Pokemon Discussion Thread - Red & Blue arc

[Arceus0x]

I mean Kukui did get his Empoleon shot right into him in the battle

 

[Sniper670]

Hey, I was wondering.

Shouldn't we make a Plates page for Arceus ?

With all Powers and abilities and it's layers written within them. It's easier on the eyes if it's a seperate page like Keysword, Venuzdonoa, and Link's sword amongst other things

And people will stop asking "I'm not seeing this on his profile"

Also, since Pokemon has almost all abilities on the wiki people will think twice before making a match with him once they see the walls of text

 

[Sniper670]

After asking around anime subreddit

, Dragon Attacks really don't work on Fairies.

Ground attacks work on Flying types if it hits. Logic in games was that they fly so it won't hit in the first place

Ghosts types are immune to normal/fighting attacks

Didn't get no answers for Dark vs Psychic

 

[SuperKamiNappa]

Ground attacks work on Flying types if it hits. Logic in games was that they fly so it won't hit in the first place

But what about Bonemerang or Bone Club?

 

[Sniper670]

Ground attacks work on Flying types so long as they make contact. I'm not sure how they work in game but I assume the immunity still stands

 

[Thelastmlg]

Hey, I was wondering.

Shouldn't we make a Plates page for Arceus ?

With all Powers and abilities and it's layers written within them. It's easier on the eyes if it's a seperate page like Keysword, Venuzdonoa, and Link's sword amongst other things

And people will stop asking "I'm not seeing this on his profile"

Also, since Pokemon has almost all abilities on the wiki people will think twice before making a match with him once they see the walls of text

Sounds like a good idea, but would it be a weapon or verse specific power page, i know the plates are, well, PLATES,but they also act as energy sources and stuff and grant powers without swinging them and stuff

 

[Sniper670]

Sounds like a good idea, but would it be a weapon or verse specific power page, i know the plates are, well, PLATES,but they also act as energy sources and stuff and grant powers without swinging them and stuff

Well both, it's a weapon and at the same time verse specific, as it's useless to anything not a Pokémon. Either way will be fine

The relationship between Arceus and the Plates is no different from Thanos and the Infinity Gauntlet

We could use that as blueprint.And will be listed as

"Access to all the powers The Plates have........"

 

[JustANormalPerson01]

Somewhere within the multiverse where Pokémon battles are more realistic..........

Welp, considering Pokemon Legends and trainers surviving attacks from bloodlusted pokemon...

 

[Sniper670]

Welp, considering Pokemon Legends and trainers surviving attacks from bloodlusted pokemon...

From the myths, Pokémon just want to be captured........

 

[Sniper670]

Anyway, where do we make a page. I don't see any icon anywhere

 

[Thelastmlg]

Welp, considering Pokemon Legends and trainers surviving attacks from bloodlusted pokemon...

He can survive bloodlusted, but not casual ones, ez

 

[Thelastmlg]

Anyway, where do we make a page. I don't see any icon anywhere

Weird, neither can i, but if this is gor the plate page, wouldn't it be better as a blog first?

 

[Sniper670]

I don't know how to do that either

Well, I'll need help to make it anyway.

 

[Sniper670]

Arceus' Plates

vsbattles.fandom.com

Its empty rn, but I went through p&a to gather powers that I know exists in the series. If you're not sure why I listed an ability or power, let me know. I'll tell you where that came from

I'm also open to suggestions or additions in general

 

[Le'garde273]

Arceus' Plates

vsbattles.fandom.com

Its empty rn, but I went through p&a to gather powers that I know exists in the series. If you're not sure why I listed an ability or power, let me know. I'll tell you where that came from

I'm also open to suggestions or additions in general

I though it will be same tier with arceus itself, because the power of plate come from "giant" which same being with him(?)

 

[Thelastmlg]

Yeah probably, i think his dimension distorting feat could count as AP too, maybe it would be better to wait for the low 1-C hax thread to end before changing the tier.

So, where does breaking the fourth wall come from?

As for additions, stat justifications should be the easier rn, like the flame plate bringing cyrus universe back from the distortion world (i think) and the creation trio abilities coming from them.

 

[Sniper670]

Yeah probably, i think his dimension distorting feat could count as AP too, maybe it would be better to wait for the low 1-C hax thread to end before changing the tier.

That CRT is fine. It's just that the only thing Arceus will be leaving with is low 1C Ap. DT has debunked his hax

So, where does breaking the fourth wall come from?

Team Rocket stopping the narrator and giving him the script and stuff.

As for additions, stat justifications should be the easier rn, like the flame plate bringing cyrus universe back from the distortion world (i think) and the creation trio abilities coming from them.

Yeah. I'll be here if I'm struggling with the scans. But I have a rough idea where to find everything. But just in case

 

[Sniper670]

I was looking to add abstract npi as some pokemon can directly interact and feed on abstract concepts like emotions and dreams. And some are born from it

 

[theultimate5105]

Arceus' Plates

vsbattles.fandom.com

Its empty rn, but I went through p&a to gather powers that I know exists in the series. If you're not sure why I listed an ability or power, let me know. I'll tell you where that came from

I'm also open to suggestions or additions in general

You are missing Weather Manipulation (obv), Weapons Mastery (obv) and Weapons Creation (Beedrill has it as an example)
Regeneration is also Mid-High, Mid Godly overtime with Regeneration Negation at Mid-High for sure (might be at mid godly since the plates can null all of those powers)
Information manipulation is type 1
It is also missing some more stuff like Vector Manipulation (Pokemon Horizons Rockruff) and Vibration Manipulation (Machamp as an example)

 

[Thelastmlg]

That CRT is fine. It's just that the only thing Arceus will be leaving with is low 1C Ap. DT has debunked his hax

Team Rocket stopping the narrator and giving him the script and stuff.

Yeah. I'll be here if I'm struggling with the scans. But I have a rough idea where to find everything. But just in case

He hasn't replied to me yet, and kukui isn't there too due to the canon thread, so "debunked" might be too hasty.

Oh so we scaling him to their toony shenanigan? Nice.

Got it

 

[Sniper670]

You are missing Weather Manipulation (obv),

Missed that

Weapons Mastery (obv) and Weapons Creation (Beedrill has it as an example)

I couldn't think of any Pokémon with it. Thanks

Regeneration is also Mid-High, Mid Godly overtime with Regeneration Negation at Mid-High for sure (might be at mid godly since the plates can null all of those powers)

I could push for a "possibly" for mid godly yh. Arceus should be able to permanently kill anyone regardless of their regen due to plates

Information manipulation is type 1

I have a feeling Pokémon has type 2. But that's that.... Porygon and Mirage Pokémon is the closest thing

It is also missing some more stuff like Vector Manipulation (Pokemon Horizons Rockruff)

Why not homing attacks?

and Vibration Manipulation (Machamp as an example)

??? I'm not seeing it on his profile

 

[Sniper670]

He hasn't replied to me yet, and kukui isn't there too due to the canon thread, so "debunked" might be too hasty.

Well......

Oh so we scaling him to their toony shenanigan? Nice.

Yeah. It wouldn't pass for plot hax so that's fine.

 

[theultimate5105]

Missed that

I couldn't think of any Pokémon with it. Thanks

I could push for a "possibly" for mid godly yh. Arceus should be able to permanently kill anyone regardless of their regen due to plates

I have a feeling Pokémon has type 2. But that's that.... Porygon and Mirage Pokémon is the closest thing

Why not homing attacks?

??? I'm not seeing it on his profile

Shockwave generation links to it

 

[Sniper670]

Ahh, I missed that.

I'll be here often(and also in p&a evaluation), if I need help. But I think I'll be fine with sourcing them.

You think Rimuru is op? You ain't seen nothing yet

 

[Sniper670]

Nicee........

 

[Sniper670]

 

[Arceus0x]

yemma so what happened with the canon split thread? Did it go through?

 

[Sniper670]

It won't change much, since most Pokémon are scaling off Pokedex entries but trainer related stuff will be split. Besides that everything stays the same

Executor_N0 proved its a Shared Canon so Arceus and CT won't go through much change due to their multiversal status

 

[Sniper670]

Anyway I'm(roughly) done with this.

Arceus' Plates

vsbattles.fandom.com

I might take it to crt tomorrow..... depends. Need to watch Spell of Unown rn among other things.

 

[Arceus0x]

Anyway I'm(roughly) done with this.

Arceus' Plates

vsbattles.fandom.com

I might take it to crt tomorrow..... depends. Need to watch Spell of Unown rn among other things.

LS should be gone like in the chaos emeralds

 

[Sniper670]

Is there a reason for that?

I was using the Infinity Gauntlet profile to make the crt, and it has LS

 

[Arceus0x]

Is there a reason for that?

I was using the Infinity Gauntlet profile to make the crt, and it has LS

yeah cause it's a gauntlet. Use infinity stones or chaos emeralds as reference

 

[JustANormalPerson01]

Anyway I'm(roughly) done with this.

Arceus' Plates

vsbattles.fandom.com

I might take it to crt tomorrow..... depends. Need to watch Spell of Unown rn among other things.

If that is exactly what you want to be added for the wiki, I think you should fix some things, like adding links for Tiering System, AP, etc. pages
Ex:

[[Tiering System|Tier]]: At Least {{2-B}}, likely {{2-A}}

And adding spaces in some parts of the page like between the numeration of immortalities.

I think you should put the explanation about why the plates have all the powers among Pokemon (all of them being conceptual) as much at the top of the Powers and Abilities section as you can, because, well, it's the reasoning of nearly all of the abilities of the plates

Also the photo of the plates should be above the summary.

 

[Sniper670]

If that is exactly what you want to be added for the wiki, I think you should fix some things, like adding links for Tiering System, AP, etc. pages
Ex:

I'll do that

And adding spaces in some parts of the page like between the numeration of immortalities.

I'll correct that

I think you should put the explanation about why the plates have all the powers among Pokemon (all of them being conceptual) as much at the top of the Powers and Abilities section as you can, because, well, it's the reasoning of nearly all of the abilities of the plates

So much work

Also the photo of the plates should be above the summary.

I'll correct that

 

[Sniper670]

yeah cause it's a gauntlet. Use infinity stones or chaos emeralds as reference

Alright.

 

[JustANormalPerson01]

So much work

I mean, just something like Arceus' profile does:

Arceus has access to every power showcased in the Pokémon series due of its Plates being the origin of all the Pokémon powers, which would include:

 

[Sniper670]

Oh that what you meant

 

[Imaginym]

Terastallizing — Pokémon Scarlet and Pokémon Violet | Official Website

Master the Terastal Phenomenon, which changes your Pokémon's type and can turn the tables in battle!

scarletviolet.pokemon.com

"Tera Blast inflicts damage using the Attack or Sp. Atk stat—whichever is higher for the user."

Oh, how delightful.

Battle Stadium — Pokémon Scarlet and Pokémon Violet | Official Website

Battle with Pokémon Trainers from all over the world in the Battle Stadium!

scarletviolet.pokemon.com

"This feature lets you easily borrow Battle Teams by inputting IDs that have been shared online. You'll also be able to build your own Battle Team and make it available for Pokémon Trainers all over the world to use!"

If user-made teams can be provided, that might make for some interesting combinations. "Try to win with this!"

Or if there's premade teams, those might be neat, too!

Cyclizar — Pokémon Scarlet and Pokémon Violet | Official Website

Discover more about the new open-world Pokémon adventure, available now on Nintendo Switch.

scarletviolet.pokemon.com

"This Pokémon has lived in many households in the Paldea region since ancient times. It has a mild disposition, and people riding Cyclizar are a very common sight. It appears Cyclizar don't mind being ridden because the warmth of a rider helps stave off the cold."


Wut.

"Cyclizar can sprint at over 120 km/h while carrying a human. Its extremely hard head and thick, lithe tail are not only useful for maintaining balance and absorbing shocks while sprinting—they also provide effective ways to attack during battles."

& if you've seen the trailer, you already know about its signature move.

Also, WTF Vsbattles.com, why did you stop giving me notifications about posts in this thread?!

 

[Sniper670]

I mean, just something like Arceus' profile does:

I was told to remove by an admin remove tier templates so I guess I'm done

You can go through to see if anything else needs to be done, and I'll take it to crt

 

[Thelastmlg]

I was told to remove by an admin remove tier templates so I guess I'm done

What does this mean?