead of just putting their combined resistence 1 layer above Giratina’s Resistence which would Make Arceus like 16 layers even With the baseline in this chain being The Lake Trio
 
Dart Pokémon maybe?
Check the content of this Tweet:

(Also, as far as I can tell, Oma Forest was an art project, rather than attempt at a dartboard. It'd be... interesting if GameFreak chose to conflate the two.)
 


Khu says it has this vibe. Hype!!
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Grafaiai is a moody Pokémon with a fastidious disposition. It doesn’t form packs, preferring to roam alone. It’s constantly caught up in territorial struggles with other Pokémon.

It Sets Up Poison Traps around Its Territory​

Grafaiai is nocturnal. Once the sun sets, it licks its hands and fingers to cover them in poison, then uses them to draw patterns on the trees in its territory. The poisonous saliva it uses to paint paralyzes Bug Pokémon, which are drawn to the saliva’s sweet, fragrant scent. When dawn draws near, Grafaiai goes to collect any incapacitated prey.

When Grafaiai Senses Danger, Its Poisonous Saliva Becomes Even More Toxic​

This Pokémon specializes in using its poisonous saliva—which changes color depending on what the Pokémon eats—to attack foes by spitting at them or by slashing at them after coating its claws with the saliva. When Grafaiai senses danger, its poison rapidly becomes concentrated, resulting in a potent toxin that, once absorbed, will immobilize a victim for three whole days.
 
Why original spirit and arceus realm in different circular?

Wasn't it same?
It is within the Spirit that all creation resides. That realm is not home to the Original Spirit, as Original Spirit Omnipresent and encompasses everything. It's rather the home of the Pokémon Arceus.
Physical-meta physical (palkia+dialga - trio lake) are actual multiverse
And
Non-existence was a distortion world
(?)
Yeah, basically. Literally what Masuda said
Dialga/Palkia = Substance/
LT= Spirit
Distortion =Paradox/Nonexistence
 
I mean, that realm would've been meaningless if not for PLA.

But here's one of the SEVEREAL ways Arceus could've dealt with the meteorite.


At least at the end of the day, his feats greatly outweigh his anti feats. History literally didn't proceed until he acknowledged it. I took it to P&A to figure out what abilities it grants
 
Sounds like a kind of automatic causality manip, is jot passive since it requires a imput but said imput is not really a direct activaction, reminds of GER rtz activacting with attacks
 
hax/resistance negation/power nullification etc

how many resistance layers to those do you need to resist it

since it basically makes Arceus unmatchable
It's all wank

Correct me if I'm wrong but don't Pokémon hax potency increases with their level? Although it's apparent in the anime

For instance, A low levelled Alakazam gets mind raped by a very high levelled one, which will surely get mind raped by Mewtwo
 
If that's the case then it's impossible to tell how many layers because Pokémon are a species and it's for sure not all their potency will be same. Meaning we'll be counting in the millions

All you have to understand is that the Plates Nopes everything. And because most haxes exist in Pokémon, it's hard to beat him I guess
 
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