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Pokemon Discussion Thread - Red & Blue arc

I'm fine with at least a crt for Solrock..🤔. I don't like how the fans don't want to accept that many of these Pokémon who're mentioned to embody something in pokedex, are actually embodying the thing.😤

That is a fact the Pokémon community has unanimously decided to ignore
 
Imaginym said:
We may wish to check the original Japanese language Pokedex entry for Solrock.
Does anyone have access to scans of Solrock's Japanese Brilliant Diamond/Shining Pearl Pokedex Entry?
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The only thing I could get about it, was from this page, that said this:


たいようの ぶんしんと うわさされる しんしゅの ポケモン。

からだを かいてんさせて ひ かりを はなつ。

(『ポケットモンスターブリリアントダイヤモンド シャイニングパール』 よ り)
 
Nkiratina said:
The only thing I could get about it, was from this page, that said this:


たいようの ぶんしんと うわさされる しんしゅの ポケモン。

からだを かいてんさせて ひ かりを はなつ。

(『ポケットモンスターブリリアントダイヤモンド シャイニングパール』 よ り)
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to find pokedex entries in japanese just go here https://wiki.xn--rckteqa2e.com/wiki/ソルロック
 
it seems that the word used is 分身 which is doppelganger, clone/shadow clone, offshot, offspring. Doppelganger seems to be the most prominent use.
 
Arceus0x said:
it seems that the word used is 分身 which is doppelganger, clone/shadow clone, offshot, offspring. Doppelganger seems to be the most prominent use.
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Also I want to ask, With Pokédex entries shouldn't solrock gain at least type 1 self-Sustenance and energy absorption?

Or not :unsure: .
 
Giratina

Nonexistent Physiology(Nature Type 1, Aspect Type 1; Giratina embodies the concept of Nothingness/Nonexistence. Lacks a spirit

Void Manipulation (Giratina can materialize and de-materialize the structures in the distortion world

Acausality type 4 ( The Distortion world exists beyond the concepts of time and space. It runs on different logic or laws with distorted causality and physics than the Pokémon world. Giratina is competely unaffected by these changes. And has control over them.

Chaos Manipulation (The Distortion world is a realm of chaos. Of which Giratina has authority over, as the ruler of that place.

Immortality type 5(It's nonexisent in nature but still exists)


ARCEUS
Transduality (Type 2. It's true nature exists as the heart of chaos where all attributes are unified as The Heart. He exists in unity with the multiverse , encompassing all of it and it's attributes.

Nonexistent Physiology (Nature Type 2, Aspect Type 1, 2, 3 and 5)
Created aspects of existence whether physical or metaphysical and the concept of, Nothingness, from its undifferentiated being.

Acausality (type 5. Created, exists beyond and transcends the Pokémon reality and the Distortion world. As such he isn't bound to the logic/laws of both worlds. One of which follows normal logic and causal laws, and the other of which defies logic. Its Avatar being able to freely overturn these laws


1. Fate Manipulation via upscaling from Jirachi.

2. Illusion Creation and Madness Manipulation type 3(replace type 2 with this) via upscaling from Hisuian Zoroark.

3. Passive unconventional resistances to to stats reduction( Reversing effects of stat manip via Contrary, Reflecting the effects of stat reduction via mirror armor)
 
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Shouldn't Giratina and possibly Arceus also lose Antimatter Manip, since it's anti-reality and not antimatter?
Either that, or Giratina loses it, and Palkia gets it instead.
 
Saw this on Bulbapedia:

Arceus itself says that its true name has no equivalent in human language.

It's pretty minor but can someone tell me where they got that? Sounds oddly specific?
 
Yemma670 said:
Giratina

Nonexistent Physiology(Nature Type 1, Aspect Type 1; Giratina embodies the concept of Nothingness/Nonexistence. Lacks a spirit

Void Manipulation (Giratina can materialize and de-materialize the structures in the distortion world

Acausality type 4 ( The Distortion world exists beyond the concepts of time and space. It runs on different logic or laws with distorted causality and physics than the Pokémon world. Giratina is competely unaffected by these changes. And has control over them.

Chaos Manipulation (The Distortion world is a realm of chaos. Of which Giratina has authority over, as the ruler of that place.

Immortality type 5(It's nonexisent in nature but still exists)


ARCEUS
Transduality (Type 2. It's true nature exists as the heart of chaos where all attributes are unified as The Heart. He exists in unity with the multiverse , encompassing all of it and it's attributes.

Nonexistent Physiology (Nature Type 2, Aspect Type 1, 2, 3 and 5)
Created aspects of existence whether physical or metaphysical and the concept of, Nothingness, from its undifferentiated being.

Acausality (type 5. Created, exists beyond and transcends the Pokémon reality and the Distortion world. As such he isn't bound to the logic/laws of both worlds. One of which follows normal logic and causal laws, and the other of which defies logic. Its Avatar being able to freely overturn these laws


1. Fate Manipulation via upscaling from Jirachi.

2. Illusion Creation and Madness Manipulation type 3(replace type 2 with this) via upscaling from Hisuian Zoroark.

3. Passive unconventional resistances to to stats reduction( Reversing effects of stat manip via Contrary, Reflecting the effects of stat reduction via mirror armor)
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aight i forgot, imma need you to tell me which goes where, what is for the physical form and what is for the true form
 
Physical form of Giratina gets Aca 4, void, Chaos. True form gets NEP and Immortality type 5

Everything besides Fate, illusion hax and stats hax is for Arceus True form
 
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